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Ron Paul wins Values Voters straw poll
Dallas Morning News ^ | October 8, 2011 | Wayne Slate

Posted on 10/08/2011 12:27:29 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Ron Paul won the Values Voters straw poll on Saturday with 37 percent of the vote. Rick Perry finished in a tie for fourth with Michele Bachmann. Herman Cain, who received a raptuous response from the crowd to his speeh Friday finished second in the balloting of delegates attending the two-day showcase of Christian conservatives. Rick Santorum finished third with 16 percent. Perry and Bachmann each got 8 percent of the vote.

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1 posted on 10/08/2011 12:27:36 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ron is a master at winning those straw polls.


2 posted on 10/08/2011 12:29:12 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you always tell the truth, you won't have to remember what you said.)
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To: All

“In second place was Herman Cain with 23 percent of the vote,”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65482.html


3 posted on 10/08/2011 12:29:18 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

37% for Ron Paul? LOL

Guess that’s the best the value voters could come up with. The buses were busy today.


4 posted on 10/08/2011 12:30:28 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Yea a values poll where Ron thinks homosexuals should marry, homosexuals should serve openly, crack houses next to a elementary school etc

Yea I’m sure that is great values there Ron.


5 posted on 10/08/2011 12:31:27 PM PDT by manc (Beckett08 an anti war ANSWER troll who re-registered.Promoting the protests, not condemning)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“Rounding out the pack were Mitt Romney with 4 percent, Newt Gingrich with 3 percent and Jon Huntsman with 0 percent.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65482.html


6 posted on 10/08/2011 12:31:27 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: manc

I’ve never been able to figure out what the objective is of these straw polls. LOL!


7 posted on 10/08/2011 12:35:21 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you always tell the truth, you won't have to remember what you said.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A little VVS history from Wiki...

2007: Mitt Romney placed first with almost 28% of a total of 5,776 votes cast.
2008: No straw poll was held since the Republican nominee for the 2008 presidential election, John McCain, was already decided. Instead, speakers and attendees expressed support for McCain and his running mate, Sarah Palin.
2009: Mike Huckabee won with 28% of the vote.
2010: Mike Pence won with 24% of the vote.


8 posted on 10/08/2011 12:35:29 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: FlingWingFlyer

LOL You know what , you have a great point , straw poll what is it good for?

Great question.

Hope you’re having a good weekend, hopefully the rain we’re getting here will move up to NY city and wash the great unwashed


9 posted on 10/08/2011 12:36:53 PM PDT by manc (Beckett08 = anti war ANSWER troll who re-registered.Ask the troll why they won't condemn protesters)
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To: manc
Doing good here so far. The rain AND SNOW have stopped here in northern Arizona. Looks like we're going to get a few days to dry out. It's pretty cold though. Phoenix is supposed to warm up again over the next few days. The stink level factor of the "Occupy Phoenix" mob is about to increase.

I hope you're having a good Columbus Day weekend also!

10 posted on 10/08/2011 12:45:45 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you always tell the truth, you won't have to remember what you said.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Columbus day doesn’t really get celebrated here but we’ll be having a nice weekend even though the weather is awful.

Think we’ll see an increase due to the media covering this more and more of them getting on sites like this promoting it.


11 posted on 10/08/2011 12:53:27 PM PDT by manc (Beckett08 = anti war ANSWER troll who re-registered.Ask the troll why they won't condemn protesters)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ron Paul winning all these straw polls makes no sense. What’s with this?


12 posted on 10/08/2011 12:58:32 PM PDT by cblue55 (It's either America, or Obama. It cannot be both!)
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To: cblue55
Ron Paul winning all these straw polls makes no sense. What’s with this?

Straw Polls just poll the number of fanatics who care enough to show up at a certain place at a certain time.

They are as relevant to the Real World as polls at a Star Trek Convention asking if Klingons or Romulans are better fighters in a war in outer space.

13 posted on 10/08/2011 1:06:35 PM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama should be Priority Number One.)
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To: cblue55
Ron Paul winning all these straw polls makes no sense.

It's what happens when straw votes.

