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I Stand With The Protesters
The Wall Street Examiner ^ | 10.9 .2011 | Lee Adler

Posted on 10/09/2011 4:02:47 PM PDT by Razzz42

We as a society must stop pretending. Most of us think that we still have money in the bank to protect, so we go along with the game of extend and pretend. For some of us, the game has already ended. The rapacious zero interest rate policy that I call Bernankecide has already robbed millions of savers of their life savings. This is the reality that has yet to hit home for many Americans who are content to wallow in the status quo. Unfortunately, the longer it takes for them to wake up, the worse their, and our, fate will be.

My mother and millions of other senior citizens are among the victims of the game that policy makers and those who empower them are playing. Their life savings are gone because Bernankecide, the financial genocide of the elderly, forced them to spend their principal. Now the government is indirectly confiscating 8% of my income because I must support my mother. That percentage is likely to grow as her health deteriorates.

Millions of other boomers are in the same boat. They are forced to pay this immoral hidden tax because Ben Bernanke decided that the innocent must pay for the sins of the guilty. While Bernanke’s ZIRP goes on allowing the banksters to continue to collect their fat bonuses, it steals the savings of millions of Americans, eliminates their disposable income, and cuts the spending power of millions of others who must now support those rendered destitute. The guilty benefit, and the innocent are punished.

Bernanke knows that, yet he continues to side with the criminal bankers in support of the financial genocide of the super elderly, and their children, the baby boomers who must increasingly support them.

Among the OWS protesters are those calling for forgiveness of student loans. They may be acting in their own self interest, but it is a just cause, and must be a part of the cleansing of the system. The student loan thing is a long running racket that preys on the inexperience of children and young people just starting out in life. When I was 20 years old I trusted the system (wrongly). What did you know at age 18 or 20?

The fact is that the people’s “savings” that funded those loans, including the fake savings backed by phony assets that have yet to be written down, are already gone. These loans cannot be repaid. Bond holders must get wiped out. Then we’re all going to have to take a haircut. The student loans can’t be repaid because these kids either can’t get jobs at all or can’t get jobs with pay high enough to pay the loans. These loans never had any backing. They were fake from the moment they were issued. But the issuers didn’t care. They got their fees up front.

The student loans are the tip of the iceberg. Bankers have made and sold trillions of dollars worth of loans that they knew, or should have known, could not be repaid. That’s fraud. It must be prosecuted. Today, central bankers and governments are refunding those loans, knowing that a substantial portion of them cannot be repaid. Worse, they are buying them above par because of today’s fake low interest rates. Then they guarantee them by obligating us and future generations to repay them. This is criminal.

I figure that at least a third of our deposits are worthless because they have no assets behind them. Those running the scam know that. Those investing in the scam know it. But they don’t care because they get to collect their fees off the top. That is a system that institutionalizes theft. It must be changed to a performance based model. If you don’t earn a positive return, you don’t get paid. Instead, governments have taken over the scam while transferring wealth to and protecting the criminals who built the system.

If you are blaming the protesters, or are mystified by them, then you just don’t get it. Denial is part of the problem. Too many people have yet to wake up to the fact that they have already been victimized. They are playing along with the dishonest shell game of extend and pretend that the Fed and other central banks and governments are running. It’s time to get real, wake up, and face the music. The longer the game goes on, the worse the consequences for the 99%, and ultimately for the 1%, whose ranks will be decimated at some point, and probably not peacefully if this scam is allowed to continue for much longer.

As long as we continue to avoid cleansing the system of the fraud, as long as we refuse to put the fraudsters in jail, they will continue to bleed us dry. If those in charge of administering justice, like President See No Evil Obama and his worthless AG Eric Holder, refuse to do their jobs and seek to punish the guilty, our society and our culture could spiral into chaos and mob rule. Those in the top 1% who are responsible for this fraud, either directly by running it, or indirectly by supporting it financially, must ultimately be brought to justice or society will perish. There’s no way out other than reform, or revolution, or societal collapse. Those are the choices I see. We had better take the first one, and take it now.

