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Ron Paul Condemns Killing of al Qaeda’s Awlaki
WashingtonWire blog on WSJ ^ | September 30, 2011, 11:00 AM ET | Elizabeth Williamson

Posted on 09/30/2011 10:12:21 AM PDT by ¢ommon ¢ents

GOFFSTOWN, N.H.–Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul condemned the U.S.-backed killing of al Qaeda figure and U.S. citizen Anwar al-Awlaki.


Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul greets guests at a house party Thursday, Sept. 29, 2011 in Derry, N.H. (AP Photo/Jim Cole)

“Nobody knows if he ever killed anybody,” Mr. Paul said after a breakfast at Saint Anselm College’s New Hampshire Institute of Politics. “If the American people accept this blindly and casually…I think that’s sad.”

Mr. Awlaki, accused by the U.S. of planning al Qaeda attacks on U.S. citizens and recruiting terrorists, has been a longtime target of the U.S.

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I'm not sure I agree with him on this. When I see his comments on foreign policy and terrorism, I understand why his detractors call him "Wrong Paul."

Of course, maybe we should have captured this guy, sent hi to club Gitmo and found out what he was planning. Using a drone airstrike doesn't do much for intelligence gathering.

1 posted on 09/30/2011 10:12:25 AM PDT by ¢ommon ¢ents
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents

There’s a straight jacket somewhere waiting for that nut.


2 posted on 09/30/2011 10:16:07 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents

“Nobody knows if he ever killed anybody,”

...always good to wait until after his dirty bombs or whatever are detonated. Count the casualties THEN go after him and charge him for each individual casualty. ~sarc


3 posted on 09/30/2011 10:16:12 AM PDT by albie
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents

Idiot should be asked what he would have suggested. Send some troops into harms way to read him Miranda?

Ron Paul is basically a leftist without the gun grabbing.


4 posted on 09/30/2011 10:16:23 AM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents

Nobel Peace Prize winnner Obama okay’s killing of perhaps innocent man.

Ron Paul


5 posted on 09/30/2011 10:16:59 AM PDT by sappy
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents
"Using a drone airstrike doesn't do much for intelligence gathering."

oops ... equipment malfunction ... sorry, chief.

6 posted on 09/30/2011 10:17:32 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Proud2BeRight

You’re right, and it can’t be soon enough.


7 posted on 09/30/2011 10:19:03 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Bad laws are the worst sort of tyranny. " Edmund Burke)
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents

Ron sounds like one of those liberals who believe that criminals should be given a “fair” shot at committing their crimes, in this case, kill a bunch of Americans, before anything is done to stop them. It’s an aCLU thing. I believe just the opposite. Get them before they get you. It’s a military thing.


8 posted on 09/30/2011 10:19:37 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Too much "education" can destroy your brain.)
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents

I guess had he been killed at the behest of a letter of Marque it would have been more acceptable?


9 posted on 09/30/2011 10:20:35 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents

Every al Qaeda person should be terminated, IMHO.


10 posted on 09/30/2011 10:21:21 AM PDT by ransacked
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents
"Ron Paul is condemning the Obama administration for killing an American born al-Qaida operative without a trial."

Yes killing terrorists with out a trial is a bad thing. -eyeroll- This is why he is unfit to serve.

11 posted on 09/30/2011 10:21:51 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (0 - 537 They ALL must go.)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

[ Ron Paul is basically a leftist without the gun grabbing. ]

No, he is a Libertine who is living in a land of theoreticals far far isolated from the reality of reality.

Idealy if the world was “perfect” Ron Paul’s policies would work quite nicely, but the world is far from perfect.


12 posted on 09/30/2011 10:23:19 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents
R. Paul's a nut pure and simple.

Even if we could afford the human capital risked in capturing him, we no longer have the latitude to use the tools necessary to tap into the available intelligence from this subject (in English, read no torture or waterboarding; he wouldn't have told us a damned thing).
Besides, we would have been stuck with the idiot forever. The ACLU would have devoted all its vast resources to protect his civil rights.
After all, he was an American citizen as the media have told us...and TOLD US...and TOLD US!

13 posted on 09/30/2011 10:26:06 AM PDT by stormhill
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents
I think he is our Jimmy Carter. This guy is a total Whack job. Unstable, crazy, mentally ill, off the deep end, nuts, etc. I just can't understand how any of you support this idiot. He has a few good constitutional positions, but his crazy ideas just make him unacceptable. He makes Dennis Kucinich look sane.
14 posted on 09/30/2011 10:26:06 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents

I hope he died slowly and in great pain!


