Skip to comments.Warning: The threat of suspended elections is real
Posted on 09/30/2011 10:54:56 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike
With absolutely no proof of any kind of who he really is, Barack Obama made it to the Oval Office in 2008. There was no media vetting of the largely absentee senator from Illinois, who even back then had the temerity to compare himself to Abraham Lincoln. All anyone ever had to go on was an autobiographical book suspected of being ghost-written by an unrepentant domestic terrorist. We all know how it goes with politicians and autobiographical books.
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I think maybe more like talking out of turn. That some people in the Obama Administration have been thinking about this has been obvious to me for a couple of years now. But talking about it well ahead of time may be counterproductive for those who want to make it happen>
IF something like this ever happened it would probably take place this time of the year. Like late October? Much easier to controll the masses during the winter month. Food supplies could be cut off and what would people do for food? Not to mention snow would slow down all the snow state if noone removed it or put gravel down.
Just think about it. That is how they could control a large population. Even a heavily armed but not so prepared population.
I think the good guys would probably eventually win but not before a lot of people were killed or mamed and/or half starved to death.
The threat of suspended elections is no more real than the threat of armed revolution.
No matter how you slice it or dice it, it would amount to treason.
The penalty for treason is death. No exceptions.
“Never happen until they disarm us.”
This is one of the reasons the forefathers created the Second Ammendment.
The left has always had the tyrant gene. Leftists and tyranny have always been one and the same.
And we made it thru Y2K without martial law.
(this is not to say I put anything beyond the pale of jackass in the WH)
I pray that Moses knows.
What could cause a “National Emergency” big enough to get elections suspended?
First off, Pres. Johnson already researched that one. The Constitution itself would have to be suspended, and that is ONLY done through a declaration of martial law. Johnson considered it only as a means to avoid riots he thought were going to happen due to the shootings of MLK and RFK and from Vietnam protests. As it turned out, cooler heads prevailed and we had an election.
In this case, it wouldn’t be to avoid riots, but a naked power grab meant to bring the country under complete control. As it is, any such move would be instantly seen for what it was and it would be stopped. What Barry the Boob and his cronies need is a ‘trigger’, something that frightens the populace so much that martial law would be welcomed.
What could do that?
Obama has ‘joked’ more than once about wanting to govern without Congress.
Everyone here has heard of Executive Order. clinton said sign it (the Executive Order) and it is the law of the land. Those who say it cannot happen here said 911 could not happen either. (imho) The world nor the citizens have any idea how powerful these people are. So the options are submit (if they do it) or die. Many may choose to die. The problem with all this is I think this has been cussed and discussed for years. They have a plan, and ole Dixie will be driven down in their plan. So what does one propose to stop this freight train? I do not have a clue.
Agree...with extreme prejudice....
On the other hand our opponents aren't an ocean away this time.
“Of course theyre real! Why else would Perdue in NC plant the seed a few days ago?”
“Wow..... Guess the NC governor was spewing dnc talking points after all.......”
Posted this on the Rush thread when I heard him mention the article:
McCleod’s article may seem over the top, but the week prior to the NC Gov making that statement, there were several journalists who making similar noises (see post #45).
In short, this has all the hallmarks of a talking point trial balloon.
Conservatives need to keep their eye on this because I have no doubt alternate plans are underfoot if THEY cannot recover Obamas image or run another candidate they think can win against a Repub. Obama can come and go, but the AGENDA must live on at all costs.
The only question I have is, Would the Autocrats be satisfied with handpicking our next Repub candidate? If not, all bets are off-thus the need for them to prepare for more extreme scenarios.
If there's 'blood' they'll use that as an excuse to use more force against us.
Is this part of the 'gunrunner' setup? Hard to believe elite liberals were going after Mexican gun cartels... more likely the target was conservative Americans. Americans who could be paraded publicly as a threat to the nation... A useful threat to shut down elections, shut us up, intimidate conservatives - etc.
It WAS ACORN that passed out 'don't tread on me' signs at an early Tea Parties. Around the same time elite liberals were saying the Tea Party was part of the militias... were up against organized totalitarians... or that's how it seems.
