Skip to comments.Is Perry Finished?
Posted on 09/23/2011 5:13:57 PM PDT by SideoutFred
Dennis thinks he might be toast based on his immigration answer last night.
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Perry turned off a lot of conservatives last night. It will be difficult to win them back. That was one of the worst performances I have ever seen in a GOP debate.
From what I have read and heard, today, yes, the Perry BUBBLE is over................except for his diehard fanatics.
He’s not toast yet.
But he will be toast when people find out Perry is for amnesty for the illegals (he would give the illegals working here “guest worker” status allowing them to live here legally).
What he needs to do is a sincere, credible flip-flop on his illegal immigration positions.
He would be more viable as a flip-flopper than as a pro-illegals candidate.
Chris Christie could change everything.
I was supporting Perry (with Palin sidelined) for the past 4 weeks. After last night, no longer.
You don’t call me “heartless” and expect my vote.
Maybe not yet....but the fat lady is warming her vocals.
What would Christie do differently?
We should never nominate anyone who acts like he is embarrassed by his base.(Close as I can recall)
We can certainly hope so after last night. Time for a CONSERVATIVE that can win to enter the race- and by that I mean Sarah, NOT Christie.
Yeppers. He lost the Tea Party concerning the illegal immigration issue. That’s a major biggie as far as his support base and it really is that simple.
This is why we need debates.
Better crashing now than in general election time.
Perry is AGAINST illegal immigration.
It is a shame he had such a lousy performance last night, but people keep mixing apple and oranges on this in state tuition thing.
Perrys position is that we are better off educating these kids than ignoring them.
He has repeatedly pointed out that it is the federal Government that is the obstacle to deportation.
He would take votes away from Romney.
Perry’s argument is irrational.
I used to think the same thing until he has had no control over his diet. I will be kind and shut up.
These aren’t debates, basically everyone agrees on the issues....all these are are an endless stream of personal attacks....all it does is tear everybody else.
Stupid for the GOP to agree to this sham.
I can hope..... no more Ringos
Not the moose limbs vote.
but they are enjoying their righteous indignation so much, you will ruin their fun. And besides, all of them are chomping at the bit to take those desirable mowing and vegetable picking and chamber maid jobs.......
Yep, I went from leaning Perry to desperating wanting Jim DeMint to run. Won’t vote for Oil Windfall Profit Tax Palin though.
Yep. Perry almost had me swayed until that statement being for illegal aliens getting in state tuition.
That is a Lib’s wet dream. Don’t need anymore of that.
I don’t think so.
He is dealing with a situation that is not entirely in his control and he is trying to make the best of it for the taxpayer at large.
I understand that it is viewed as a luring illegals.
The truth is very few people meet the admissions requirements.
“Perry turned off a lot of conservatives last night.”
Count me as one.
Not knowing Perry from Adam, I gave him 3 debates now to introduce himself to me and show me what hes got. Conclusion he has Nothing. He totally comes across as a buffoon, and the least prepared candidate on the stage. Even though he knew what questions were going to be targeted at him, his answers were horrible.
How he handled the in-state tuition question was shameless. It sounded like advice taken from the book, Rules for Radicals. When under attack accuse the attacker of something more outlandish and indefensible (even if not true), taking the spotlight off you. Accusing opponents of his policy as being heartless for not wanting children to have an education is just the sort of outlandish accusation that would make Saul Alinsky and Obama proud.
Then there was the 3 am question. How pathetic
Governor Perry, if you were president, and you go a call at 3 am telling you that Pakistan had lost control of is nuclear weapons, at the hands of the Taliban, what would be your first move?
PERRY: Well obviously, before you ever get to that point you have to build a relationship in that region. Thats one of the things that this administration has not done. Yesterday, we found out through Admiral Mullen that Haqqani has been involved with and thats the terrorist group directly associated with the Pakistani country. So to have a relationship with India, to make sure that India knows that they are an ally of the United States.
And I dont even want to think about the embarrassing Romney is a flip-flopper answer that Perry gave because it was nearly unintelligible. Went something like this, First he was against it before he was for something that he was against before, but now he is for it I actually started feeling sorry for him on that one.
The “heartless” insult did him in. As it should.