15 posted on 09/30/2011 10:28:02 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: GraceG

How is that different from a leftist.


16 posted on 09/30/2011 10:28:50 AM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents

no bump.


17 posted on 09/30/2011 10:29:19 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents

Paul is incredibly wrong


18 posted on 09/30/2011 10:34:52 AM PDT by therightliveswithus
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents

How can you be ‘not sure’? Paul is wrong - period.


19 posted on 09/30/2011 10:41:03 AM PDT by svcw (Those who are easily shocked... should be shocked more often. - Mae West)
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To: therightliveswithus

You either adhere to the Constitution or you don’t. Make your choice.

“No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”


20 posted on 09/30/2011 10:43:33 AM PDT by fretzer
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To: fretzer

Not applicable. Like a pirate, he at war with all of civilized mankind, and may be killed out of hand by anyone who can reach him.


21 posted on 09/30/2011 10:48:08 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Little Ray

BS. He was a US citizen.


22 posted on 09/30/2011 10:49:22 AM PDT by fretzer
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents

Good grief, go away Ron Paul. Get out of the Republican party and go run as the loopy libertarian you are. Enough already, Paul needs to just GO away and take his conspiracy nut truther brigades with him.


23 posted on 09/30/2011 10:54:20 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents
“Nobody knows if he ever killed anybody,”

And... everybody now knows he won't in the future.

Actually, it's an idiotic argument. Do our troops in wartime EVER know whether the specific enemy soldier they're targeting has killed anyone? No. Leave it to Wrong Paul to side with the ACLU.

Had Awlaki been captured and sent to GITMO, he'd have become a cause celebre... another Mumia. There's enough on him to warrant the kill. Score one for the good guys.

He was filth... and he's now dead. Get over it, Wrong.

24 posted on 09/30/2011 10:59:37 AM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents
How does this whack job poll above .001%?

He is one huge embarrassment to the Republican Party. Good grief, I wish he would just go away.

25 posted on 09/30/2011 11:00:48 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: fretzer
You either adhere to the Constitution or you don’t. Make your choice.

Exactly. There are some folks here who are opposed to the tyranny of the left but are quite comfortable imposing their own forms of tyranny.

26 posted on 09/30/2011 11:01:18 AM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: Longbow1969

I heard some pundit recently liken Wrong Paul to an annoying, loud guy in a bar. You can’t get far enough away from him and he just keeps blathering on.


27 posted on 09/30/2011 11:01:18 AM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents

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28 posted on 09/30/2011 11:01:28 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents

**** ron paul.

LLS


29 posted on 09/30/2011 11:02:21 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Is the person that you support a Crony Capitalist... A.K.A. CRAPITALIST?)
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To: Little Ray
What the heck are we arguing about? There has been no constitutional violation here!

...except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger...

The fool was killed in the battlefield, period.
Don't want to die? Don't go up against America

30 posted on 09/30/2011 11:02:21 AM PDT by stormhill
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To: fretzer

Si were the Rosenbergs!


31 posted on 09/30/2011 11:03:25 AM PDT by navyblue (<u>)
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents

Well... we can just say we attacked the other members of his convoy and Awlaki was at the “wrong place at the wrong time.”

Collateral damage... it’s not like we’re talking about a human.


32 posted on 09/30/2011 11:05:51 AM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: navyblue

Si = So


33 posted on 09/30/2011 11:06:47 AM PDT by navyblue (<u>)
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To: navyblue
Yes, and the Rosenbergs were arrested, tried, convicted and executed. No problem. Case closed.
34 posted on 09/30/2011 11:06:53 AM PDT by fretzer
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To: stormhill

I think we arguing about just how bloody insane Ron Paul and his Libertines are.


35 posted on 09/30/2011 11:08:58 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: stormhill

Read the entire amendment.

“... nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.”

You are sounding just like a lefty hoplophobe picking apart the Second Amendment.


36 posted on 09/30/2011 11:11:09 AM PDT by fretzer
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents

I used to say “Ron Paul is a NUT!” But this latest statement proves “Ron Paul is a raving lunatic!”


37 posted on 09/30/2011 11:12:07 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil and from those perpetuating it, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: Little Ray

The science on that is settled


38 posted on 09/30/2011 11:13:51 AM PDT by stormhill
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To: fretzer

In a hot pursuit situation, due process of law mostly involves making sure you don’t miss


39 posted on 09/30/2011 11:16:07 AM PDT by stormhill
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To: albie
“Nobody knows if he ever killed anybody,”

Right Ron. And that is why we never actually kill anybody on the battlefield. I mean how do we know it that guy I am about to shoot has ever killed anybody. Heck, he may have been a really lousy shot and never hit anyone. So we always just take prisoners and never really kill anyone.

