Posted on 09/25/2011 8:55:08 PM PDT by Quicksilver
U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio, whom every presidential candidate would love to have as a running mate, sounds a lot like a Rick Perry supporter when it comes to the issue of tuition help for immigrants who grew up in the United States long after they were brought here illegally.
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"I think there’s general consensus behind the idea that we need to do something to help out kids who were brought here by our parents longtime ago and who have grown up in this country," Rubio said a few weeks ago, echoing comments and sentiments he made on the campaign trail last year.
“I do think that we need to figure out how we accommodate kids who have something to contribute to our nation’s future. Whether it’s serving in the armed forces or going on to college and graduated who have basically lived most of their lives (here),” he said.
"I would say the vast majority of Americans would say that doesn’t feel right," to deport or deny education help to a person in a case where "you’re going to go to college and you’re a good student and you’re valedictorian of your school or you’re going to go into the military," Rubio said. "We’ve got to figure something out. And that’s what we’re in the process of trying to do."
When Rubio was the state Legislature he supported legislation similar to one that Perry has caught flak for.
“There was a Florida bill," Rubio said. "It was pretty limited to a number of people, you had to have a certain GPA. It was very limited in scope. ... ”
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Obama wants us to believe that all Republicans are RINOs...
If a conservative candidate supports a strong military, lower taxes and less spending, limited govt, entitlement reform and is pro-life, pro-gun, pro-marriage, pro-family, pro-Constitution and opposes blanket amnesty, I can vote for that individual any day of the week.I would gladly vote for a candidate like that, or as close to that as can be had.
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Obama wants us to believe that all Republicans are RINOs...The meaning of "RINO" has been distorted to mean imperfect conservative. John McCain is smiling.
“[Americans don’t want illegals out,] I hear they just want Sarah Palin in by overwhelming numbers.”
You’ve been listening to the wrong voices in your head, then. Americans want illegals sent home first. From ABC polling: 68 percent say it is extremely important or very important to halt the flow of illegal immigrants into the country, and 67 percent say it is extremely or very important to develop a plan to deal with about 12 million illegal immigrants in the USA...Eighty percent of all respondents are very or somewhat concerned that allowing illegal immigrants to stay in the USA might encourage others to move here illegally.”
“Our immigration system is NOT broken, it’s just not been enforced. For decades. Period. Well, it is now, a little, since the WON has rocketed the number of the bad guys back to Mexico in record numbers, reportedly.”
It’s been broken since anchor babies were dreamed up by the SCOTUS. Obama doing the national version of Rick Perry, overtly coddling illegals at the federal level, is just the icing on the cake. And the American people know it’s broken. Even the Slimes admits that: “Just 8 percent of Americans said the immigration system needed only minor changes. The vast majority said it needed reworking, including 44 percent who said it needed to be completely rebuilt and 45 percent who said it needed fundamental changes.”
Since when did you get appointed to become the judge of what are Christian principles? IF your principles are for law breaking and then require US to fund health care and education for the law breakers then you are clueless about what Christ taught.
Sometimes I think we conservatives are the RINOs and the Country Club Republicans are the “Real” Republicans.
They seem to hold most of the dang cards, sometimes.
Is that like being not totally pregnant?
am·nes·ty
noun
1.a general pardon for offenses, especially political offenses, against a government, often granted before any trial or conviction.
2.Law . an act of forgiveness for past offenses, especially to a class of persons as a whole.
3.a forgetting or overlooking of any past offense.
With no fines or penalties, not deporting them IS AMNESTY!
Yeah, THAT would be nice. Funny how two years later and we STILL don't know.
Are you one of those who defends Israel...way....over...
THERE...why watching the same bias against immigrants here???? These illegals are not La Raza, and they are not able to speed dial citizenship because of all the abuse on the border, but have lived here and raised kids here and some never have even been to Mexico. There is just no quarter with some people. Don’t yak to me about how we are not brothers in humanity and try to sell that crap to me. We are, and this is not a religious discussion thread, so go away.
Those where not Perry's words.
Actually, he is very close.
These are Perry's exact words and they mean the same thing that GeronL paraphrased.
“We were clearly sending a message to young people that, regardless of what the sound of their last name is, that we believe in you,” Perry said.
Screw Rubio too.
My stand is to cost out what is needed for an individual student. Citizen students get their share/part of the public educational tax bite. Non citizen students must present a payment voucher from their native country in some form of deposit to USA Treasury or state treasury OR find some way for financing the education fee. Welfare funds cannot be used for the fees.
Hey one minute you are beating your chest about Christian principles and now you demand to demean the topic into a 'religious' discussion'.
I have NO clue what the state of Israel has to do with an illegal invasion in this nation.
I do not need a call to arms to help spit salvos in a discussion with unlearned, my way or the highway, cry babies.
No they don’t.
YES THEY DO
This is from 2010 - Seems to be a pretty big issue
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/05/12/94050/most-americans-approve-of-arizonas.html
WASHINGTON — A strong majority of Americans support Arizona’s controversial new immigration law and would back similar laws in their own states, a new McClatchy-Ipsos poll found.
Sixty-one percent of Americans — and 64 percent of registered voters — said they favored the law in a survey of 1,016 adults conducted May 6-9.
Strikingly, nearly half of Democrats like the law, under which local law enforcement officers are tasked with verifying people’s immigration status if they suspect them of being in the country illegally. While the Democratic Party generally is regarded as more sympathetic to illegal immigrants’ plights, 46 percent of Democrats said they favored the law for Arizona and 49 percent said they’d favor the law’s passage in their own states.
More than 8 in 10 Republicans and 54 percent of independents favor the law.
In addition, about 69 percent of Americans said they wouldn’t mind if police officers stopped them to ask for proof of their citizenship or legal rights to be in the country; about 29 percent would mind, considering it a violation of their rights; and about 3 percent were unsure.
They favor the law because they want them GONE!
Good post.
Yeah, THAT would be nice. Funny how two years later and we STILL don’t know.
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That’s the problem for me, it is hard to nail any of these folks down on immigration.
Santorum SURE sounds MUCH different at the debates than he did in 97, 98..oh...up until ‘bout 2006, when he he decided he wanted to be tough on immigration.
Food stamps for those poor immigrant children, oh they were legal but legal by voting on MORE work visas for skilled and unskilled
http://www.issues2000.org/SenateVote/Party_1998-141.htm
http://www.issues2000.org/SenateVote/Party_1997-111.htm
I don’t see all kinds of immigration legislation introduced by Bachmann or Paul. It seems to me if it was so important to them, they would have at least ATTEMPTED to get something going.
I had wanted a full border fence but I’m willing to trust Perry that a limited fence , major boots on the ground and aviation assets would work.(If it doesn’t work well enough, start on the fence)
Besides, that could be done pronto and that fence would take gawd forever, after all the environmental this that the other.
I suppose at this point I’m most interested in securing the border, after that, we can move onto dealing with those illegals currently here.
I think on the immigration issue, who we elect to congress and the senate will be even more important than the president.
I don’t trust any of them, they flip all over the place—at least with Perry he gave me a plan and I know where he’s at.
I don’t see how you can say that’s racist. In Texas many people have foreign-sounding names, Perry was basically saying that you won’t be investigated because of the sound of your name. It had nothing to do with those who oppose Texas’s in-state tuition law.
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