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Moderate Virginia Imam Assassinated
Dearborn Underground ^ | 10/1/2011 | TR Clancy

Posted on 10/01/2011 9:45:01 AM PDT by TR Clancy

For once we’re all in agreement this guy was a terrorist.

But a reminder is in order of just who Awlaki was not so long ago.

Just before the 9/11 attacks, he was the imam of the large Falls Church mosque in northern Virginia. He was the Muslim chaplain at George Washington University. The New York Times reported that, a few weeks before 9/11, Awlaki preached a sermon in the U.S. Capitol.

After the 9/11 attacks, Awlaki was widely believed to be a moderate. He was first imam to pray at the U.S. Capitol with the Congressional Muslim Staff Association in 2002. (Present that day was Nihad Awad, executive director of CAIR.) He was honored with an invitation to talk at a Pentagon luncheon, because the Secretary of the Army “’was eager to have a presentation from a moderate Muslim'.” In his presentation Awlaki reportedly condemned al Qaeda and the 9/11 attacks. As late as May 2010 the New York Times quoted the “moderate” Awlaki approvingly:

“We came here to build, not to destroy,” the cleric . . . said in a sermon. “We are the bridge between Americans and one billion Muslims worldwide.”

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TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: alawlaki; blog; dearborn; islam; jihad; mohammedan; moslem

1 posted on 10/01/2011 9:45:12 AM PDT by TR Clancy
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To: TR Clancy

Moderate by what standard?Revisionist history being written so soon after the fact?Well,he’s a good Muslim now....


2 posted on 10/01/2011 9:48:53 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: TR Clancy

Muslims never lie.


3 posted on 10/01/2011 9:52:29 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Farmer Dean

FD, maybe you misread the article, or didn’t read it at all. The author’s point is that this guy was considered a “moderate moslem” by the MSM and liberals before 9/11. The author claims his true colors as a radical were always there for anyone to see.


4 posted on 10/01/2011 9:52:57 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Well he’s a good dead radical muslim now.

I believe that the former President of Egypt once said “There is no such thing as moderate Islam. There is only Islam.”


5 posted on 10/01/2011 10:00:33 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: TR Clancy

You must remember the great historian obama said in one of his campaing speeches to the American people that Muslims have contributed much to the formation and the building of this country.


6 posted on 10/01/2011 10:01:47 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: TR Clancy
“He was born in New Mexico, and his family returned to Yemen when he was 7. When he came back to attend Colorado State University he lied on his visa application and said he was born in Yemen, enabling him to collect $20,000 in scholarship money for foreign-born students.”

Wait, wait...what was that about manipulating his bio to obtain foreign-born scholarship? I wonder if they bunked him up with a bunch of Pakistanis...like Obama?

7 posted on 10/01/2011 10:10:29 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: TR Clancy

So now that the left has found that this guy was too dangerous to the US to go on living, are they equally willing to admit that the Fort Hood massacre was an act of outrageous terrorism perpetrated on Obama’s watch?

I didn’t think so.


8 posted on 10/01/2011 10:16:08 AM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: TR Clancy

He should be getting his Helen Thomas looking virgins right about now......


9 posted on 10/01/2011 10:57:23 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: TR Clancy

No such animal as a “moderate”Muslim


10 posted on 10/01/2011 11:02:59 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: TR Clancy

11 posted on 10/01/2011 11:06:51 AM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: TR Clancy

The bigger problem with this is that the cleric was a U.S. citizen, and his killing was clearly in violation of the Constitution. The government will be sued over this, and pay millions of dollars to his family, but more importantly, the government now has precedent to kill anyone who is labelled a terrorist.


12 posted on 10/01/2011 11:11:32 AM PDT by bone52
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To: bone52

Yep!


13 posted on 10/01/2011 11:39:08 AM PDT by gman992 ("I'm a conservative. I'm just a happy conservative.")
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To: bone52

Horse hockey on your bleeding heart drivel! That scumbag didn’t deserve a trial any morer than Bonnie and Clyde did! I believe THEY were citizens, were they not?! Enough of this brain-dead sophistry!


14 posted on 10/01/2011 11:55:53 AM PDT by Tucker39
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To: bone52

Horse hockey on your bleeding heart drivel! That scumbag didn’t deserve a trial any more than Bonnie and Clyde did! I believe THEY were citizens, were they not?! Enough of this brain-dead sophistry!