So stop worrying about yourself, and start worrying about the future of your children and grandchildren. The government practice of constantly doubling down in support of the fraud is only digging a deeper and deeper hole. Demand reform of the system now. End the fraud now. Make the guilty pay. Instead of rewarding the bankers, prosecute them. They knew, or should have known, that the loans they were making and selling to others could never be repaid. But they did not care. They only cared that they got their fees up front, and their bonuses in the end.

It’s time to reset and start over. We will all pay a price in the short run, but the longer we wait, the steeper the price will become. Reform and reset now is the only way to begin a real recovery. Stop the fraud, return to the rule of law, prosecute the bankers, punish the guilty, figure out what our assets are really worth and pay us a fair return, and most importantly, return basic standards of fairness and ethical behavior, something that many in society must relearn. It must be done. There is no other way, no other reasonable choice. Failure to act now will consign us to a future in hell.


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1 posted on 10/09/2011 4:02:48 PM PDT by Razzz42
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To: Razzz42

Anybody who stands with the scum protesting Wall Street are too stupid to be taken seriously and would have happily stood with the nazis in 1930s Germany.


2 posted on 10/09/2011 4:05:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (ALCS/NLCS playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2789907/posts)
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To: cripplecreek

Just listen to the “protesters” on videos and read their interviews. These people are escapees from the planet Bizarro. To stand with them is to forgo your investment in sanity and humanity.


3 posted on 10/09/2011 4:08:43 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Razzz42

If you are going to stand with the protesters/flea baggers, better watch where you are standing. You may be standing in filth.


4 posted on 10/09/2011 4:09:36 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Razzz42
So stop worrying about yourself

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5 posted on 10/09/2011 4:16:06 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Razzz42

They are simply liberals, anti-constitutionalists, nothing more and deserve to be ignored and allowed to wallow in their own excrement.


6 posted on 10/09/2011 4:16:28 PM PDT by lwoodham (There are 10 kinds of people, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: Razzz42

The crime in student loans lies less with the bankers than with the college administrators. Between Pell Grants, similar state level grants, so called work study, and student loans the colleges have been able to raise tuition levels to places they could never have gone if college tuition were actually paid by the student/family and not by a third party, be it govt or bank. Two generations ago my college tuition at Fordham College was $1800 a year for tuition. Today it is 23,500.That is double the $11,000 the BLS says should be for that $1,800 in 1969. No college could get away with this gouge if the freight were paid by the consumer and the colleges have taken full advantage.


7 posted on 10/09/2011 4:16:49 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!')
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To: Razzz42

He’s right about Bernanke.


8 posted on 10/09/2011 4:17:50 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Razzz42

/snicker


9 posted on 10/09/2011 4:18:21 PM PDT by Oceander (If you're going to "occupy" Wall Street, shouldn't you be IN Wall Street?)
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To: hal ogen
This is exactly the sort of stupidity that brought the nazis to power.

They didn't say "come one down and join the nazis so we can kill all the Jews". What they did say was look at what a mess our economy is and the greedy rich are to blame.From there it was just ahort hop to declaring all Jews to be the greedy rich who created the Weimar republic

That brought widely diverse groups of people to rally in the streets demanding change. Some of those groups hated the nazis but being the useful idiots they were, they helped lead the country to its destruction.

Third Reich - The Rise 1/6
10 posted on 10/09/2011 4:22:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (ALCS/NLCS playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2789907/posts)
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To: cripplecreek
Anybody who stands with the scum protesting Wall Street are too stupid to be taken seriously and would have happily stood with the nazis in 1930s Germany.

I'm finding that history is indeed repeating itself.

Use your favorite search engine to look for "Brechung der Zinsknechtschaft", or "manifesto on breaking the shackles of interest". It was written by Gottfried Feder.

It calls for the nationalization of banks, and abolishing the assessment of interest on loans. Sound familiar?

Feder is also known for something else: Along with three other guys, he founded the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei ("German worker's party", or DAP) in 1919. You may not have heard of them, but you may have heard of the name they later adopted: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei.

