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Vanderboegh & Codrea exclusive: U.S. Gov't used an ATF employee to buy weapons with taxpayer money
Sipsey Street Irregulars ^ | 25 September, 2011 | Mike Vanderboegh & David Codrea

Posted on 09/26/2011 4:49:12 AM PDT by marktwain

A Sipsey Street Irregulars/National Gun Rights Examiner Column Exclusive: ATF Letter and Sources Confirm That There Was No "Botched Sting Operation" in Fast and Furious.

"One hundred percent us."

Official ATF documents as well as sources in Arizona and Washington D.C. confirm that in at least two instances in 2010, an agent of the United States government purchased Kalashnikov-pattern semi-automatic pistols from licensed federal firearms dealers with taxpayer money and delivered those weapons directly into the hands of cartel smugglers.

In a letter dated June 1, 2010, then Phoenix ATF Group VII supervisor David Voth instructed a Federal Firearms Licensee in Arizona as follows:

Dear Sir,

Per Section 925(a)(1) of the Gun Control Act (GCA) exempts law enforcement agencies from the transportation, shipment, receipt, or importation controls of the GCA when firearms are to be used for the official business of the agency.

Please accept this letter in lieu of completing an ATF Form 4473 for the purchase of four (4) CAI, Model Draco, 7.62x39 mm pistols, by Special Agent John Dodson. These aforementioned pistols will be used by Special Agent Dodson in furtherance of the performance of his official duties. In addition, Special Agent Dodson has not been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence. If you have any questions, you may contact me at telephone number 602-605-6501.

Sincerely,

(Signature) David Voth ATF Group Supervisor Phoenix Group VII

In the lower left-hand margin of the one-page letter is the hand-written notation:

"Picked guns up 6/10/10 Paid Cash"

"Paid Cash" is underlined.

The existence of this letter provided to these reporters by a previously reliable source familiar with the Fast and Furious investigation, coupled with interviews of other sources across the country which put it into context, provides startling proof that the Federal government did not merely "lose track" of weapons purchased by "straw buyers" under surveillance by the ATF and destined for the Mexican drug cartels. In an undercover operation ordered by Fast and Furious supervisor David Voth, the U.S. government purchased firearms with taxpayer money from licensed firearms dealers, instructed them to conduct the sales "off the books," and used an ATF agent, John Dodson, to deliver them directly to people that Dodson believed were conducting them across the border.

According one source close to the Issa committee and knowledgeable of its workings, this revelation "puts a stake in the heart of the 'botched sting operation' lie." He continued, "There never was any 'sting,' there was only a deliberate effort to provide weapons to the DTO's (Drug Trafficking Organizations)." He added, "this was one hundred percent us -- our money, our guy, our (gun)walking."

This source also provided context and explanation of how the letter came to exist in the first place.

(It should be noted that although we would never reveal our sources for any story, it is important in this case for the readers to understand where we did NOT get it. Neither John Dodson nor his lawyer provided us this letter. Nor did they pass it through to us via a third party, as the DOJ has been known to do lately.)

"Dodson was given this undercover assignment by Voth," said the source, "to purchase weapons directly and provide them to the smugglers. He was operating under cover, pretending to be a 'straw buyer.'" He continued, "I think Dodson demanded the letter from Voth to cover both himself and the FFL (Federal Firearm Licensee). He didn't want to be hung out to dry" by Voth.

A source also said that the undercover assignment was an effort by Voth to "dirty him (Dodson) up," pointing out that by the time of the undercover assignment that Dodson's vocal opposition to "letting guns walk" was well known to his superiors in the Phoenix ATF office.

Sources also describe a second letter from Voth to another FFL authorizing Dodson to purchase two more Draco pistols. One source stated flatly: "Issa and Grassley have copies of both letters, and have had for a long time."

