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"An unconstitutional killing: Obama's killing of Awlaki violates American principles" Ron Paul
NY Daily News ^ | 10/2/11 | Ron Paul

Posted on 10/02/2011 2:11:40 PM PDT by Bokababe

.....I don't trust Obama with determining what protections I should be allowed as a citizen any more than I trust him with our general defense, the economy, health care, job growth - or anything else.

The usual justification for such abuse of the rule of law is that the post-9/11 period demands a different code of conduct to ensure people's safety. But politicians can always find excuses for why they should be allowed to disobey the Constitution.....

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2011/10/02/2011-10-02_an_unconstitutional_killing.html#ixzz1Zeydd8Ny

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KEYWORDS: awlaki; constitution; morethorazineplease; obama; paulkucinich12; paulmckinney12; ronpaul; spotthelooney
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Please tell me why Ron Paul is the only one out there defending or even mentioning the Constitution on this?

The rest -- Romney and Perry et all -- are cheerleading Obama on this. Why? Maybe because they just can't wait to have this kind of power for themselves.

1 posted on 10/02/2011 2:11:44 PM PDT by Bokababe
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To: Bokababe

I would give my right arm for the power to slaughter sub-human terrorist filth unilaterally!


2 posted on 10/02/2011 2:14:50 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Bokababe

Good question. If Bush had done this, the MSM and the Left would be screaming, “BUSH SLAUGHTERS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN!”


3 posted on 10/02/2011 2:17:37 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Doctor 2Brains
I would give my right arm for the power to slaughter sub-human terrorist filth unilaterally!

Whose stopping you?

4 posted on 10/02/2011 2:17:51 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

So tell me, how is killing an enemy on the battle field in a war unConstitutional?
Personally, I am sick of Paul and his blame America first rants and his apparent worshipers.


5 posted on 10/02/2011 2:18:49 PM PDT by svcw (Those who are easily shocked... should be shocked more often. - Mae West)
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6 posted on 10/02/2011 2:18:49 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Bokababe

I am not a Ron Paul fan, or anything Ron Paul, but he has a point.

Remember, they declared the Tea Party terrorists. What is to stop them from killing us?


7 posted on 10/02/2011 2:19:52 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded." Andrew Klavan of PJTV)
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To: Bokababe

The man!


8 posted on 10/02/2011 2:20:19 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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Al Awalki is a citizen?

Hey Ron, we used to call ***holes like this traitors.


9 posted on 10/02/2011 2:20:36 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Bokababe

He was killed on his own battlefield working for the enemy trying to kill Americans.

Case closed.


10 posted on 10/02/2011 2:21:20 PM PDT by DB
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To: NoGrayZone

There’s only one, er, 300,000,001/2 (more or less) reasons they don’t try. And we’re armed to the teeth.


11 posted on 10/02/2011 2:23:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Bokababe
When Nazi leader and Holocaust mastermind Adolf Eichmann was convicted and executed by the Israeli government in 1962, it was after he was captured, extradited and tried.

And Nazi Germany Army and aggression was 15 + years in the rear view mirror. To choose the parallel as he has done proves nothig other than his stupidity, which is his Constitutional right. But if he wants the US military to send a mission into Yemen, or wherever to capture Alwaki, then he needs to volunteer to lead it.. er, on second thought, go along for the ride. More Lew Rockwell from Paul. Why doesn't Rockwell run for President and eliminate the middle man?

12 posted on 10/02/2011 2:23:27 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Bokababe; All

“The rest — Romney and Perry et all — are cheerleading Obama on this.”

Because the person “assasinated” was an expatriate involved in sedition against the United States and was giving aid and comfort to enemies of the U.S. He no longer merited any Constitutional protections because he was in a state of war against this country. My only regret is that Mr. Obama gets to take credit for this.

Ron Paul is an absolute fool on matters of foreign policy; a dangerous one. Only the naive and drug sellers/users support him.


13 posted on 10/02/2011 2:26:08 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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I think part of the problem here is that the 5th amendment applies to criminals, not to enemy combatants in a war. Civil Libertarians and Ronulans seem to miss the distinction.

If you make a bunch of public statements on your website promoting war against the United States (or Jihad against the great Satan, or anything that means war against the United States), you are no longer a criminal, you are an enemy combatant.

Also, while making due process available is required by the 5th amendment, the person needs to avail themselves of due process, and not resist due process and force a confrontation with possible deadly consequences.

Al Awlaki could have had due process any time, if that's what he wanted. I doubt he would have been shot on site if he returned to the US and proceeded to turn himself in, provided he kept his hands up and in plain site the whole way.

14 posted on 10/02/2011 2:26:25 PM PDT by ˘ommon ˘ents ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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To: Bokababe

The Constitution was been screwed over since there is no longer a formal declaration of war. We are left with Presidential work-arounds and UN resolutions. If we can bomb other nations without a formal declaration of war, the President becomes a dictator. The last time we had a nation united in war was WW II when we formally declared war.


15 posted on 10/02/2011 2:27:31 PM PDT by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Bokababe

When you take up arms against the United States and murder its people, citizen or not, due process is doing what it takes to get rid of you, not a court date.


16 posted on 10/02/2011 2:27:42 PM PDT by DB
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To: Bokababe

Good for Ron Paul, he didn’t say, as many here would, ‘principal’!


17 posted on 10/02/2011 2:28:46 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: mylife
Al Awalki is a citizen?

Yes.

"Hey Ron, we used to call ***holes like this traitors."

We still do, but this guy was never even charged with treason -- or with anything.

It's not about Awlaki. It's about the power of the presidency -- which Obama thinks has no limits.

18 posted on 10/02/2011 2:28:53 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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Good point. Unfortunately I’d wish they’d get on with it already and try.

Screw it. America is on the end of it’s rope. I’d rather die fighting then being shot in the back of the head with no warning.


19 posted on 10/02/2011 2:29:47 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded." Andrew Klavan of PJTV)
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To: Bokababe

Sure hope he was guilty. But, we’ll just have to trust in the government. I guess now the prevailing wisdom is that capturing with the intent to extract intelligence is bad, but killing from drones is good. A hellfire up the hoo-ha is okay, but waterboarding is torture.


20 posted on 10/02/2011 2:31:03 PM PDT by andyk (Income != Wealth)
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