A certain paper-hanger joined with Feder that same year. He would go on to be somewhat... infamous. Feder's economic views has been credited for his opposition to "Jewish finance capitalism".

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to fulfill it. -- George Santayana.

11 posted on 10/09/2011 4:24:00 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Razzz42
If you are blaming the protesters, or are mystified by them, then you just don’t get it.

Lee Addler, if YOU get the protesters then you are warped and in need of psychiatric help.

Students were mislead when taking student loans? How? If they were too stupid to understand the concept of repaying a loan, they shouldn't have went to an expensive school in the first place. Community College would have been a great start.

You also claimed you have to pay for the care of your Mother? That is how life happens sometimes - family takes care of family.

What's that you say? Oh, I see. You want the 1% to pay for the care of YOUR dear old Mom.

Now I see why you get along with the moochers occupying Wall Street

Slacker. Whiner. Parasite.

12 posted on 10/09/2011 4:24:00 PM PDT by arkady_renko (I want to believe.)
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To: Razzz42

Standing with the commies.


13 posted on 10/09/2011 4:24:41 PM PDT by ari-freedom (We need a Steve Jobs Plan: encourage innovation, not regulation.)
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To: Razzz42

“It’s time to reset and start over.”

What’s that supposed to mean?


14 posted on 10/09/2011 4:26:12 PM PDT by tumblindice (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Razzz42
If he wants to punish the “guilty” instead of looking at bankers he should look at the very people he wants to fix it, Congress. They're the ones guilty of fraud.

Other than that, I do not stand with the smelly, parasite, lowlife's who are currently infested the nation.

15 posted on 10/09/2011 4:26:22 PM PDT by beandog (I am both heartless and insensitive.)
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To: ColdOne

Does not suprise me he is blaming the banks for making the loans, not considering the feds were coercing the banks into approving these loans.

So the people the received the funds for these loans, spent it and now cannot pay it back, have no responsibility. Welcome to the left.


16 posted on 10/09/2011 4:26:53 PM PDT by Maryland Man (NOW is the time for conservatives to rise up!!)
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To: Razzz42

When the first ones on trial are Slick Willie Clinton, Bwany Frank, and Chris Dodd then I’ll look at the bankers but it was these a$$hats that started and promoted this collapse. The bankers may have wanted it but they couldn’t do anything without help from the top levels of the government.


17 posted on 10/09/2011 4:28:26 PM PDT by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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To: Razzz42
Interestingly, Adler does not mention the political policy (extreme liberal socialism) or the dominant political party associated with student loans, or even the political leanings of the American colleges and universities accepting students paying with these loans.

I do agree that these students were sold radically overpriced, useless educations, except those expecting to work on collective farms, but the curricula was NOT determined by the bankers, and the option to refuse to lend was not granted by the Federal government, so who is the criminal and in conspiracy again?

It might be hard to put bankers in the cells filled to capacity with DemoRat politicians, Federal bureaucrats, and conniving students, never intending to pay.

18 posted on 10/09/2011 4:28:49 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: arkady_renko
You also claimed you have to pay for the care of your Mother?

The way I read it, he was complaining that the current yield on low-risk investments is effectively 0%, and that his mother can no longer live on the earnings on her savings.

I'm rather annoyed about that myself.

19 posted on 10/09/2011 4:30:19 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Razzz42

I Stand With The Protesters

I don't think I can do that, in part because of the odor but also because of the risk of communicable disease.

20 posted on 10/09/2011 4:30:47 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: justlurking
There's something really big going on here, isn't there?

Almost like America has reached "the fullness of time" and everything is in place for a revolutionary change.

I wonder where Fast and Furious was supposed to fit in? Disarm us by popular demand?

21 posted on 10/09/2011 4:31:35 PM PDT by arkady_renko (I want to believe.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Schiff has execellent youtube vids on this subject.


22 posted on 10/09/2011 4:33:38 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Razzz42
Karl Denninger on Lee Adler:

Lee Adler Gets It. Why Don't You?

