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The Use and Abuse of the Endangered Species Act
Property Rights Alliance ^ | 2011-10-10 | J. Michael Wahlen

Posted on 10/10/2011 9:51:26 AM PDT by 92nina

The United States has a long history of working to protect species from extinction. In 1939, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Services (USFWS) was created for this purpose, and in 1973 the Endangered Species Act (ESA) was passed to augment its power. Protecting species naturally puts the government at odds with landowners, however. The ESA effectively allows the government to determine how land can be used, even if it is on private land. As current estimates put the percentage of endangered species on private land at 90%, this conflict is somewhat inevitable. This became evident even as far back as 1978, when the American Farm Bureau voiced concerns that the ESA would give the federal government the ability to prefer the health of a species over the livelihood of a citizen.

One example of this occurred in 1990, when the spotted owl was listed as an endangered species. The government argued that the timber industry was killing its natural habitat, wiping out the species. After its listing, U.S. timber industry revenues decreased by nearly 90%, putting many out of business. Further researched revealed that the timber industry was not at fault; the real issue was the barred owl, who was eating all of the spotted owl’s natural food. Nonetheless, the damage to the timber industry remained.

Obama has recently paved the way for many similar abuses of the ESA by forcing the USFWS to list many new species under the ESA in the name of “clearing the backlog of cases.” Beginning in 2000, environmental groups began to flood the USFWS with requests for new additions to the ESA. Groups like the WildEarth Guardians have filed for over 1,230 plants and animals to be added to the list since 2007. Obama has agreed to analyze each and every request beginning May...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Outdoors; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: bhofascism; democrats; donttreadonme; ecofascism; emvirofascism; epa; esa; fraud; globalwarming; govtabuse; liberalfascism; liberals; lping; obama; propertyrights; tyranny; usfws
The power grab by the EPA continues.

Take this article and others I found to the fight to the Libs on their own turf; put the Left on the defensive at Digg and at Reddit and in Stumbleupon and Delicious

1 posted on 10/10/2011 9:51:33 AM PDT by 92nina
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To: 92nina

One little tidbit I rememeber is that it cost $50,000 to save one Californian Condor. Ridiculous!!


2 posted on 10/10/2011 10:19:53 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: 92nina

Assuming (actually, praying to God) that sanity will soon return to American government, the “Endangered Species Act” is only one of hundreds, if not thousands, of crappy laws that need to fall by the wayside.

Whenever politicians have so little to do that they engage in the kind of minutiae evidenced by the Endangered Species Act, it’s time for Congress to adjourn and for the Congresscritters to go home and get REAL jobs!!

(BTW, I expect the Congress to put itself on the Endangered Species Act any day now!)


3 posted on 10/10/2011 11:02:44 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: 92nina

Assuming (actually, praying to God) that sanity will soon return to American government, the “Endangered Species Act” is only one of hundreds, if not thousands, of crappy laws that need to fall by the wayside.

Whenever politicians have so little to do that they engage in the kind of minutiae evidenced by the Endangered Species Act, it’s time for Congress to adjourn and for the Congresscritters to go home and get REAL jobs!!

(BTW, I expect the Congress to put itself on the Endangered Species Act any day now!)


4 posted on 10/10/2011 11:03:41 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: 92nina

Assuming (actually, praying to God) that sanity will soon return to American government, the “Endangered Species Act” is only one of hundreds, if not thousands, of crappy laws that need to fall by the wayside.

Whenever politicians have so little to do that they engage in the kind of minutiae evidenced by the Endangered Species Act, it’s time for Congress to adjourn and for the Congresscritters to go home and get REAL jobs!!

(BTW, I expect the Congress to put itself on the Endangered Species Act any day now!)


5 posted on 10/10/2011 11:04:17 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: DustyMoment

1 - 2 - 3 Strikes and you’re out. You gotta fix that sticky key!


6 posted on 10/10/2011 11:50:02 AM PDT by SES1066 (Vote in 2012 for OUR CIVIL RIGHTS not the Left's!)
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To: 92nina

This is how the government grows. When the Endangered Species Act (ESA) was passed in 1973, everybody knew that it was for animals like the Bald Eagle and others that were visibly endangered. The problem is that it casts such a wide net that it is a prime tool of the Luddite community to shut down all development. I have no doubt that there are or will be claims to protect lichens and amoebas if they help stop something that someone does not want to be built or developed. Good intentions and all that ...


7 posted on 10/10/2011 11:58:21 AM PDT by SES1066 (Vote in 2012 for OUR CIVIL RIGHTS not the Left's!)
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To: 92nina
Here are some examples of ESA abuse, all chronicled in the last month:

After Gibson Raid, Other Guitar Makers at Risk of Breaking Law

It's ok to clear cut the forest...to protect an endangered butterfly

Judge's Sage Grouse Ruling Could Stall BLM Plans in Wyo., Idaho

Obama Administration Expanding Reach of Endangered Species Act to Hundreds of Plants, Animals

Angry federal judge rips 'false testimony' of federal scientists

GuitarGate: Three House Committee Chairs criticize Memphis and Nashville raids on Gibson Guitar

Killing barred owls to help spotted owls

$35M for Mice, Fairy Shrimp, Mussels, and Beetles

8 posted on 10/10/2011 1:49:33 PM PDT by cowpoke
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To: 92nina

Even on the simpsons they called it the, “reversal of freedoms act.”


9 posted on 10/10/2011 3:48:56 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: Carry_Okie

“In 1939, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Services (USFWS) was created for this purpose, and in 1973 the Endangered Species Act (ESA) was passed to augment its power.”

No mention of that treaty (whose name in not easy to remember and is not explicitly in your links here) under which provisions empowered the ESA’s provisions. A search of the article from which this thread starts does not mention treaty law either.

I’d imagine they could gain something from your collection of facts and evidence.


10 posted on 10/26/2011 11:26:48 AM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (How humanitarian are "leaders" who back Malthusian, Utilitarian & Green nutcases?)
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I’d imagine they could gain something from your collection of facts and evidence.

I'm only half joking here. If I had anything to say about it, James Hanson had best flee the country. I want him in jail, along with a host of others.

I'd hire Sheriff Joe as my sergeant at arms.

11 posted on 10/26/2011 11:49:45 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (At least I have the decency to kill my food before I eat it.)
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To: 92nina; Carry_Okie
Mr. Wahlen points to a timeline provided by the fish and wildlife service where they curiously left out a critical benchmark.

The year after the creation of the fish and wildlife service the following treaty was signed and ratified.
CONVENTION ON NATURE PROTECTION AND WILD LIFE PRESERVATION IN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE

Prior to the signing of this treaty, the federal government could not legitimately override property rights guaranteed under our US Constitution. They derived the power to pass the ESA and enforce it from the auspices of this treaty.

Carry_okie might be prevailed upon to provide you and Mr. Wahlen with more details.

12 posted on 10/26/2011 12:00:06 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (How humanitarian are "leaders" who back Malthusian, Utilitarian & Green nutcases?)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla; 92nina
This post excerpts the discussion of the Convention on Nature Protection in my first book, Natural Process: That Environmental Laws May Serve the Laws of Nature.

The first three articles on the Wildergarten.com Articles Page go into detail as to how the modern regulatory system gained its "legal" authority, its funding, and evolved from there.

13 posted on 10/26/2011 1:16:49 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (At least I have the decency to kill my food before I eat it.)
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