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Gunwalker: Issa reveals DEA involvement.
Pajamas Media ^ | 11 October, 2011 | Bob Owens

Posted on 10/11/2011 12:38:31 AM PDT by Watchdog85

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To: GunPkrBkr

At this juncture, we would be better served as a nation by an idiot like Biden as President than this crooked cabal!


51 posted on 10/11/2011 8:29:42 AM PDT by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: GunPkrBkr

What did 0bama know and when did he know it?


52 posted on 10/11/2011 8:34:38 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: GraceG
Gunwalker had better be mentioned in the next debate.

It won't be brought up by the main stram press, ever.

However when they ask the inane questions everyone is already very sick of ("mormonism," "evolution," the Bible, the Pope, etc.), it would be great if they would just turn it around with something like:

"With all due respect, let's get away from these peripheral insignificant issues, and turn to more substantive things like "Did this administration supply the weapons that killed Border Agents Jaime Zapata and Brian Terry and a hundred Mexican citizens, and how would you handle the current investigation?"

53 posted on 10/11/2011 8:38:54 AM PDT by cookcounty (2012 choice: It's the Tea Party or the Slumber Party.)
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To: cookcounty

[ However when they ask the inane questions everyone is already very sick of (”mormonism,” “evolution,” the Bible, the Pope, etc.), it would be great if they would just turn it around with something like:

“With all due respect, let’s get away from these peripheral insignificant issues, and turn to more substantive things like “Did this administration supply the weapons that killed Border Agents Jaime Zapata and Brian Terry and a hundred Mexican citizens, and how would you handle the current investigation?” ]

If any of the GOP Candidates responded to an inane question with this response, I think I would faint (in a good way).


54 posted on 10/11/2011 8:56:23 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: mojitojoe

Amazing document from DOJ and Holder’s speech there.

1. The Conference is called “The Mexico/United States Arms Trafficking Conference.”

2. He notes it’s his first trip outside the US as AG (subtext: “this is important to me”).

3. Holder says he’s focused on the single issue of going after the cartels.

4.The topic of cross-border arms trafficking “could not be more important.”

5, The AG says the centerpiece of this important strategy centers around an augmentation of Project Gunrunner.

6. Holder says the Obama administration has launched a “major new effort” involving 100 new ATF people focused on the SW border, as well as resources from the DEA and the FBI.

...but he never heard of the details of the “major new effort” until April of this year....

Oh my,either he’s lying or he is stupid. Make that deeply stupid.


55 posted on 10/11/2011 8:58:38 AM PDT by cookcounty (2012 choice: It's the Tea Party or the Slumber Party.)
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To: justa-hairyape
Somebody gots some 'splainin to do. From (note the date) http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2010/12/152775.htm

SECRETARY CLINTON: I also want to commend Foreign Secretary Espinosa for the excellent leadership that she and Mexico provided for the recently concluded Cancun Climate Conference. This was a very significant outcome, and it will be important going forward to build on the work and agreement that was reached in Cancun, and it validates the international approach towards solving these very significant global problems. So I really want to express my admiration and gratitude to her.

As Minister Cannon just summarized, the three of us had a very productive discussion today across a wide range of issues, and I want to say first and foremost that the partnership between Canada, Mexico, and the United States is of critical importance. To each of our countries, it goes without saying: We’re not only neighbors, but we bear leadership responsibilities and we care deeply about our neighbors and the global community as a whole.

The work we do together every day – whether it is to drive economic progress, or strengthen our security, or address urgent problems such as climate change or violent extremism in places like Afghanistan, or narco-traffickers or pandemic disease – has a profound impact on every level: locally, regionally, and globally. No partnership means more to the United States or to the hundreds of millions of North American citizens whose lives and futures are increasingly intertwined.

So I appreciate once again this opportunity to affirm and deepen our ties. We have a very robust, comprehensive agenda that we’re working on together that we will be following up on, and I look forward to continue working closely with my North American counterparts to achieve a safer, more secure, and more prosperous North America region and world

FOREIGN SECRETARY ESPINOSA: ...The transnational nature of organized crime also makes it necessary for us to cooperate based on the principle of joint responsibility involving agents that are beyond our borders.

Either Hillary is lying to Espinosa and exhibiting a grandiose condescension to the Mexican people or Hillary and Espinosa are complicit in this anti-gun scam as a means to gaining tighter control of the 'region' in the future North American Union.

56 posted on 10/11/2011 8:59:38 AM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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To: MurrietaMadman

Holder Lied, Mexicans Died.


57 posted on 10/11/2011 10:12:27 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Lurker

Never mind the 200+ life sentences waiting for them afterwards when they’re extradited to Mexico.


58 posted on 10/11/2011 10:28:48 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Cheerio

Yes, Impeachment would only bring out the NBP to join the OWS idiots, making it worse.

Holder should have been busted for the NBP voter intimidation crime.

Letting Clinton skate for his crimes has just set this country up for some messy solutions to it’s corruption problems.


59 posted on 10/11/2011 10:36:05 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Cheerio

Yes, Impeachment would only bring out the NBP to join the OWS idiots, making it worse.

