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Cain Perry or Palin: Where do Conservatives go?
The Every Day Conservative ^ | September 26, 2011 | RB Miller

Posted on 09/26/2011 12:43:52 PM PDT by rbmillerjr

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Cain Perry or Palin: Where do Conservatives go?

Assuming that Romney is rejected by ideological conservatives, except for a last resort stable fall back, conservatives will be making a huge decision and will start solidifying their support behind Cain, Perry or Palin.

This vacuum will be filled soon. Within the next couple of months. The "four more of Obama" fear is opening up the space and despite recent scientific data which challenges Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity, the law of Election Physics will speed up the process. Conservative Republicans know they have Obama (Jimmy Carter II) on the ropes and they are not messing around.

Cain: Cain has momentum coming out of his excellent debate performance, with the multiplier of Perry's meltdown. The key here is that Cain's people will have to adjust quickly and transition to Conservative Front Runner status. They have captured the attention of conservatives and now must parlay that by keeping that attention and building upon it. Galvanizing the grass roots will be the easy part, but they must request that vocally and publicly on a national basis. Garnering conservative's attention will not be enough.

The harder test will be one of Logistics. The Cain Campaign will have to go national, transitioning to organize nationally, while focusing on key states strategic to his winning. His "Business Man Protest" campaign will have to flesh out a staff to handle national organizing, financing and includes garnering local and state level politicians and fundraisers to come out and endorse Herman Cain. He needs Commitment. Kinetically moving from Trending and Momentum to front runner status will not be easy. The businessman will need to take a serious look at his staff and bring in more people. Expect huge gains in the next national Poll later this week.

Perry: Perry is an interesting case. His lackluster debate performances have imploded with a dreadful Florida Debate last week. Normally, it wouldn't be that big of a deal, but this is not a normal year. He is losing air fast. He is a victim of his early success, with his bubble taking off with a positive explosion over Establishment candidate Mitt Romney. Now, a few bad debates later, his rhetorical stumbling has conservatives pulling back on strong support. Gov. Perry will need to earn those voters back.

Perry's staff is used to winning elections but should not be complacent. This bubble burst is for real. Conservatives instinctively realize that a poor debate or debate error will give the media the opportunity to run with the "he's not competent" story, they want to tell, in the liberal media's blatant support of Barrack Obama.

Perry will have to slow down the financing efforts and practice debating. It matters. In addition, he needs to do a better job of explaining his "children of illegals" empathy and policy. Most Republicans believe that Perry is making direct subsidies to illegals. He also needs to do a reset on his Border Security policies and come out with a modified "building the fence" initiative. Expect huge losses in the next national Poll later this week, potentially shocking losses of support.

Palin: Palin still has strong currency among base conservatives and Tea Party activists. Don't believe the spin about her negatives and GOP voters not wanting her to run etc. It's way to early to expect acceptance and most people have no idea where she stands on policy issues. Yet, her policies run right in line with the majority of Americans' viewpoint, excepting the liberal media and the uber Liberals.

Palin will have the same obstacles of Logistics that Cain has as stated above. However Gov. Palin has more national support lined up waiting to go and has the ability to take the air out of Cain's momentum at the drop of her announcement. It's all about the announcement or no announcement for Sarah Palin. Interestingly, just a few months ago pundits were saying it was too late for her now. Currently, pundits are advising that she can wait even longer. I would posit that those who want her to wait past the Florida deadline for registering for the Primary, are either miscalculating or don't have Palin's interest at heart. Expect Palin to get in the race the last week of October or expect her to not run.


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Analysis on where conservatives may go. Cain, Palin and Perry are discussed.
1 posted on 09/26/2011 12:44:00 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: rbmillerjr

Cain


2 posted on 09/26/2011 12:46:15 PM PDT by Turtlepower
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To: rbmillerjr

Perry is in trouble because he demonstrated himself to be not all that much different the Romney. Rather then be an actual Conservative leader, Perry has exposed himself as yet another Establishment empty suit, say anything political pander and crony capitalist.