23 posted on 10/09/2011 4:33:43 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: justlurking
Workers of all lands, unite — to smash the rule of English capitalism! You young upward-striving nations of the earth, combine to annihilate the old English dragon who blocks the treasures of the earth and withholds from you the riches of the world.

-Robert Ley, German Labor Front leader (Hitler's Trumpka)
24 posted on 10/09/2011 4:34:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (ALCS/NLCS playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2789907/posts)
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To: Razzz42

ibtz


25 posted on 10/09/2011 4:34:07 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: tumblindice

“It’s time to reset and start over.”

What’s that supposed to mean?

It means the leaches are running out of blood, so they want to eat the host.


26 posted on 10/09/2011 4:34:51 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Maryland Man
It’s time to reset and start over.

Great...so not only did we buy a house that we could afford we sent our kids to community college and they worked so they wouldn't be saddled with student loans. What idiots we were!/s

27 posted on 10/09/2011 4:37:39 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: Razzz42

The protesters are idiots, but that’s the headline writer, not the author. The author just says they are right about student loans. I think the article is pretty much on target. The Ivy League grifters are stealing our kids future to protect the the megabanks.


28 posted on 10/09/2011 4:42:14 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: Razzz42

Mr. Adler is your typical, run of the mill, everyday liberal ass hat. His piece, augmented with his further comments to those who disagreed with him make that as plain as day. One of the comments on this tripe goes on to say that the REAL problem is that the USSC has judges on its panel like Thomas, Scalia, Roberts, et al.

Mr. Adler deserves no further attention, except to laugh at his circus clown economics review.

My apologies to circus clowns everywhere.


29 posted on 10/09/2011 4:42:17 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (For God and country - Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo!)
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To: Razzz42
The student loans can’t be repaid because these kids either can’t get jobs at all or can’t get jobs with pay high enough to pay the loans.

So it's OUR FAULT that some jughead with a master's degree in "minority women's studies" can't get a job or make enough money to pay off 10 years worth of student loans?

The colleges and universities aren't blameless in all of this!!! Bogus classes. Bogus "perfessors". Bogus diplomas. Bogus education. Go stand with the freeloading fleabaggers. You're one of them anyway.

30 posted on 10/09/2011 4:44:45 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Greed" is wanting everything and demanding that somebody else pay for it.)
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To: Razzz42

I can’t stand wi the protesters. I have to work.


31 posted on 10/09/2011 4:44:47 PM PDT by USMCWife6869
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To: American in Israel

They have a right to peaceably assemble and petition for redress of their grievances. They can even talk in code about “resetting and starting over,” and we have the right to reply to them,
“Quit your bitching, go home, and get back to work, like the rest of us” particularly since I have a definite impression that many of these characters were swallowing `Hope & Change’ whole three years ago.


32 posted on 10/09/2011 4:51:11 PM PDT by tumblindice (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: DuncanWaring

I don’t stand with the protesters, but he is right about the 0% interest banks pay on savings.

many peopleput money away for their retirement and it is being eaten up by low interest.

My own savings is being eaten up by inflation. They pay 1.5% and inflations causes me to lose money every week .

The frightening thing is that hyper-inflation is coming and will eat it even quicker.

You may as well put your money in a glass jar and bury it.


33 posted on 10/09/2011 4:51:11 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Razzz42

I was reading an article posted today (and I read both left and right) because I don’t trust either politicians or the MSM, that said Dem Sen Chuck Schumer basically gets all the money from Wall Street and then divvies it out to certain members that he chooses in the US Congress.

Could that be true?


34 posted on 10/09/2011 4:51:25 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: Razzz42

The author and the protesters should be standing outside the White House!


35 posted on 10/09/2011 4:52:53 PM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: ladyvet

Adler is dead right about the federal reserve and bernake. The banking system we have is a massive ponzi scam. The govt finances it scams and deficits and wars by this ponzi scam.

The protestors don’t get this. Our govt banking education media complex has destroyed this nation and unless we bring back manufacturing, production, real and sound money, end the wars, get our finances in order, boot the illegals out, do away w the public sector mafia, etc we are headed for collapse.