BUT, he will take Votes AWAY from other RINOs (ROMNEY).
Ignoring them? They're being ignored by their own countries.
It's a rewards program for law breakers. I'd rather offer incentives to US citizens...from other states...before offering it to the law breakers.
He comes across like a bumbling idiot. He’s toast.
To nominate the elect him when knowing exactly where he stands on the issue of benefits for illegals would be to ask for his policies on a national level.
I admit, that was as foolish as Bachmanns “as a Mom of a gaggle of children” and “innocent little girls” BS
First of all, the issue is ILLEGAL immigration, NOT immigration. Don’t fall for the liberal tactic!
Secondly, Perry lost me last night. I was really pulling for him but his view on illegal immigration is unacceptable. I am not usually a one issue person but it appears he is SO bad on the issue that as far as that goes we may as well keep obama.
I am really disappointed. Nobody is perfect but this is really bad. It would be extremely difficult for me to turn around on this. Perry would have to have a complete shifty on this and it would have to be real. And what is worse is the condescending way he answered the question about in state tuition - saying you don’t have any heart if you don’t agree with him - with friends like that who needs enemies. I can go to dem underground to get THAT crap!
One thing we have to remember, at this very moment in 2008, the two leading candidates were Fred Thompson and Huckabee. We were not even thinking McCain as a serious contender at the time. Lots yet still to happen, and front runner can come and go.
Gads thats barely intelligible.
And if Palin gets in the mix, expect the fireworks to really start going off...................
I’d made a few attempts to convey Perry’s rotten history here in Texas on the border/illegals front, having followed him all these years. It’s always been my MAJOR sticking point with him, invariably offsetting some of the ‘good’ things he has done, like tort reform and voter-id.
But even I’ve been amazed to actually see him reveal himself so vividly with comments like “the sound of their last names” and “you have no heart.” That’s some REALLY, REALLY infuriating stuff. Basically referring to anyone who disagrees with him as heartless bigots. He’s often been on a knife’s edge with me over the years, but this pretty much did it.
That’s not necessarily true. Hate his Texas stance on illegals all you want, but he has consistently been a states right guy on all issues for a long time. He has also been against Washington dictating anything for a long time.
And OUR country wont let us deport them.
And BTW, these kids did not break the law, Their PARENTS did.
I don’t like it you don’t like it Rick Perry does not like it.
Perry took a page out of the Bush/Rove/McCain/Graham playbook, which used epithets as bigots, racists, and nativists against those who opposed amnesty. These criticisms just reinforce the Democrat branding of the GOP and alienate minorities who perceive that they are not welcome in the party. Moreover, being branded as a racist political party hurts the GOP in recruiting new members, regardless of race or ethnicity. America is not a racist country and no one wants to be associated with a racist organization.
I have no doubt that should Perry win the Rep nomination, Obama will try to brand him as Dubya reincarnate.
From his garbled speech, I wondered if he was having a small stroke.
Go Christie Go Palin.... This puke is up... Romney sucks...
Jim Demint. Now *there’s* a game-changer.
What a conservative. He’s THE MAN.
I agree that he overplayed his hand with the “you have no heart” BS
I would have liked Chris Christie to get in two months ago.
But after last night I came to the conclusion that if we are going to win this thing and I have to vote for a RINO, I might as well get in with Mitt. He’s got the money and is battle tested.
I look at it this way, Romney made a major mistake on Romneycare and now disavows it. Perry meanwhile doubled down on a massive mistake on immigration.
I can’t trust either guy, but one at least claims he’s seen the light on his major problem issue.
Add in the fact that Obama would likely run rings around Perry at a debate, and I’m off the Perry bandwagon. Good to see a lot of other Freepers saw the mess I saw last night.
Props to some Texas Freepers who warned us about this back in July. I didn’t want to believe them back then.
WHAT????? Don't you know that is exactly what we want! Guest workers have no path to citizenship, they go home when there is no work, they only come in when employers can't get Americans for the jobs. Guest worker means the employer is sponsor. That's what we've been trying to get for years and amnesty crowd refused to accept it. Where on earth have you been?
Yes, it was a terrible performance, and I am sick of doing his talking for him.
If he doesn’t step it up, he IS toast.
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