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Will Holder Turn State’s Evidence And Finger Obama Or Be Fitted With A Snazzy Orange Jumpsuit
Flopping Aces ^ | 10-04-11 | Skookum

Posted on 10/04/2011 2:39:53 PM PDT by Starman417

These Days Are Over

"What we've got here is... failure to communicate."

A quote from the movie Cool Hand Luke: spoken by The Captain, the imperious warden and by Cool Hand Luke at the conclusion of the film.

Anagnorisis is the moment or instant when ignorance gives way to truth; assumed to be first described by Aristotle in his "Poetics," it along with peripeteia (reversal of fortune) describe Eric Holder's recent encounter with facts and soon justice and perhaps federal prison in Leavenworth.

How poetic, the ancient Greeks so aptly described the present situation Holder created for himself by committing perjury, a crime he would no doubt prosecute against another felon with fast and furious efficiency, but now he is the one who faces prosecution and imprisonment for committing perjury during a congressional hearing.


Chain Gang Street Sweepers, DC 1909

The race card will be difficult to play effectively and Affirmative Action has run out for Eric Holder. Actually, the race card has been so overplayed by Obama, Holder, and the Congressional Black Caucus, it may have lost all relevance.

New emails indicate that Holder lied during congressional hearings on May 3, in front of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. During sworn testimony, he stated that he first heard of Operation Fast and Furious "over the last few weeks;" however, he had been briefed in a memo almost a year earlier on July 5, 2010. Actually, he was briefed on the operation in a continuous stream of emails that updated him and other key members of the administration on the progress and relative success of the operation. He was well aware of the fact that thousands of weapons were being bought by the Sinaloa cartel and being carried across the border.

Here is a sample excerpt:

From July 12 through July 16, the National Drug Intelligence Center Document and Media Exploitation Team at the Phoenix Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCTDETF) Strike Force will support the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives’ Phoenix Field Division with its investigation of Manuel Celis-Acosta as part of OCDETF Operation Fast and Furious. This investigation, initiated in September 2009 in conjunction with the Drug Enforcement Administration, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and the Phoenix Police Department, involves a Phoenix-based firearms trafficking ring headed by Manual Celis-Acosta. Celis-Acosta and [redacted] straw purchasers are responsible for the purchase of 1,500 firearms that were then supplied to Mexican drug trafficking cartels. They also have direct ties to the Sinaloa Cartel which is suspected of providing $1 million for the purchase of firearms in the greater Phoenix area.

Besides the race card, Holder's defense attorney will surely claim that an AG is overwhelmed with dozens of reports each week and these particular reports escaped his attention because of overwork and incompetence. Ordinarily, in the case of parking tickets and run of the mill political corruption, these three defenses warrant acquittal, but this case is a little different. Two federal agents have been murdered with these weapons that the Obama Administration tried beyond measure and common sense to place in the hands of Narcotics traffickers and killers; their sense of accommodation is to be commended, if only they could have placed such efforts on the economy. There have also been hundreds if not thousands of Mexican nationals killed with these same weapons; yet by a simple plea of incompetence and of overwork, Holder will surely try to distance himself from the mayhem and murder brought about by the Obama plan to arm Mexican Drug gangs.

It will be hard to convince a jury that he missed similar reports every week for a number of months, but he may putting too much faith in the color of his hide if he relies on that defense. It is far more likely that he will turn State's Evidence and give up Napolitano and Obama to avoid a lengthy prison term, but he better move quick, the memos and reports are coming to the surface daily.

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; bhofascism; corruption; democrats; doj; ericholder; fastandfurious; fraud; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; holdertruthfile; obama; perjury; specialcounsel; specialprosecutor; undertheradar

1 posted on 10/04/2011 2:40:05 PM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

I see something like a “Special Mission” to Sarajevo in Holder’s future.

Maybe an Inspection tour of the Solyndra Plant in California?


2 posted on 10/04/2011 2:42:03 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: tcrlaf

Maybe he’ll raid the houses of the Sister Wives cast.