Subsequent to this undercover weapons buying and transfer to cartel smugglers by Dodson, say the sources, "Dodson just about came apart all over them (his supervisors)." In a "screaming match" that was heard throughout the Phoenix office by many employees, Dodson yelled at Voth and Assistant Special Agent in Charge George Gillett, "Why not just go direct and empty out the (ATF) arms room?" (to the cartels), or words to that effect.

After this confrontation, say the sources, ATF managers transferred Dodson to a post as "liaison to the intel guys at FBI" in the Phoenix office. For clarification, it is worth noting that the Brian Terry murder investigation was at this time being carried out by the criminal investigations side of the FBI out of the Tuscon office, not Phoenix.

Sources describe continuing harassment of Dodson as his access to the Phoenix office building was restricted. "They removed him from the (Fast and Furious) case as politically unreliable," said another source, adding, "And of course after the Terry murder all the shots were being called by D.C."

After the death of Brian Terry, the "rumor" post on the ATF agent's website, CleanUpATF.org and the initial coverage by these reporters in the early weeks of January, 2011, "things got ugly" for Dodson. Blamed by his immediate supervisors as well as many of his fellow agents in the Phoenix office for "treason" as one source described it, Dodson's existence at the Phoenix office was described as "precarious" by one D.C. source. The threats to his life were perceived to be so great that "solitary range days" were arranged by a sympathetic supervisor so Dodson could practice marksmanship in safety. "He (the supervisor) didn't want him (Dodson) to eat one in the back" in a range "accident," said the source.

Dodson has not given any more interviews of late. "Not since the hearings as far as I know," said one source, and it is not because he hasn't been asked.

"They're (the Justice Department) coming at him hard, looking for anything they can use against him," said another. "Can you blame him for keeping his head down?"

Although our sources firmly agree that Senator Grassley and Congressman Issa have both of the Voth/Dodson letters, we are forwarding copies of the June 1, 2010 letter to staffers of both men, asking for comment on this story and an explanation as to why they have not previously released the letters.

Given the fact that it is a weekend, these reporters do not expect any reaction until later on Monday morning.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: atf; atf4criminals; atf4hezbollah; atf4murderers; atf4smugglers; banglist; batfe; batfeisajoke; corruption; democrats; dodson; fastandfurious; fraud; govtabuse; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; liberalfascism; obama; taxes; voth
We know that the FBI gave their informant money to buy weapons with, and that he bought a large number of the Fast and Furious weapons. What I find particularily nasty about these charges is the claim that they were done to "dirty up" Dodson. Ironic if they end up "dirtying up" Voth.
1 posted on 09/26/2011 4:49:18 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: MestaMachine

Gunwalker ping.


2 posted on 09/26/2011 4:50:03 AM PDT by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: marktwain

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/09/vanderboegh-codrea-exclusive-us-govt.html

http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/breaking-letter-implicates-atf-committing-straw-purchases-for-gunwalker

http://www.scribd.com/doc/66315131/Voth-Straw-Purchase-Authorization


3 posted on 09/26/2011 4:54:17 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: marktwain; Joe Brower

So much for a "sting gone wrong!"

4 posted on 09/26/2011 4:55:20 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: marktwain
"...they were done to "dirty up" Dodson. Ironic if they end up "dirtying up" Voth."

Apparently Dodson was smart enough to keep copies of all memos; good for him!

Good post, btw.

5 posted on 09/26/2011 5:02:51 AM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: marktwain; harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
As always, kudos to FReeper "marktwain" for his many postings on this and other firearms-related topics.

This story is yet another example of what you get when you have people who hate America running America.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

6 posted on 09/26/2011 5:03:42 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: marktwain

It just gets dirtier and dirtier.

It appears that half the top staff at the ATF need to be fired, and a few jailed.

We may have to go back to the Neurenberg trials where people used the excuse that they were just following orders.
Some orders cannot be followed. Squeeze these people hard enough and Obama’s name will come out as the leader of this debacle.

Still half of the country has never heard of “Gunwalker” the Media has been that good at keeping this hidden.