Ron Paul is an idiot.

40 posted on 09/30/2011 11:22:44 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: fretzer

I don’t have much use for Ron Paul, but I find it distressing how many FReepers are OK with this killing of a US citizen without due process.


41 posted on 09/30/2011 11:25:28 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I like both Perry and Palin, and will vote for whichever of them wins.)
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents

You’re not sure that the federal government can kill any American citizen who has not even been charged in a court?!


42 posted on 09/30/2011 11:28:42 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Cyber Liberty

Listen CL, that a-hole was about as American as OBL! Being born here should not be the only criteria for citizenship. We should abolish that rule. There is more to American citizenship than just happening to have been born somewhere called American territory. This man was an enemy of the U.S., simple as that.


43 posted on 09/30/2011 11:38:30 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: fretzer
You either adhere to the Constitution or you don’t. Make your choice.

The Constitution doesn't come into it. We aren't accusing him of a crime, he has no Constitution rights. We're making war on him and his ilk. Why are we making war on him and his ilk? Because they're making war on us.

Paultards think the proper way of handling the Pearl Harbor attack was to issue indictments on persons unknown making dive bombing, torpedo attacks and strafing runs on American warships and servicemen. Then, capturing some of them b through some unknown method that doesn't compromise their Constitution rights, use convictions against the "trigger-men" and plea bargains to work your way up to "Mr. Big". Yeah, that'd work.

Ron Paul and the Paultards should make the choice: sanity or insanity. So far Ron himself seems to be going with insanity.

44 posted on 09/30/2011 11:56:42 AM PDT by Cheburashka (If life hands you lemons, government regulations will prevent you from making lemonade.)
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents

Drone-mail. Citizenship revoked.


45 posted on 09/30/2011 11:57:12 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: mc5cents

>Listen CL, that a-hole was about as American as OBL!

Perhaps, but the fact remains that OBL was a Saudi, this guy
was a US Citizen.

>Being born here should not be the only criteria for
>citizenship. We should abolish that rule. There is
>more to American citizenship than just happening to
>have been born somewhere called American territory.

Then amend the Constitution. In the mean time, it remains
the law of the land in its current state and was written by
minds much greater than yours or mine with the intent of
protecting its citizens from a tyrannical government.

>This man was an enemy of the U.S., simple as that.

Yes he was but he was deprived of due process.

Where will you draw the line? When Freepers are assassinated
for being enemies of the state?


46 posted on 09/30/2011 11:58:16 AM PDT by fretzer
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To: fretzer
You either adhere to the Constitution or you don’t. Make your choice.

The Constitution doesn't come into it. We aren't accusing him of a crime. We're making war on him and his ilk. Why are we making war on him and his ilk? Because they're making war on us. People you are at war with are outside Constitutional purview.

Ron and the Paultards think the proper way of handling the Pearl Harbor attack was to issue indictments on persons unknown making dive bombing, torpedo attacks and strafing runs on American warships and servicemen. Then, capturing some of them through some unknown method that doesn't compromise their Constitution rights, use convictions against the "trigger-men" and plea bargains to work your way up to "Mr. Big". Yeah, that'd work.

Ron Paul and the Paultards should make the choice: sanity or insanity. So far Ron himself seems to be going with insanity. You have to make the same choice: sanity or insanity.

So

47 posted on 09/30/2011 12:03:20 PM PDT by Cheburashka (If life hands you lemons, government regulations will prevent you from making lemonade.)
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To: Cheburashka

>We’re making war on him and his ilk.

Wow. So it’s ok for the US Government to make war on and kill its own citizens?

FWIW, I’m a Palinista.


48 posted on 09/30/2011 12:16:25 PM PDT by fretzer
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To: ¢ommon ¢ents

His/their status was change from citizen to combatant...could happen to anyone (US citizen) due to Homeland Security.


49 posted on 09/30/2011 12:20:22 PM PDT by Razzz42
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To: svcw

Paul is correct

§ 1481. Loss of nationality by native-born or naturalized citizen; voluntary action; burden of proof; presumptions

(7) committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States, violating or conspiring to violate any of the provisions of section 2383 of title 18, or willfully performing any act in violation of section 2385 of title 18, or violating section 2384 of title 18 by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, if and when he is convicted thereof by a court martial or by a court of competent jurisdiction.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001481——000-.html


50 posted on 09/30/2011 12:31:25 PM PDT by Cortez1776
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