3 posted on 10/04/2011 2:43:44 PM PDT by sappy
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To: Starman417
I expect to hear this response from Joe Biden any day now to a question about Eric Holder: "Eric Holder? Who's he?"
4 posted on 10/04/2011 2:43:49 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Starman417
...Holder's defense attorney will surely claim that an AG is overwhelmed with dozens of reports each week and these particular reports escaped his attention because of overwork and incompetence. Ordinarily, in the case of parking tickets and run of the mill political corruption, these three defenses warrant acquittal...

Ordinarily...

These are excuses typically heard in regard to minor accountabilities in a mid-level job.

These are NOT the kinds of excuses you would expect (nor tolerate) from the President or his top cabinet members. That's why they have chiefs of staff, and deputy chiefs of staff, etc.

-PJ

5 posted on 10/04/2011 2:45:04 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: Starman417

I don’t think Holder will turn, as long as he can be pardoned by Obama.

However, if Obama faces impeachment and removal, that could change things.


6 posted on 10/04/2011 2:45:10 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: sappy

We already know from past history that minions who become a threat to the Democrat Masters usually don’t fare well.


7 posted on 10/04/2011 2:45:58 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Starman417
Will Holder Turn State’s Evidence And Finger Obama Or Be Fitted With A Snazzy Orange Jumpsuit

Neither. If the author thinks Obama or Holder will suffer any real consequences from this, Steven Tyler of Aerosmith has something to say to him......

Dream On Dream On Dream On
Dream On Dream On
Dream On Dream Oooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn...............

8 posted on 10/04/2011 2:46:54 PM PDT by edpc (Former Normalcy Bias Victim)
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To: Starman417

Why is this even being discussed or posted or argued? IslamObama and Holder are DEMOCRATS and therefore EXEMPT from our laws.


9 posted on 10/04/2011 2:48:01 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Mark Halperin - Learned the hard way what happens when you speak the truth on PMSNBC.)
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To: Starman417

far reach.


10 posted on 10/04/2011 2:52:19 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: Starman417
Will Holder Turn State’s Evidence And Finger Obama Or Be Fitted With A Snazzy Orange Jumpsuit

Or will he end up a victim of the first drug cartel assassination of a top government official in the USA? (Or an "accident"?)

11 posted on 10/04/2011 2:52:30 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Starman417
Will Holder Turn State’s Evidence And Finger Obama Or Be Fitted With A Snazzy Orange Jumpsuit

Or, much more likely, will he finish out his term as AG, then write a Conservative-bashing book, then become a Host on MSNBC.

12 posted on 10/04/2011 2:53:57 PM PDT by sklar
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To: tcrlaf

a special meeting at Ft. Marcy Park should solve the problem.....


13 posted on 10/04/2011 2:57:38 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Starman417

Holder is counting on getting a jury of “his people”, just like OJ.


14 posted on 10/04/2011 2:58:38 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Starman417

The government will get together a Blue Ribbon Commission of Democrats and Republicans which held prior office, and are easily blackmailed and bribed. This Blue Ribbon Commission will examine endless amounts of evidence, ponder endless legal arguments and take extraordinary amounts of time to deliver a complex and befuddling case on why there is no controlling legal authority. Scottish law might even be cited, or the glove might never have fit.


15 posted on 10/04/2011 3:00:31 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: tcrlaf
I see something like a “Special Mission” to Sarajevo in Holder’s future.

Or maybe the gift of a copy of Ron Browns unpublished autobiography or perhaps a horse's head in his bed when he wakes up.

16 posted on 10/04/2011 3:00:43 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Starman417
What makes you so sure Holder has anything to give up.

All Obama has to do is say he wasn't told or didn't understand.

The way things have been going, when Obama says he didn't know or didn't understand what his own administration was doing, people will believe it.

17 posted on 10/04/2011 3:05:09 PM PDT by x
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To: Political Junkie Too
Holder's defense attorney will surely claim that an AG is overwhelmed with dozens of reports each week and these particular reports escaped his attention because of overwork and incompetence.

I seem to recall that the "busy" excuse did not work for Scooter Libby!

18 posted on 10/04/2011 3:06:15 PM PDT by benldguy (Obama delenda est!)
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To: Starman417
Obama is probably chain smoking, asking Soros what to do.

Hope they don't create a bigger news story to redirect the media cycle.

19 posted on 10/04/2011 3:19:44 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Starman417

Rush mentioned the MSM is actually talking about this now? Color me shocked.
I figured they would support the Baraqqi regime to the death.