I received this email today
Scary stuff, from a man who has been exposed to all ends of the political prospecti
David Kaiser is a respected historian whose published works have covered a broad range of topics, from European Warfare to American League Baseball. Born in 1947, the son of a diplomat, Kaiser spent his childhood in three capital cities: Washington D.C., Albany, New York, and Dakar, Senegal .. He attended Harvard University, graduating there in 1969 with a B.A. in history. He then spent several years more at Harvard, gaining a PhD in history, which he obtained in 1976. He served in the Army Reserve from 1970 to 1976
He is a professor in the Strategy and Policy Department of the United States Naval War College . He has previously taught at Carnegie Mellon, Williams College and Harvard University. Kaiser’s latest book, The Road to Dallas, about the Kennedy assassination, was just published by Harvard University Press.
Dr. David Kaiser
History Unfolding. I am a student of history. Professionally, I have written 15 books on history that have been published in six languages, and I have studied history all my life. I have come to think there is something monumentally large afoot, and I do not believe it is simply a banking crisis, or a mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes these exist, but they are merely single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now coming into a sharper focus..
Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it because I know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people react to it. Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something happening within our country that has been evolving for about ten to fifteen years. The pace has dramatically quickened in the past two.
We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our banks make massive loans to people we know they can never pay back? Why?
We learned just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no real oversight by anyone, has “loaned” two trillion dollars (that is $2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to whom or why or disclose the terms. That is our money. Yours and mine. And that is three times the $700 billion we all argued about so strenuously just this past September. Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are the terms unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I thought this was a government of “we the people,” who loaned our powers to our elected leaders. Apparently not.
We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy... Why?
We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and no longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why we are worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing, school boards continue to back mediocrity. Why?
We have now established the precedent of protesting every close election (violently in California over a proposition that is so controversial that it simply wants marriage to remain defined as between one man and one woman. Did you ever think such a thing possible just a decade ago?) We have corrupted our sacred political process by allowing unelected judges to write laws that radically change our way of life, and then mainstream Marxist groups like ACORN and others to turn our voting system into a banana republic. To what purpose?
Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in free fall, major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge of collapse, social security is nearly bankrupt, as is Medicare and our entire government. Our education system is worse than a joke (I teach college and I know precisely what I am talking about) - the list is staggering in its length, breadth, and depth.. It is potentially 1929 x ten...And we are at war with an enemy we cannot even name for fear of offending people of the same religion, who, in turn, cannot wait to slit the throats of your children if they have the opportunity to do so.
And finally, we have elected a man that no one really knows anything about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big as Wasilla , Alaska .. All of his associations and alliances are with real radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we learn about him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary (Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh, of course. The media would never play that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin’s pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe are more important.)
Mr. Obama’s winning platform can be boiled down to one word: Change. Why?
I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am now.
This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has never, ever done in his professional life. In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming. And when it comes, you will never see the same nation again. And that is only the beginning..
As a serious student of history, I thought I would never come to experience what the ordinary, moral German must have felt in the mid-1930s In those times, the “savior” was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser from the streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing. What they should have known was that he was associated with groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he edged his way onto the political stage through great oratory. Conservative “losers” read it right now.
And there were the promises. Economic times were tough, people were losing jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and frowned and waved a lot. And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear that his “brown shirts” would bully and beat them into submission. Which they did - regularly. And then, he was duly elected to office, while a full-throttled economic crisis bloomed at hand - the Great Depression. Slowly, but surely he seized the controls of government power, person by person, department by department, bureaucracy by bureaucracy. The children of German citizens were at first, encouraged to join a Youth Movement in his name where they were taught exactly what to think. Later, they were required to do so. No Jews of course,
How did he get people on his side? He did it by promising jobs to the jobless, money to the money-less, and rewards for the military-industrial complex. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe , and across the world. He did it with a compliant media - did you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and .......... change. And the people surely got what they voted for.
If you think I am exaggerating, look it up. It’s all there in the history books.
So read your history books. Many people of conscience objected in 1933 and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and ridiculed. When Winston Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated in the House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he was booed into his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though. And the world came to regret that he was not listened to.
Do not forget that Germany was the most educated, the most cultured country in Europe . It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and universities. And yet, in less than six years (a shorter time span than just two terms of the U. S. presidency) it was rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors.. All with the best of intentions, of course.. The road to Hell is paved with them.
As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional decisions, I have a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of evidence tell me (even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what history is shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can hope I am wrong by closing my eyes, having another latte, and ignoring what is transpiring around me..