14 posted on 10/08/2011 1:08:33 PM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I don’t know why they continue to hold these nonsensical straw polls.


15 posted on 10/08/2011 1:30:48 PM PDT by pgkdan (Perry 2012!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ron is awesome...he wins all the straw polls then during the real polls that count in the voting booth...he gets .00001%


16 posted on 10/08/2011 1:33:24 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I’ve never been able to figure out what the objective is of these straw polls. LOL!
The Florida straw poll a couple of weeks ago certainly pushed Herman Cain into the limelight. It was enough to completely change the dynamics of the race.
17 posted on 10/08/2011 1:36:17 PM PDT by Johnny B.
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Those "Values Voters" have different values than most Americans. I do not want a president who defends terrorists and claims America deserves to be attacked.

Ron Paul is CRAZY and dangerous.

Still, he is better than Obama so that shows how undesirable is Obama.

18 posted on 10/08/2011 1:37:46 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Embarrassing result for Rick Perry. 8%? Perry is a joke.


19 posted on 10/08/2011 1:59:56 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Ron Paul and huntsman are the two that REALLY make me uneasy.


20 posted on 10/08/2011 2:11:15 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Ron Paul and huntsman are the two that REALLY make me uneasy.


21 posted on 10/08/2011 2:11:31 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

How many of these danged straw polls do we have to endure?


22 posted on 10/08/2011 2:20:09 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Here's the text of Ron Paul's speech to the Voter Values Summit.

I can understand why he won.

People who actually listen to Ron Paul -- as opposed to those who only listen to what's said about Ron Paul in ways that are often distorted and twisted -- have very different impressions of the man. I know this because I used to part of the only-know-what-I-read-about-Ron-Paul crowd before I took the time to listen to him, directly.

23 posted on 10/08/2011 2:32:09 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
RP is right on 95% of the time ,,,, but that 5% is always something really bizarre ,,,, kinda like that crazy Uncle I always hear people talk about .
24 posted on 10/08/2011 2:40:20 PM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
According to the Paulbots, since Ron Paul wins these straw polls we should refer to him as the "Front Runner" whenever we discuss him. LOL

Too bad these morons are skewing the real numbers of support

25 posted on 10/08/2011 2:48:57 PM PDT by Popman (Obama is God's curse upon the land....)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I believe the Florida straw gave Cain a push.
However, the diference with Ron Paul is its not going to suddenly make people go wow, Ron Paul I have never thought about him before. He’s ran for President 3 times?
Anyone who has thought about him has already made up their minds and will be voting for someone else if history is a guide.


26 posted on 10/08/2011 2:54:39 PM PDT by Leep
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To: Popman

It is must be fun to live in a world where you can set up straw men and then knock them down with a look of smug triumph on your face. No “Paulbot” ever claimed he was a “frontrunner” on the basis of straw poll wins.


27 posted on 10/08/2011 2:56:43 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Popman

It is must be fun to live in a world where you can set up straw men and then knock them down with a look of smug triumph on your face. No “Paulbot” ever claimed he was a “frontrunner” on the basis of straw poll wins.


28 posted on 10/08/2011 2:56:50 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Lionheartusa1

No the crazy Uncles are the ones who believe that we can afford to keeping policing the world without consequence, and supported that monstrosity called TARP (paging Herman Cain and Romney). Unfortunately they are the frontrunners!


29 posted on 10/08/2011 2:58:57 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: BfloGuy

Obviously your candidate lost!!!


30 posted on 10/08/2011 2:59:52 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: cblue55
Ron Paul winning all these straw polls makes no sense. What’s with this?

I attended the summit. Ron Paul has a cult following--a real, no-kidding, bow-down-and-worship cult following. His disciples were everywhere. They can easily control the results at a venue of this size, and they did.

I voted for Santorum. He worked the summit hard and his family helped him. He was impressive. I wish he could get some traction.