15 posted on 10/01/2011 11:56:30 AM PDT by Tucker39
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To: Tucker39

You are right, the Constitution should only have force when we as a society decide that the protected objects of the Constitution are worth that protection. Further, the U.S. government has never overstepped its bounds in any case, and is an omniscient benefactor of us all.

You are willing to ignore the Constitution to get an outcome that you desire. This is the same strategy employed by our beloved leader and liberals and progressives everywhere.

Either we believe in the rule of law, or we don’t. I believe in the rule of law.

Also, aren’t you are terrorist under the DHS memo that came out this past year? You are apparently conservative, post in conservative forums. You are likely opposed to abortions and support gun rights.


16 posted on 10/01/2011 12:08:05 PM PDT by bone52
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To: TR Clancy
Let me help you out TR ... wouldn't want your blog pimping post of just an excerpt garner too many hits.

Moderate Virginia Imam Assassinated

Anwar al-Awlaki was such bad news even the Obama administration wanted him dead. An American citizen, no less, with no Miranda warning.

For once we’re all in agreement this guy was a terrorist.

But a reminder is in order of just who Awlaki was not so long ago.

Just before the 9/11 attacks, he was the imam of the large Falls Church mosque in northern Virginia. He was the Muslim chaplain at George Washington University. The New York Times reported that, a few weeks before 9/11, Awlaki preached a sermon in the U.S. Capitol.

After the 9/11 attacks, Awlaki was widely believed to be a moderate. He was first imam to pray at the U.S. Capitol with the Congressional Muslim Staff Association in 2002. (Present that day was Nihad Awad, executive director of CAIR.) He was honored with an invitation to talk at a Pentagon luncheon, because the Secretary of the Army “’was eager to have a presentation from a moderate Muslim'.” In his presentation Awlaki reportedly condemned al Qaeda and the 9/11 attacks. As late as May 2010 the New York Times quoted the “moderate” Awlaki approvingly:

“We came here to build, not to destroy,” the cleric . . . said in a sermon. “We are the bridge between Americans and one billion Muslims worldwide.

The Times believes Awlaki only turned radical after the U.S. response to 9/11.

I disagree, not least because Awlaki was a liar long before 9/11. He was born in New Mexico, and his family returned to Yemen when he was 7. When he came back to attend Colorado State University he lied on his visa application and said he was born in Yemen, enabling him to collect $20,000 in scholarship money for foreign-born students.

And long before 9/11 he joined the Muslim Students Association, the Muslim Brotherhood front. He even became president of his chapter. In 1993, the year of the first World Trade Center bombing, he took his “vacation” in Afghanistan, and came back quoting Sheikh Abdullah Azzam.

According to Steve Emerson, “Azzam is more responsible than any Arab figure in modern history for galvanizing the Muslim masses to wage an international holy war against all infidels and non-believers until the enemies of Islam were defeated.”

During the Afghan war against the Soviets Azzam declared: “"The Jihad in Afghanistan will broaden until the entire world will be conquered because Allah has promised the victory to Islam."

Azzam preached at a Brooklyn mosque in 1988 that:

. . . Every Moslem on earth should unsheathe his sword and fight to liberate Palestine. The Jihad is not limited to Afghanistan. Jihad means fighting. You must fight in any place you can get. Whenever Jihad is mentioned in the Holy Book, it means the obligation to fight. It does not mean to fight with the pen or to write books or articles in the press or to fight by holding lectures.

Awlaki’s radicalism was getting noticed. According to the New York Times,

[T]he F.B.I. had first taken an interest in Mr. Awlaki in 1999, concerned about brushes with militants that to this day remain difficult to interpret. [I.e., difficult to the New York Times. t.r.c.] In 1998 and 1999, he was a vice president of a small Islamic charity that an F.B.I. agent later testified was “a front organization to funnel money to terrorists.” He had been visited by Ziyad Khaleel, a Qaeda operative who purchased a battery for Osama bin Laden’s satellite phone, as well as by an associate of Omar Abdel Rahman, the so-called Blind Sheik, who was serving a life sentence for plotting to blow up New York landmarks.