I choose to believe the evidence. No doubt some people will scoff at me, others laugh, or think I am foolish, naive, or both. To some degree, perhaps I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and tell them exactly what I believe-and why I believe it.
I pray I am wrong. I do not think I am. Perhaps the only hope is our vote in the next elections.
Jamestown , Rhode Island
By passing this along, perhaps it will help to begin the awakening of America as to where we are headed.
I like the way Judi thinks! :)
Such an attempt would devistate this nation. Successful or not. This criminal administration is out of control.....
The president has absolutely no authority to suspend elections. Elections are up to the states unless the Congress decides to make changes, and no changes will get through the House.
This is dangerous talk but all talk nonetheless.
As a practical matter, say the president “suspends” elections and the states pay no attention and conduct their elections anyway, neither the senate nor the president have any constitutional authority to not recognize the new House members elected since the House has final say on its membership.
God Bless our wise founders and our federal system. Our syestem is far too broad and far too complex for one man or body of men to get all the levers of power at once, or for long.
And when I and several other Freepers posted that the RATS might try and do just this we were told by many to put our tinfoil hats away.
Face it no mater how bad things look for Zero and his minions dont expect to hear a dirge coming from the White House, instead expect to hear the Degüello
Michael Rivero, you’re back!
Pruning of the tree of liberty?
There are countless numbers of citizens praying you are correct. May it be so, in Jesus name. Amen.
He already has the mussolini chin pose going in most speeches.
One, Obama clearly is a America-hating Alinsky-worshipping iconoclast who has already demonstrated extra-constitutional tendencies and a tendency to deviate from convention to satisfy his ends.
And second, a suspicion of government and its motives is very healthy.
The White House would be surrounded by tanks within 5 minutes of such an announcement.
Don’t be ridiculous.
Ain’t gonna happen.
I remember the Dumbs getting all worked up about this exact same scenario when GWB was in office.
Don’t forget, the Dems have a different standard.
Guess what if they try that the threat of civil war is real too and 90-95% of the military will not stand with Obuggery.
Do you mean those peacocks with the maximum amount of decorative brass? Those preening weenies who KNOW that Obama posted forgeries, who KNOW that Obama has no valid social security number, who KNOW that there are serious questions about the so-called natural born status of the Commander in Chief?
Where is the evidence that these princes of puffery sought clarification of Obama’s eligibility from the courts or congress? Is this how they watch the backs of the brave and honorable men and women coming home in caskets due to ROEs that favor Muslims? When did usurpation, fraud, lying, forgery, and identity theft become part of the oath to defend the Constitution or the military code of honor. Is this what they now teach in a military academies?
Those guys? Don't hold your breath.
Hopefully the real brave and honorable lower level officers and service men and women do take their oaths to defend the Constitution seriously.
Still praying to be absolutely wrong.
We need to get back to paper ballots asap. These computers are very suspect and we should not take a chance on virtual ballots. A recent article addressed the ability to remotely change votes on voting machines. If there is a way to cheat, you can be sure the rats have found it. Let’s make it as hard as possible.
More likely we will have a sham election.
Then the question is what are WE going to do about it.
That is my take on it too. There is an ominous undercurrent already.
You are 100% wrong.
Hope so ... and may you be correct.
Don’t forget, without the US, Canada and Mexico are nothing. Both are immensely effected by what happens here. It is in any freedom loving Canadian’s interest to ensure that America is free. Else, if America were defeated from within, then what is there to stop a tyrant from taking Canada.
Obama has nukes...it’s the only way he couuld take over the country!
This is what I was referencing when Nixon made his thought (stated). One phone call, eighty percent of the population disappears. That says these people have enormous power. The question of those taking the orders would act on those orders or not I believe to be a mystery. Is anyone powerful enough to place people in positions to act on those orders, if given? Personally ... would rather not think of all the possibilities, though would guess ... it is possible.
That is when she suddenly has a headache!
Wouldn't be prudent.
Mark my words , ENOUGH will to make a difference .Remember, Obummer has been the firearms salesman of the year for the past two years .
To kill the snake you remove its head.
Winter ain’t too bad in the southern and south western states.
Obama could allow outside proxies to nuke us as well then refuse authorise the nuke codes for reprisal!
Obama could allow outside proxies to nuke us as well then refuse authorise the nuke codes for reprisal!
I’m ready, just show me my post.
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