31 posted on 10/08/2011 3:02:40 PM PDT by behzinlea
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To: Captain Kirk
No “Paulbot” ever claimed he was a “frontrunner” on the basis of straw poll wins.

http://www.infowars.com/forget-the-hoax-ron-paul-is-a-presidential-front-runner/

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/09/28/is-ron-paul-the-iowa-frontrunner/

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread740899/pg1

http://real-agenda.com/2011/09/26/ron-paul-front-runner-rick-perry-to-drop-out-of-race/

http://absolutelynonpaul.blogspot.com/2011/10/mystery-of-ron-paul-freakshow.html

32 posted on 10/08/2011 3:07:05 PM PDT by Popman (Obama is God's curse upon the land....)
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To: Bokababe
People who actually listen to Ron Paul -- as opposed to those who only listen to what's said about Ron Paul in ways that are often distorted and twisted -- have very different impressions of the man.

I was at the summit. I talked to a lot of folks, and found no evidence that anyone was newly persuaded to support Ron Paul at the summit. Maybe it happened. I saw no evidence of it. The people who voted for Ron Paul came to the summit prepared to vote for Ron Paul. That's my impression.

33 posted on 10/08/2011 3:07:14 PM PDT by behzinlea
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To: behzinlea

I love the sore losers, trying to explain the lack of enthusiasm for their candidate. I wonder if they are also the types to turn over the checkboard when their bested.


34 posted on 10/08/2011 3:07:25 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Results of the Value Voters Poll:

Ron Paul: 37%
Herman Cain: 23%
Rick Santorum: 16%
Michele Bachmann 8%
Rick Perry 8%
Mitt Romney 4%
Newt Gingrich 3%
Jon Huntsman 0%

“Those results probably aren’t accurate,” one voter joked after Paul’s victory was announced. “Cain wowed everybody. He’s good.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65482.html#ixzz1aENbBL9I


35 posted on 10/08/2011 3:17:27 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: behzinlea
I was at the summit. I talked to a lot of folks, and found no evidence that anyone was newly persuaded to support Ron Paul at the summit. Maybe it happened. I saw no evidence of it. The people who voted for Ron Paul came to the summit prepared to vote for Ron Paul. That's my impression.

Sorry, I should have been more clear -- I'm not there, didn't hear his speech, only read it, but was impressed. I was also speaking in generalities about the difference between those who only read about Ron Paul, mostly from his detractors using an inflamatory headline, as opposed to listen to him directly.

I'm genuinely curious. Don't most of the people there come to support a specific candidate? Is it like a straw poll in that sense? Or do most come with a blank slate and then vote purely on what they hear?

36 posted on 10/08/2011 3:21:29 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Captain Kirk

Actually, that is untrue. I have heard many tout the “many” straw polls he has won as an indicator of his strength and frontrunner status. Heck, I think a few articles posted on here said as much.


37 posted on 10/08/2011 3:35:20 PM PDT by chilepup
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To: FlingWingFlyer

its simple:buy tickets for people,bus them in,and youre a shoe-in.Which is why I find straw polls meaningless and garbage.


38 posted on 10/08/2011 4:26:40 PM PDT by LBarraza
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To: chilepup
Actually, that is untrue. I have heard many tout the “many” straw polls he has won as an indicator of his strength and frontrunner status. Heck, I think a few articles posted on here said as much.

Yes, but in general when Ron Paul wins a poll, the MSM either ignores it or tries to diminish the importance of the poll itself.

Like Ron Paul asked the Press Club recently: "How many people know who won the Florida Straw Poll? (Cain) How many know who won the California Straw Poll? (Ron Paul)"

The Florida win for Cain got huge media traction. And it's true --the California win for Paul was almost completely ignored.

39 posted on 10/08/2011 5:52:00 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: cblue55; Tonytitan
Ron Paul winning all these straw polls makes no sense. What’s with this?

He energizes his supporters because he has solutions to problems that have been plauging the country for the past 40 years. And, he has been saying the same things for almost the same amount of time:

Some Observations on Four Terms in Congress .
40 posted on 10/08/2011 6:04:21 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: BfloGuy
>>>>>How many of these danged straw polls do we have to endure?<<<<<<<


Here's another from today:

Oct 8, 2011

Herman Cain Tops Republican Presidential Straw Poll at Midwest Leadership Conference

St. Paul–Herman Cain topped the Republican Presidential Straw Poll conducted at the Midwest Leadership Conference, which concluded today, October 8. Conference attendees from throughout the Midwest, MLC volunteers and event vendors participated in the balloting.