7 posted on 09/26/2011 5:05:42 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: marktwain

Bk.


8 posted on 09/26/2011 5:06:21 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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To: vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; Josephat; Prince of Space; ...
Good Monday morning ping. This is good one, folks!

FOR REFERENCE:

DAVID CODREA'S PROJECT GUNWALKER

A Journalist's guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part One

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Two

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Three

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Four

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Five

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Six


9 posted on 09/26/2011 5:15:18 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Wanna confuse obama? Ask him his REAL name.)
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To: abb

Thank you for the great links, abb. Lsst night and this morning.


10 posted on 09/26/2011 5:19:09 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Wanna confuse obama? Ask him his REAL name.)
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To: marktwain

marktwain...thanks for your posts.

Ping for later.


11 posted on 09/26/2011 5:22:26 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: marktwain

“We know that the FBI gave their informant money to buy weapons with, and that he bought a large number of the Fast and Furious weapons.”

If a federal agency wants firearms, why not buy them directly from the plant using a federal buyer? I assume that the cartel middleman isn’t going to demand the receipt. Why go through the effort of giving an agent “cash” and then buying them from a licensed dealer if the dealer wasn’t the focus of the activity?
If Dobson had gone to the dealer and said, “Hey, I’m a cartel buyer and I’ll give you twice the price in cash to slip me some guns,” then yes, you’ve got a case against the dealer. But giving them to a cartel middleman is ridiculous unless the stated purpose is to develop a business relationship with the middleman in the hopes he’ll lead you further up the chain. But the reason he’s the middleman is to create the separation the next level of buyer needs. The next guy up the chain isn’t an idiot. (The job self-eliminates idiots.)
Lastly, the cartels can send somebody to China or North Korea and buy whatever they want in mass quantities and have it smuggled directly to their door. Why mess around with ones and twos when you can have hundreds or thousands and hand them out the US Army armory? And, why just simple assault weapons when the Chinese and North Koreans will supply rockets, grenades, armor, RPV’s and even assault vehicles?
Let’s be generous and say the ATF/FBI/DOJ had legitimate operations going on. Okay, they’ve fallen through. So, go public and tell the taxpayers what the reasoning was, what really happened and how you’re going to clean up this mess.
BTW, what happened to the warehouses worth of seized weapons they’re always parading for the press? Why not just check some out and use them? Why spend budget when you can get them from the government for free?
Maybe what Congress needs is to insist the ATF/FBI/DOJ come to an intelligence briefing and present a business plan. “This is the purpose. This is what we’re going to invest. This is the return we expect on that investment.”
The impression I have is a high level appointee gets an idea and develops unrealistic plans in a vacuum and then hands them down for subordinates to implement.


12 posted on 09/26/2011 5:24:19 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Venturer
Still half of the country has never heard of “Gunwalker” the Media has been that good at keeping this hidden.

I suspect it may be more than half. Doing a Google search on Gunwalker and looking at the first three pages of results, CBS news is the only "mainstream" news source listed. All the others are bloggers.

13 posted on 09/26/2011 5:34:15 AM PDT by upchuck (Rerun: Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: marktwain

The link did not seem to work. Here is the link I searched and found.

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/09/vanderboegh-codrea-exclusive-us-govt.html


14 posted on 09/26/2011 5:37:07 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: marktwain

I’m curious about the money...Surely the ATF wouldn’t want to deal with a record of unsourced money showing up in their bank account...What happened to the money the Cartels paid for these weapons??? Maybe back into petty cash??? Or were the weapons gifts???


15 posted on 09/26/2011 6:20:56 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Iscool

Good point about the money.


16 posted on 09/26/2011 6:36:43 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Gen.Blather

You shouldn’t be generous. It’s obvious that wasn’t what happened.