3 posted on 09/26/2011 12:47:24 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: rbmillerjr
Bachmann and Santorum are perfectly acceptable as well.

IMO Perry is not.

4 posted on 09/26/2011 12:48:54 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: rbmillerjr

She’s ineluctable.


5 posted on 09/26/2011 12:50:48 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: rbmillerjr

Herman is the best choice, and he is an actual candidate.


6 posted on 09/26/2011 12:51:20 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: skeeter

True enough. People are making a mistake in counting Bachmann out and Santorum wouldn’t cause me a great deal of pain voting for him.


7 posted on 09/26/2011 12:51:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: rbmillerjr

I like Cain but I prefer the Tina Fey look-a-like....

JMO....


8 posted on 09/26/2011 12:51:50 PM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: MNJohnnie

I see you’ve found yet another thread to talk up Perry. /s


9 posted on 09/26/2011 12:52:00 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: rbmillerjr

I’m not sure I trust Perry. I know I don’t trust Romney. Cain seems like a decent person and seems authentically American - self-reliant, concerned about individual rights. And unless Sarah declares, there’s no reason to discuss her here.


10 posted on 09/26/2011 12:52:52 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: MNJohnnie

And quite frankly endorsements like the one Perry received today from southern agriculture commissioners are helpful. If you look at the wording of the statements the “tools and resources” fits into the RINO narrative of more illegal labor and farm subsidies. Not the direction we need to go as a nation.


11 posted on 09/26/2011 12:53:09 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: newzjunkey
I'm sorry you find the truth so disturbing.

Perhaps you might want to reconsider you emotion based attachment to Perry rather then objecting to the truth being spoken.

12 posted on 09/26/2011 12:54:39 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie

Perry has my vote if he is the nominee. Perhaps not my enthusiasm but at least my vote. Romney will not get my vote. I will write in Palin before I cast a vote for that big-government ObamaCare-loving RINO from Massachusetts. I don’t see any comparison at all between the two.


13 posted on 09/26/2011 12:54:46 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: rbmillerjr
Where do Conservatives go?

I'm thinking we might not want to ask Maxine.

14 posted on 09/26/2011 12:54:55 PM PDT by newheart (When does policy become treason?)
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To: rbmillerjr

I have to admit that Sarah’s ‘wait and see’ strategy is looking better every day. If she jumps in now she will face the rapidly fading Bachmann, a highly damaged Perry and a Cain who is an unknown to half the population.

Now that’s a way more favorable circumstance than she would have been faced with if she had entered the race earlier. Plus she has missed 3 debates where it is certain that she would have shared that Pinata with Perry.


15 posted on 09/26/2011 12:54:55 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: rbmillerjr

Well the title is a lie. Only two candidates are conservative on the list. Palin and Cain. I love this question that NO ONE will answer..... Perry has been bashing Obama on immigration like Obama bashes Bush over economy....the two of them are awfully similar. Blame others. Also I find it hilarious how Perry complains about Obama not doing anything for immigration but he has been gov for 11 years.....not a peep about immigration the other 9 years he has been in office. That is VERY telling.


16 posted on 09/26/2011 12:54:55 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
She’s ineluctable.

and everyone knows it!!!

http://www.humanevents.com/images/coulterpalin.jpg


17 posted on 09/26/2011 12:55:10 PM PDT by KC_Lion (If Sarah can't be elected in 2012, then Phase II will fall into place, may G-D have mercy on us all)
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To: rbmillerjr

Bachmann?

Look, Perry is a good man, he just has screwed up on the immigration issue.

He has to change his policies.

Palin isn’t in the race.

Cain is a good conservative man. He could conceivably take the race issue away from Hussein the fascist.


