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Steve Jobs Was Not God
Gawker ^ | 10/7/2011 | Hamilton Nolan

Posted on 10/07/2011 1:30:39 PM PDT by toma29

Steve Jobs is dead. A tech genius has passed on. Sad. Certainly a devastating loss to Steve Jobs' close friends and family members, as well as to Apple executives and shareholders. The rest of you? Calm down.

Among my Facebook friends yesterday, more than one wrote publicly that they were "crying" or "can't stop crying" or "teared up" due to Steve Jobs' death. Really now. You can't stop crying, now that you've heard that a middle-aged CEO has passed, after a long battle with cancer? If humans were always so empathetic, well, that would be understandable. But this type of one-upmanship of public displays of grief is both unbecoming and undeserved.

Real outpourings of public grief should be reserved for those people who lived life so heroically and selflessly that they stand as shining examples of love for all of humanity. People like, for example, the Rev. Fred Shuttlesworth, who—along with his family—was bombed, beaten, and stabbed during his years of principled activism in the US civil rights movement. Shuttlesworth died yesterday, the same day as Steve Jobs. He did not die a billionaire.

Death, of course, is not a competition. All deaths are sad for the living. Everyone deserves to be mourned, and well-known people will inevitably be mourned more loudly than others. But it is actually important to keep our grief in perspective. When we start mourning technocrats as idols, we cheapen the lives of those who have sacrificed more for their fellow man.

Steve Jobs was great at what he did. There's no need to further fellate the man's memory. He made good computers, he made good phones, he made good music players. He sold them well. He got obscenely rich. He enabled an entire generation of techie design fetishists to walk around with more attractive gadgets.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Music/Entertainment; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: apple; ipad; jobs; pagans; stevejobs; stilldead
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1 posted on 10/07/2011 1:30:47 PM PDT by toma29
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To: toma29

I’m curious as to what the reaction would have been had it been Bill Gates instead of Steve Jobs?

Both were giants, regardless of which side you were on in the PC vs. Mac debate, certainly Bill Gates would have deserved all of the kudos that Steve Jobs received.

But somehow I don’t think that would have been the case.


2 posted on 10/07/2011 1:32:27 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: toma29

To those hanging out in front of Apple stores:

Get. A. Life.


3 posted on 10/07/2011 1:32:37 PM PDT by tpmintx (Problem: The people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living.)
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To: tpmintx

Well, considering all the scumbags people seem to adore in this country, they can do worse than mourning someone who epitomized American individualism, ingenuity, and entrepeneurism. He did what he did as a private citizen, not as some government wanker.


4 posted on 10/07/2011 1:35:57 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: tpmintx

These people are commuting back and forth from the the Infest Wall Street protest!

And Jobs was not a god but a brilliant albeit ruthless business man.


5 posted on 10/07/2011 1:36:49 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (There's a revolution "brewing".....)
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To: dfwgator

“Both were giants, regardless of which side you were on in the PC vs. Mac debate, certainly Bill Gates would have deserved all of the kudos that Steve Jobs received.

But somehow I don’t think that would have been the case.”

Good point. I suppose it’s in part because the gadgets Gates invented didn’t become objects of idolatry by millions of shallow worshippers.


6 posted on 10/07/2011 1:37:26 PM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: toma29
A fairly balanced view. I wouldn't even call him a tech genius, although a Genius, he was. But some, of course, make more of him than that. Sorry to put any fellow freepers in this category, but I see the same type of human worship in Obamabots. I dont believe in worshiping mere men.

"He was a man, take him for all in all, we shall not look upon his like again."

7 posted on 10/07/2011 1:38:19 PM PDT by Paradox (The rich SHOULD be paying more taxes, and they WOULD, if they could make more money.)
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To: toma29
To acknowledge the death of Steve Jobs and admire his accomplishments does not diminish what anyone else accomplished in their life.

But I agree, the crying and the competition for most grieving fan is typical baby boomer angst and emotionalism..

8 posted on 10/07/2011 1:38:37 PM PDT by lawnguy (The function of wisdom is to discriminate between good and evil-Cicero)
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To: Magic Fingers
Good point. I suppose it’s in part because the gadgets Gates invented didn’t become objects of idolatry by millions of shallow worshippers.

And to put it mildly, which one of the two would have scored more with the chicks?

9 posted on 10/07/2011 1:38:37 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

I tend to agree with you.

Given the adoration for all the idiot celebrities and sports figures we find these days in the USA, it’s almost heartwarming to see a relentless capitalist get some love from the youngsters.


10 posted on 10/07/2011 1:38:50 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: tpmintx

At the passing of the Apple Founder, it has been determined it’s just another “Job” lost...


12 posted on 10/07/2011 1:40:51 PM PDT by mikelets456
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To: nascarnation; Bruce Campbells Chin

I agree with both of you.