36 posted on 10/09/2011 4:53:47 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Razzz42

You know if the protest would even include some sort of decent outcome or reality vision which included Christ even though it may be not present on the world presently(ie..the birds of the field do not sow or reap for food why do you oh men of little faith...)at least be into a supernatural reality focus, but no..all ya hear is it’s not right over throw it....turn it to the commie vision which ends up in a shack with a bag of taters and a few bottles of vodka for every comrade..but it is also becoming evident our financial system has been reduced to nothing more than a shell game with none of the “investments” ever being there when its time to pay..
I personally could have some patience with them if it was some religious quest...but from what I have heard its pathetic...awwww jeeeez


37 posted on 10/09/2011 4:54:54 PM PDT by aces
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To: Razzz42

How is it that always on FR anyone recognising that the financial whores to the government racketers have destroyed the thrifty.
That they have ruined the honest investor.
And that they have burned the very principal of honest productive work in the furnace of greed is thereby compared to a Nazi by one poster after another?


38 posted on 10/09/2011 4:55:20 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: Mr. Jazzy
Mr. Adler is your typical, run of the mill, everyday liberal ass hat.

Pretty much, .....he's just pissed because the bankers were smarter that his Marxist DemoRat government thugs, and prevented him from giving away their money along with the taxpayers.

39 posted on 10/09/2011 4:55:34 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Hugin

People need to start laying some blame at their own damn feet as well. Nobody forces most people to have debt and frankly we can’t expect responsible government if we aren’t responsible ourselves.


40 posted on 10/09/2011 4:56:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (ALCS/NLCS playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2789907/posts)
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To: nkycincinnatikid
How is it that always on FR anyone recognizing that the financial whores to the government racketeers have destroyed the thrifty.

FR is mostly conservatives of the Uncle Miltie (Freedman) or Adam Smith type.

41 posted on 10/09/2011 5:00:36 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Razzz42
Among the OWS protesters are those calling for forgiveness of student loans. They may be acting in their own self interest, but it is a just cause, and must be a part of the cleansing of the system.

Whay are they protesting wall street about student loans? Obama nationalized student loans early in his administration, they need to protest him.

42 posted on 10/09/2011 5:00:50 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: cripplecreek

“Workers of all lands, unite — to smash the rule of English capitalism! You young upward-striving nations of the earth, combine to annihilate the old English dragon who blocks the treasures of the earth and withholds from you the riches of the world.”

It would be kind of fun to read that statement to the “Occupier” idiots and see them cheer, then tell them the source, and capture the whole thing on on video.


43 posted on 10/09/2011 5:03:14 PM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: GlockThe Vote

Thanks, I’ll look.


44 posted on 10/09/2011 5:04:13 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Razzz42

Steaming Pantload Award


45 posted on 10/09/2011 5:06:09 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Magic Fingers
It would be kind of fun to read that statement to the “Occupier” idiots and see them cheer, then tell them the source, and capture the whole thing on on video.

I thought about that myself.
46 posted on 10/09/2011 5:07:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (ALCS/NLCS playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2789907/posts)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m all for turning the fire hoses on the “protesters.”. They can clean the park and the smelly people at the same time.


47 posted on 10/09/2011 5:15:15 PM PDT by CASchack
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To: cripplecreek
Nobody forces most people to have debt and frankly we can’t expect responsible government if we aren’t responsible ourselves.

The government does. Every citizen is in debt for about 50k and counting. The Fed, the IMF are bailing out internatinal bankers and sticking taxpayers with the tab. I don't exclude government either, I just don't see much difference. It's the same people, whether they work at Treasury, the Fed, or Goldman Sachs this year.

48 posted on 10/09/2011 5:15:44 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: cripplecreek

Post noted for later viewing:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2790324/posts?page=10#10


49 posted on 10/09/2011 5:16:51 PM PDT by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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I Stand With The Protesters

Or is it more of a squat?


50 posted on 10/09/2011 5:19:42 PM PDT by j_k_l
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