In 2008 the Washington Post reported:

Federal prosecutors in New York alleged in a 2004 terrorism-related trial that a U.S. branch of a Yemeni charity for which Aulaqi served as vice president was a front that sent money to al-Qaeda. Documents filed around the same time in federal court in Alexandria assert that a year after 9/11, Aulaqi returned briefly to Northern Virginia, where he visited a radical Islamic cleric and asked him about recruiting young Muslims for "violent jihad."

And since Awlaki the jihadist was a liar, it was easy enough to lie to the Kuffirs about what Islam meant to him. And with so many Kuffirs absolutely desperate to paste a “moderate” label on anything in a Kufi that moved, it was almost too easy. Not everyone was fooled. But the ones who weren’t fooled, like the FBI, somehow failed to impress upon those who were what kind of guy they were dealing with.

But what’s important here is to recognize that the same moderate façade that shielded the real Awlaki in the months after 9/11 is just as effective for those wearing it today:

Leadership of a large mosque; so what?

An MSA/Muslim Brotherhood connection; and? A Muslim chaplain at a prominent university; what about it?

Sympathies with a Palestinian Islamist; something wrong with that?

Association with CAIR; what of it? Association with Congressional Muslim Staff Association; Yeah?

High-level involvement with the U.S. branch of a Muslim “charity”; your point being?.

Viewed by some in the U.S. government as an “’up and coming member of the Islamic community'”; exactly.

Leader of “a chorus of outrage” after post-9/11 over a series of raids on Muslim community leaders, “noting that some of the targets were widely viewed as moderates”, (just like Awlaki was widely viewed as a moderate);

Publicly condemns al Qaeda and the 9/11 attacks;

Claims to be a “bridge” between Americans and the Muslim world;

Known for “interfaith outreach, civic engagement, and tolerance’”';

Moderate.

Bridge.

Interfaith.

Tolerance.

So? Does all that mean that every al Qaeda condemning, moderate-sounding imam who gets himself invited to government meet-and-greets is a lying jihadist who despises the Kuffir fools who line up to shake his hand?

No, it doesn’t.

But, having said that, that’s all the defense these guys will get from me.

Because Awlaki sounded just like them, and the onus isn’t on me to prove that, behind the façade, they don’t think just like him.

17 posted on 10/01/2011 12:14:19 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: Farmer Dean

“Well,he’s a good Muslim now....”

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He is a moooooooooderate muslim now.


18 posted on 10/01/2011 12:29:20 PM PDT by 353FMG (Liberalism is Satan's handiwork.)
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To: TR Clancy
I guess by "moderate" they mean he hadn't actually killed anybody...yet.
19 posted on 10/01/2011 12:46:07 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: TR Clancy

The Virginia mosque even put something on their website and Twitter Feed saying he was assassinated

http://maroonedinmarin.blogspot.com/2011/09/falls-church-va-mosque-says.html


20 posted on 10/01/2011 12:49:12 PM PDT by stratman1969 (Run, Sarah, Run - 2012!)
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To: 353FMG

At least the birds got a good meal courtesy of the CIA.


21 posted on 10/01/2011 1:02:53 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: bone52

Bonnie and Clyde received the rule of law, and so did the raghead. Did you ever hear of the term “Wanted! Dead or Alive” ? Both B & C and the raghead immam were dealt with under THAT principle. Sometimes an entity’s continuing to live and to ply their “trade” is so dangerous to the world and society at-large that the only remedy is what befell these 2 examples!


22 posted on 10/01/2011 1:08:25 PM PDT by Tucker39
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To: bone52

This “moderate” immam drivel is hillarious, too. That raghead terrorist was a moderate........but Jerry Falwell was an extremist. Hogwash.......or worse!


23 posted on 10/01/2011 1:12:05 PM PDT by Tucker39
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To: Tucker39

An outcome based interpretation of the Constitution is the same method of interpretation used by democrats as well. Your position is unprincipled and outcome based, and the adoption of this position by politicians is what has brought our country to its current state.

I also want people like Anwar dead, but I want our government to do it legally. We are all better off with Anwar alive, but with a legitimate government. Terrorists have killed thousands, and unlimited government has killed tens of millions.


24 posted on 10/01/2011 1:48:42 PM PDT by bone52
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