13 posted on 10/07/2011 1:41:52 PM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: tpmintx

JOBS.... A three letter word...... J-O-B-S


14 posted on 10/07/2011 1:41:58 PM PDT by donhunt (Certified and proud "Son of a Bitch".)
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To: nascarnation

I also need to mention that when people have no God, they will still find someone to worship.

Better Steve Jobs than Lady Gaga, Tiger Woods, or Michael Jackson.


15 posted on 10/07/2011 1:42:02 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: IamCenny

I never heard that, do you have some references?

He did have pancreatic cancer.


16 posted on 10/07/2011 1:42:51 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: tpmintx

In 10 years it will be Steve who?
MP3 players will be in the same junk box with 8 tracks.
iPAD & MacBook will be piled in the same corner with 286 computers.

Pixar may be the only lasting technology as it evolves into
lifelike photoshop animation to totally eliminate actors and sets.


17 posted on 10/07/2011 1:43:24 PM PDT by updatedscreenname
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To: toma29

He’s dead, Jim.

Now pick up the pieces of your shattered lives and move along.


18 posted on 10/07/2011 1:43:57 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: toma29
Flags were even lowered in his honor. That is not acceptable. That is for the fallen police officers,firefighters and servicemen/women and presidents. He did not die in the line of duty.
19 posted on 10/07/2011 1:43:57 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Calgon,take me away.)
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To: toma29
One of the state-run media's talking heads compared Jobs' inventions, equal to or better than Edison's.
"He [Jobs] changed the way we live." Grooooooan ...
20 posted on 10/07/2011 1:44:23 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: toma29

Get a grip.Did he give his life so that others may live? Hardly.


21 posted on 10/07/2011 1:45:28 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Calgon,take me away.)
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To: Magic Fingers

““Both were giants, regardless of which side you were on in the PC vs. Mac debate, certainly Bill Gates would have deserved all of the kudos that Steve Jobs received.”
***********************

?????

Oh.....$$$$$


22 posted on 10/07/2011 1:45:50 PM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: toma29

Wow, sometimes I feel referring to Apple customers as cultists is a bit hyperbolic. Then pictures like that come out. Really that’s just creepy.


23 posted on 10/07/2011 1:45:56 PM PDT by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: toma29

I get the feeling the author has a grudge against rich people. Sad that people like this author feels the need to chastise people who are mourning the death of someone we felt we knew, despite him being filthy rich. 56 is too young to die.


24 posted on 10/07/2011 1:46:27 PM PDT by psjones (u)
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To: toma29
You Windows user!

giggle.........

25 posted on 10/07/2011 1:47:11 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Have ya hit 'em in the a$$, Never let off the gas 'til ya rolled into Victory Lane?)
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To: toma29

How many of those mourning Steve Jobs death want to “tax the rich evil CEO’s” and agree with the Occupy Wall Street protesters. How many of the protesters are tweeting about evil corporations on their iphones?


26 posted on 10/07/2011 1:47:49 PM PDT by Rad_J
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To: gunnyg

“Both were giants, regardless of which side you were on in the PC vs. Mac debate, certainly Bill Gates would have deserved all of the kudos that Steve Jobs received.”

That was dfwgator’s comment.


27 posted on 10/07/2011 1:48:51 PM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: IamCenny

“Didn’t Steve Jobs have AIDS? I’m pretty sure Bill Gates would get the ladies, macs are for PU**IES.”

I wonder why I keep coming back here.


28 posted on 10/07/2011 1:49:13 PM PDT by guppas (A prayer for Obama - Psalm 109:8 ~ "Let his days be few and brief; and let others step forward to r)
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To: dfwgator
I’m curious as to what the reaction would have been had it been Bill Gates instead of Steve Jobs?

Good question (and your answer too.)

Gates didn't (doesn't) have the drive. Look, he took the money and ran to Africa carrying mosquito nets, another guilt ridden liberal. Jobs if he lived and by some odd chance got fired again from Apple, would have gone on to start another company, right? Gates didn't so much conceptualize and invent as he stole. Gates gave us deeply flawed products, and over engineered products (Office). Gates was (isn't no more) a geek, while Jobs was, as many have observed, an artist.

29 posted on 10/07/2011 1:49:56 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: nascarnation

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs_purported_HIV_medical_status_results,_2008

He followed a diet consistent of HIV patients, pancreatic cancer is common in HIV patients (Kaposi Sarcoma).


30 posted on 10/07/2011 1:51:12 PM PDT by IamCenny
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To: nascarnation

He did not have AIDS. You are correct about the pancreatic cancer.


31 posted on 10/07/2011 1:51:59 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: toma29

Hamilton Nolan is no Steve Jobs.


32 posted on 10/07/2011 1:52:11 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Rad_J
Steve Jobs was an evil Capitalist.

His profit margins were among the highest in the country.

Did he have an Foundations that helped the poor?