17 posted on 09/26/2011 6:38:20 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Joe Brower
...asking for comment on this story and an explanation as to why they have not previously released the letters.
I would like to know why they haven't released them as well.
Are they "giving them rope" so they can hang themselves with their own lies?
18 posted on 09/26/2011 6:47:59 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: little jeremiah

I didn’t know if someone had discussed it before and I had missed it...Maybe someone’s heard something...


19 posted on 09/26/2011 6:52:40 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Iscool

Issa and Grassley and crew need to be pitbulls on this with locked jaws.


20 posted on 09/26/2011 6:58:22 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/gunrunner.htm


21 posted on 09/26/2011 7:44:23 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Venturer

I’m not sure about the logistics of doing so, but I think I will start an ongoing thread counting the days until Drudge posts this info. He’s had, what?, a total of two quickly pulled F&F links since this all began. I’ve sent a few links his way, but they never appeared.

I expect it of the rest of the media, but not Drudge. I guess I don’t know his motives very well.

Or maybe an ongoing thread about the media silence in general, and the silence of the GOP and the presidential candidates. The opportunities to start getting the news of this treason out before the public eye to keep it alive and growing are endless, and the opportunities are missed each time. It’s hard to believe it is not by design.

I don’t have the opportunity to spend much time each day researching media wide to see what’s being said where, but I can at least focus on Drudge once a day.

Anyone think this might have an effect on the young lad, or am I just wasting my time?


22 posted on 09/26/2011 7:46:23 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: dagogo redux

Keep up the good work.


23 posted on 09/26/2011 8:19:22 AM PDT by mickie (my grandson is in Marine boot camp)
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To: Redbob; marktwain

...Been following this on Nachums list but, MT deserves credit for his finds also. Great stuff guys...


24 posted on 09/26/2011 9:02:42 AM PDT by gargoyle (...This looks like a good fight, deal me in...)
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To: dagogo redux

You did bring up one interesting fact.

Why are the candidates not using this.

Haven’t heard a word about it from any of them.

This is greater than Watergate ever thought of being and goes to the top yet it is ignored.


25 posted on 09/26/2011 9:35:46 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: marktwain; All
I would recommend to all FReepers who have a vested interest in gun civil rights: Please go to Sipsey Street Irregulars and give Mike Vanderbough $5 or $10 or any amount via his PayPal donation button (it takes all major credit cards if you don't have a PayPal account. You can also PayPal him at GeorgeMason1776 (at) aol (dot) com.

According to Mike, his wife had to borrow money to get gas to pick him up in another city after the airline fouled up the connecting flight home. Mike was returning from a trip in which he and David Codrea received a SMOKING GUN letter that PROVES that the ATF was buying guns with cash (no 4473) specifically to send to Mexico! This is a felony violation of the ITAR.

To paraphrase Lincoln: "We cannot spare this man. He fights." Give Mike a fighting chance. This good man needs your help. And yes, I give to him regularly.

26 posted on 09/26/2011 10:07:49 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: backwoods-engineer

“No Botched Sting” Bump!


27 posted on 09/26/2011 3:22:11 PM PDT by Palladin (Cain/Perry 2012 ?)
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To: marktwain
"They're (the Justice Department) coming at him hard, looking for anything they can use against him," said another. "Can you blame him for keeping his head down?"

There it is, folks, the thuggery just doesn't quit.

Whistleblower law?

Why follow that when they won't follow the very laws they are supposed to be enforcing?

With few exceptions, the Agency has gone rogue and should be shut down by whatever means necessary.

28 posted on 09/26/2011 3:32:53 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: philman_36
Are they "giving them rope" so they can hang themselves with their own lies? Get the underlings trapped in a question of testifying versus taking the rap, and watch the house of cards fold up. Use their own records and communications against them, but don't tell them what you do know, and you'll find out more in the long run. It's like asking your five year old why they think they are in trouble. You might learn a litte more than you knew.
29 posted on 09/26/2011 3:39:31 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Bookmark for later action. Thanks for posting.


30 posted on 09/27/2011 12:30:10 PM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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