20 posted on 10/04/2011 3:22:41 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Starman417

Holder should have taken a page out of the Clinton playbook. When asked potentially embarrassing questions under oath the proper reply is ALWAYS: “I don’t recall.”


21 posted on 10/04/2011 3:23:45 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Starman417

Nothing will happen other than some reports in the press, a few hearing (maybe), and a bunch of furious blog posts. The rule of law is effectively dead for the most part in the US, and the law won’t be enforced against the first “black” AG or the first “black” President. Even TOTUS will be safe ;-)


22 posted on 10/04/2011 3:27:59 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: nascarnation

Rush, himself, has barely been talking about this. He has only begun to give it prominence BECAUSE the MSM has finally been forced to talk about it.

Love Drudge and Rush, but BOTH have been behind the curve on this. One has to ask oneself why.


23 posted on 10/04/2011 3:39:41 PM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: Starman417

I smell a presidential pardon..


24 posted on 10/04/2011 3:44:22 PM PDT by aces
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To: Starman417

wasn’t it Brown who ended up with a 45 size hole in his head when his sarajevo plane went down...Holder better find someplace to hide...


25 posted on 10/04/2011 3:47:02 PM PDT by aces
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To: aces

>I smell a presidential pardon..

If that happened there should be OUTRAGE, and lots of it, regardless of party.


26 posted on 10/04/2011 3:48:51 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Starman417

Couldn’t happen to a more deserving guy.


27 posted on 10/04/2011 3:50:00 PM PDT by Axeman77385 (I am the resurrection and the life, saith the Lord)
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To: aces

I think that smell is coming from Holder’s finger.


28 posted on 10/04/2011 4:15:06 PM PDT by ChiefJayStrongbow
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To: Starman417
I don't think he can do that, if he values his life.
29 posted on 10/04/2011 4:30:06 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Starman417

I believe Holder gets impeached next year. It will put 17 rat ssenators going for re-election in a bind.


30 posted on 10/04/2011 7:26:57 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Starman417

If the Clintons were still in charge he would die in a plane crash.


31 posted on 10/04/2011 7:38:33 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Go Steelers (what's the baseball team called again?))
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To: Kartographer

Yeah, Biden drinks a lot.
Fact is Joe is a serious drunk


32 posted on 10/04/2011 7:47:29 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (FUBO)
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To: Sawdring
At the top of the list........Arlene Spector..........

8:}

33 posted on 10/04/2011 7:48:19 PM PDT by AwesomePossum (I have never looked this forward to a November II........)
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To: tcrlaf
Yeah, I was just thinking that if Clinton were the POTUS (either one of them) Holder would be found dead on a park bench as a suicide or just plain face down in the Potomac, sporting a third eye between the original pair.
34 posted on 10/05/2011 9:45:44 AM PDT by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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To: Joe Boucher

>Yeah, Biden drinks a lot.
>Fact is Joe is a serious drunk

If you had to hang around DC, wouldn’t you be too? ;)


35 posted on 10/05/2011 3:42:45 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Actually I lived in D.C. And worked at the pentagon for two years.
Loads of fun, opportunity for protest,the museums and splendor but fortunately I got out.


36 posted on 10/05/2011 3:52:57 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (FUBO)
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To: Joe Boucher

>Actually I lived in D.C. And worked at the pentagon for two years.
>Loads of fun, opportunity for protest,the museums and splendor but fortunately I got out.

Hm, really?
How was it then?

I just imagine it’s an awful place, historical curios & such excepted, especially considering all the crap that comes out of there.


37 posted on 10/05/2011 4:10:55 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

I worked a rotating shift and got lots of three and four days off in a row.
The Smithsonian alone is worth at least a day a week.
The Art, History,AirAndSpace, Zoo,etc then through in all the free concerts on like the 4th etc.
Then in the military I could go to like Pautexant navel airbase and go sailing for free.
Across the freeway from the pentagon was an old Marine supply depot I played tennis and used a huge pool for zero.
Rock creek, and a million old battle fields around,
There is an old canal on rock creek.
Visitors would come and u can’t believe the tours we gave.
Fun place but get out in time.


38 posted on 10/05/2011 4:39:50 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (FUBO)
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