Saying that he was a true capitalist and a great businessman.

33 posted on 10/07/2011 1:52:23 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: dfwgator

Cancer is a disease of personality..deep buried anger that transforms some of the bodies cell into the demonic creatures minions which inhabit that body. That is why so much rage and sexuality in our society corresponds with huge numbers of deaths by cancer. It is not God’s judgment, but the devils with people going along with it and not seeing the source. The fhu.com has the remedy...Be still exercise has helped cure many people.


34 posted on 10/07/2011 1:54:00 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: toma29

There’s something about Steve Jobs dieing that gets people all wee-weed up.


35 posted on 10/07/2011 1:54:26 PM PDT by McGruff (Still a member of Sarah's Army)
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To: dfwgator

“which one of the two would have scored more with the chicks?”

What do you mean, would have? Without their money? but their money is an extension of who they are.

The real test would be, I guess, the same test for the rest of us: how did they score from Junior High through College (or however much college they went to). I might pick Jobs, if only because I know he named the “Lisa” computer after an illegitimate daughter, whereas I’ve never seen Gates near a woman in my life. Not that he couldn’t be married or have a barem, for all I know.

One thing I do know is that there’s two types of computer weirdos: nerds and hippies. Jobs seems relatively hippie, Gates nerd, which means by definition Jobs got more ladies.


36 posted on 10/07/2011 1:54:26 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: toma29

We are a culture of grief. We wallow in it. Roadside memorials; flowers, candles, etc, at the scene of homicides; people making fools of themselves over the deaths of celebritards, etc., etc. I often wonder if many people who engage in this are just seeking attention for themselves.


37 posted on 10/07/2011 1:54:55 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Living well is no longer the best revenge. Revenge is now the best revenge.)
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To: IamCenny

Did you just cite Wiki as a reputable source?


38 posted on 10/07/2011 1:55:30 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: toma29

It’s true that many Apple users have acted like cultists.

It’s also true that just about all of Apple haters act like cultists of another kind.

(Full disclosure: I am not an Apple user.)


39 posted on 10/07/2011 1:58:10 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: fabian

If you are being serious, that is without a doubt the stupidest post in the history of FR.


40 posted on 10/07/2011 1:59:00 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: updatedscreenname

Pixar has done some great stuff and seeing airheaded and overpaid celebrities relegated to the history book would be a great use of always improving anamation technology.

Jobs did a lot of really neat things but the near worship is a bit much.


41 posted on 10/07/2011 1:59:00 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Revolting cat!

“Gates didn’t (doesn’t) have the drive.”

He had different drive, is all. Gates wanted all the money in the world, which he got. Jobs wanted to change the world, which he did. Once you achieve the one, there’s nowhere to go. If you’re the world’s richest man, that’s it. No one cares if you get richer. But if you’re always chasing down the Next Big Thing to further your worldwide Church of Technology, you can always keep growing, which people notice.


42 posted on 10/07/2011 1:59:09 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: EEGator

Yes, the information on the page is correct, or I wouldn’t have cited it, it also has links to documents saying STEVE JOBS WAS HIV POSITIVE. Here’s another source. http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/230/1232163447241kk7.jpg, since you want to cry about wiki.


43 posted on 10/07/2011 2:00:18 PM PDT by IamCenny
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To: Magic Fingers

Gates & Jobs created entire industries. Industries that transformed society in certain ways. Sometimes for the good; sometimes not.

Jobs had a little more flair. But otherwise they both were/are great men.


44 posted on 10/07/2011 2:00:24 PM PDT by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: nascarnation; IamCenny

I never heard that, do you have some references?

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Of course, IamCenny has no references. She just came onto this thread to spout her opinion on Macs and her own body parts.


45 posted on 10/07/2011 2:00:27 PM PDT by dmz
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To: EEGator

Pancreatic cancer is more common in HIV patients....it’s called Kaposi’s Sarcoma, also he followed a diet that HIV patients follow. There would be no motivation for this information to be faked, Occham’s Razor. Simplest explanation is usually correct, Steve Jobs most likely had AIDS.


46 posted on 10/07/2011 2:02:45 PM PDT by IamCenny
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To: dfwgator

barem = harem


47 posted on 10/07/2011 2:02:56 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: dmz

I just posted sources, jackass. Go worship your mac like it’s G*d now please.


48 posted on 10/07/2011 2:03:44 PM PDT by IamCenny
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To: gunnyg

“?????

Oh.....$$$$$”

????

Oh, you were judging Jobs by some standard other than as a businessman. Which is fine, but not what matters to Apple’s stockholders, who would have loved Gates’ $$$$$ during various eras of the company’s history.


49 posted on 10/07/2011 2:05:21 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: IamCenny

I’ve never owned a Mac. Sorry, just another epic fail on your part.


50 posted on 10/07/2011 2:05:34 PM PDT by dmz
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