Herman Cain captured 52.6 percent of the vote followed by Michele Bachmann with 12.2 percent and Mitt Romney at 11.1 percent.

Earlier Saturday, Cain addressed the conference via Skype and took questions from delegates.

Rounding out the voting Ron Paul captured 10.7 percent, Rick Perry 4.0 percent, Newt Gingrich 3.3 percent, Rick Santorum 2.0 percent, Jon Huntsman 0.9 percent and Gary Johnson with 0.2 percent.

The Midwest Leadership Conference gathered Republican leaders and activists from Republican National Committee's Midwest Region - Ohio, Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, Wisconsin, North Dakota, South Dakota, Michigan, Indiana, Iowa, Illinois and Minnesota - and around the nation. The conference includes activist training sessions and speeches by notable conservative leaders including Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, syndicated talk show host Jason Lewis, political commentator Michael Reagan, and Senior Advisor to President George W. Bush Karl Rove.


41 posted on 10/08/2011 6:07:13 PM PDT by deport
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Translation: 63% of the attendees were non-cult members, and of those folks Herman Cain was the winner.


42 posted on 10/08/2011 6:38:13 PM PDT by SoCalTransplant (Failure is always an option...just never a good one.)
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To: Popman

Just thought that I would point out that argueing with a Ron Paul supporter who calls himself “Capt. Kirk” is probably not the best use of your blogging time....

Just saying....


43 posted on 10/08/2011 9:50:27 PM PDT by Mtner77
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To: Captain Kirk
Obviously your candidate cheated. Or at least his Soros funded supporters did.

Values Voter straw poll organizers suggest a fix in Ron Paul's win

44 posted on 10/09/2011 6:08:12 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: behzinlea
"Ron Paul has a cult following.."

Hmmm... What seems like a cult fascination to you is merely our great relief in discovering a political candidate who is not in it for only himself, one who has read and understands the Constitution, One who recognizes the danger of continuing to allow the globalists to set our agenda, one who knows instinctively that we cannot continue to spend in deficit, and similar differences between Dr. Paul and the "establishment" candidates.

IMO the real cultists are the ones who continue to blindly follow the failed leadership of the past.

45 posted on 10/09/2011 7:02:04 AM PDT by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: Bokababe
"Don't most of the people there come to support a specific candidate?"

Of course they do. As one who has volunteered to hand out flyers for a candidate, I can attest that the percentage of "undecideds" is very low indeed. Most attendees are obviously committed before they arrive.

46 posted on 10/09/2011 7:09:28 AM PDT by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: Designer
Of course they do. As one who has volunteered to hand out flyers for a candidate, I can attest that the percentage of "undecideds" is very low indeed. Most attendees are obviously committed before they arrive.

Thanks, Designer. That's what I thought.

So all kvetching is basically just sore loser nonsense about the fact that Ron Paul won.

47 posted on 10/09/2011 9:59:55 AM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
Yup. Straw polls are unscientific, and never claimed to be.

Truly interesting to see the excuses posted for the losers.

48 posted on 10/09/2011 3:28:48 PM PDT by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“Ron is a master at winning those straw polls.”

But the people who ran the Values Voters Summit felt the straw poll was skewed, because those who voted for Paul LEFT right after their vote for Ron Paul.

So apparently their purpose was to have Ron Paul “win” a straw poll.

Herman Cain actually won the straw poll, imo.


49 posted on 10/10/2011 11:41:08 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun
Same thing happened at the Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans earlier this year.

The Paul supporters were bussed in to hear his speech and vote in the Straw Poll. They were gone as soon as Paul finished his speech.

Unfortunately, I was surrounded by them. Nothing but rude College kids. I told the kid siting next to me that if the U.S. followed Ron Paul's Foreign Policy back in the 1940’s we would all be speaking German today. He got up and moved to another seat after I told him that.

I liken them to a swarm of Locusts.

50 posted on 10/11/2011 12:00:58 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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