18 posted on 09/26/2011 12:55:27 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: rbmillerjr

I’ve always pretty much agreed with Cain never gave him much chance to break though the crowd. He is now in the spotlight, and that’s a credit to his ability to live and speak his basic principles, and his ability to articulate them (hmmm...he’s starting to remind me of Reagan).


19 posted on 09/26/2011 12:56:43 PM PDT by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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To: skeeter

“Bachmann and Santorum are perfectly acceptable as well.”

They are acceptable due to their conservative ideology. But, I think the Cain, Palin, and Perry are the three with the best chance of gaining the nomination at this point.

Things could change in time, but Bachmann’s campaign is in bigger free fall than Perry. Santorum, is doing better and I enjoy listening to him talk about foreign policy.

But, Cain has the breakout momentum right now.


20 posted on 09/26/2011 12:56:43 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Beware of PaulBots tearing down good conservatives - they are deceptive weasels.)
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To: rbmillerjr
Palin is not a candidate.

Cain is brilliant but has no public record to evaluate.

Perry seems incapable of articulating.

Romney wins. Obama wins. Everyone loses.

21 posted on 09/26/2011 12:57:30 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: rbmillerjr

Perry/Romney 2012! If children of Illegal’s ever needed US healthcare it is now! Have a heart.


22 posted on 09/26/2011 12:58:51 PM PDT by Leep
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To: Crucial

“And unless Sarah declares, there’s no reason to discuss her here.”

You’ve got to be kidding. Whether you like Palin or not, she has to be considered in the dynamic of a GOP Primary.


23 posted on 09/26/2011 12:59:43 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Beware of PaulBots tearing down good conservatives - they are deceptive weasels.)
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To: Retired Greyhound

I’m leaning toward Cain right now. If Palin gets in, that changes. I’m leaving the option open given that Reagan didn’t jump in until November.


24 posted on 09/26/2011 12:59:59 PM PDT by JaguarXKE
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To: Pollster1
Agreed, I will vote for Paul before I vote for Romney.

But we must do better then Perry. Like it or not a lot of independent voters watch the Oct 2012 debates to decide who to support. We got to have a candidate who can at least hold his own in those. The Presidential debates are a stacked deck in favor of the Democrat. If Perry cannot do better then this in the Primary, he is going to fold like a cheap suit in the General.

25 posted on 09/26/2011 1:01:13 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Leep

“Perry/Romney 2012! If children of Illegal’s ever needed US healthcare it is now! Have a heart.”

LMAO funny


26 posted on 09/26/2011 1:04:22 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Beware of PaulBots tearing down good conservatives - they are deceptive weasels.)
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To: MNJohnnie

sorry, “endorsements are NOT helpful”


27 posted on 09/26/2011 1:04:59 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: rbmillerjr

To me it’s the jobs, stupid. I’m up for grabs to be taken by the one who has the most specific plan to put the 25+ million un/underemployed back to earning money, paying taxes and buying things. That’s what conservative to me.


28 posted on 09/26/2011 1:07:51 PM PDT by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: rbmillerjr

Palin/Cain

The lack of enough government experience puts Cain number two in my mind, but that isn’t a bad thing.


29 posted on 09/26/2011 1:11:44 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: rbmillerjr
Cain or Palin, if she gets her butt in the race. Perry is no conservative.
30 posted on 09/26/2011 1:13:33 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: Crucial

[And unless Sarah declares, there’s no reason to discuss her here.]

And how does not discussing the elephant in the room work out for you?


31 posted on 09/26/2011 1:13:42 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

;)


32 posted on 09/26/2011 1:17:17 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: rbmillerjr
I'm considering Sarah Palin de facto president right now or look for conservatism to go underground once again until..............

Now is the time

33 posted on 09/26/2011 1:28:07 PM PDT by Clay+Iron_Times (Time to make a stand, Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Retired Greyhound

1. Cain
2. Palin
3. Perry


34 posted on 09/26/2011 1:29:48 PM PDT by refermech
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To: rbmillerjr

I’ll take any damn one of em, I don’t particularly care who. Cain would be great.


35 posted on 09/26/2011 1:30:03 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Cain = Maturity - Dignity - Respect - Business Experience - Math Degree - No Negatives - Outsider Experience -

Palin = Media feeding Frenzy and already indep negatives.


36 posted on 09/26/2011 1:31:41 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who won’t leave.)
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To: skeeter

Cain = Maturity - Dignity - Respect - Business Experience - Math Degree - No Negatives - Outsider Experience -

Palin = Media feeding Frenzy and already indep negatives.


37 posted on 09/26/2011 1:33:07 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who won’t leave.)
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To: napscoordinator
Blame others. Also I find it hilarious how Perry complains about Obama not doing anything for immigration but he has been gov for 11 years.....not a peep about immigration the other 9 years he has been in office. That is VERY telling.

What is most telling is your complete ignorance on whose responsibility w it is to control the nation's borders.

Clue to clueless: It ain't the Governors' responsibility...but TX has spent $400 million over the past few years...doing Obama's job he refuses to do!!!

38 posted on 09/26/2011 1:38:23 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: rbmillerjr

I like Cain but would go with Perry over Romney if it came to that.


39 posted on 09/26/2011 1:41:41 PM PDT by rob777
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To: rbmillerjr

Cain or Perry. Palin is unelectable.


40 posted on 09/26/2011 1:46:15 PM PDT by pgkdan (Perry/Cain 2012)
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To: rbmillerjr

Palin/Cain 2012


41 posted on 09/26/2011 2:03:17 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Barry gives them $535 million and they take "the fifth" when asked where it went.)
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To: lonestar

Clue to clueless: It ain’t the Governors’ responsibility.

You twit. Jan Brewer is a Governor and has done more for her state than Perry could dream about. Go take your Radical Perry support somewhere else. It is not impressing me one bit.


42 posted on 09/26/2011 2:44:59 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: rbmillerjr

I can support any of the three but what I care about is which one can dethrone Obama. That must be Priority One.


43 posted on 09/26/2011 2:45:38 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: napscoordinator
It is not impressing me one bit.

Booooo! Hooooo! I so wanted to impress you!

AZ problems are different than Texas...apples to oranges.

What is it that is so hard for you to admit it is the feds place...Not Brewer's or Perry's!

The feds are so helpful they're suing AZ & Brewer.

44 posted on 09/26/2011 2:58:42 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

Boo Hoo back. He has been Governor for 10 years and only two with Obama. He didn’t hear him complaining about President Bush......doesn’t that make you question his motives??????? YES IT DOES. You better explain this one big time because you are on the short end of the stick of my proof.


45 posted on 09/26/2011 3:01:15 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: rbmillerjr
Expect Palin to get in the race the last week of October or expect her to not run.

Very astute observation bordering on clairvoyance ;-)

46 posted on 09/26/2011 3:09:25 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the Constitution, always. Allegiance to a party, never!)
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To: rbmillerjr

Cain is the only reasonable choice.

Perry shot himself in the foot last week and lost a lot of support and I will be very shocked if Palin runs at all (I don’t see it happening).


47 posted on 09/26/2011 3:09:35 PM PDT by reaganaut (Rick Perry says I'm heartless.)
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To: Crucial
And unless Sarah declares, there’s no reason to discuss her here.

Your right, let's just show pics!


48 posted on 09/26/2011 3:43:43 PM PDT by bigjoesaddle (The point ALWAYS forgotten is... If THEY surrender, we stop fighting, if WE surrender, they kill us!)
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To: napscoordinator

Go read up on who protects the borders!


49 posted on 09/26/2011 4:09:50 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: LZ_Bayonet

He is now in the spotlight, and that’s a credit to his ability to live and speak his basic principles, and his ability to articulate them (hmmm...he’s starting to remind me of Reagan).

- - - - -
I thought the same thing. Give him a chance and he will blow you away!


50 posted on 09/26/2011 4:27:58 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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