Holder should have been busted for the NBP voter intimidation crime.

Letting Clinton skate for his crimes has just set this country up for some messy solutions to it’s corruption problems.


60 posted on 10/11/2011 10:36:14 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: StonyBurk

Zero must have a LOT of control over the USSC. Either he does, or his handlers do. Roberts and company are afraid of him.


61 posted on 10/11/2011 10:39:24 AM PDT by CPO retired
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To: MurrietaMadman

I predicted that Mexico would NOT be screaming in outrage about this killing of their citizens. Possible a few muted words of criticism, but not much more. They’re in on it too. Disarming Americans is worth killing some of their own people.


62 posted on 10/11/2011 10:51:13 AM PDT by CPO retired
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To: StonyBurk
What does SCOTUS have to do with this?
63 posted on 10/11/2011 12:09:53 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: CPO retired

Your prediction is proving out, isn’t it? F&F outrage could put a hurt on their NAU plans if US shared your gut feelings. Best to you.


64 posted on 10/11/2011 12:12:11 PM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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To: GraceG
Holder Lied, Mexicans Died.

Hold that thought as the circle of responsibility grows ever wider. Right over the border, even.

65 posted on 10/11/2011 12:24:51 PM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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To: Watchdog85

Soon to be heard from Sara Brady

Expressing outrage

Oh wait what are the deaths of a couple hundred Mexicans when you can get a gun ban in the USA


66 posted on 10/11/2011 12:37:37 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Watchdog85

I am STILL waiting for them to blow the roof off the amount of involvement of the FBI.

If you think that the plot thickens with DEA .. your gonna be able to stand a knife up in the thickness of their involvement. They were the puppet masters of the whole thing within the LEO’s.

Who do you think cleared every sale? ATF?? nope .. it was the FBI.

Who do you think was working the informants? ATF?? Mope again, it was FBI

Who do you think that the Holder Administration laid this plan on initially?? ATF? ummm .. nope again .. FBI


67 posted on 10/11/2011 12:37:47 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: CPO retired

Actually I saw where their state department was furious over this. I couldn’t believe the rant that they gave. It was scathing against Obama and the united states

But it was only brought out once.

I don;t think that they are so uncaring as being silenced about it. They don’t have the political spin machine built to get the word out as well as Obama.

They have demanded that anyone found that was involved be sent to Mexico for trial. They don’t particularly care if it was a political appointee or not.


68 posted on 10/11/2011 12:41:47 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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Surprise, Surprise! (NOT!)



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69 posted on 10/11/2011 3:28:54 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: MurrietaMadman
The Mexican government probably assumes that gun control for Americans is also gun control for the millions of Mexican citizens living within the US. So not surprising that they would support this operation under the table. There also also historical precedents concerning working relationships between specific drug cartels and the Mexican government.
70 posted on 10/11/2011 3:56:53 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: blackdog
No doubt the RINO/DINO cabal is hooked into this in a big way. They are all Globalist and disarming US citizens is one of their top goals. The Clintons are like the Bush's. They hide their globalism and wrap themselves in the flag. Obama is now holding his Globalism up to the light, but calls it Marxism.

The three major planks of crony globalism seems to be open borders, gun control and AGW. They appear to want a return of the Global Dark Ages. When Danish Vikings and Islamic Pirates ruled the Seas.

71 posted on 10/11/2011 4:06:51 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Watchdog85
more than 200 Mexican citizens have been killed with Fast and Furious weapons, referred to the Obama administration plot as “an attack on Mexicans’ security.”

Will La Raza protest Obama and Hillary ?

72 posted on 10/11/2011 4:22:08 PM PDT by csvset
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To: SueRae
Issa is pulling no punches but damn, those wheels of justice turn frustratingly slow.

"Though the mills of God grind slowly, yet they grind exceeding small;

"Though with patience he stands waiting, with exactness grinds he all." - Longfellow

73 posted on 10/11/2011 4:40:52 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Barack suffers from ADD -- "Additional Deficit Disorder".)
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To: bamahead

Thanks


75 posted on 10/11/2011 7:24:04 PM PDT by GOPJ (Where is the headline that says: Obama Murders Hundreds of Mexicans! - freeper xzins)
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To: vette6387
Unfortunately for the Department of Justice, the higher level of collusion between different federal law enforcement agencies that report to the attorney general make it even more unlikely that Eric Holder and other senior DOJ personnel were unaware of the real goal of the operation.

In short, Holder's lying. Lots of agencies involved means it was a BIG operation...

The drill: - first people to come forward get the best deals...

76 posted on 10/11/2011 7:32:15 PM PDT by GOPJ (Where is the headline that says: Obama Murders Hundreds of Mexicans! - freeper xzins)
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To: blackdog
...Might want to add the UN, the World Court, the rest of the world socialists that Clinton's been “socializing” with as SoS...
77 posted on 10/11/2011 7:56:02 PM PDT by gargoyle (...it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them...)
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To: Lurker

Nope. More like ONE battalion (three 200-man rifle companies plus H&S/weapons Co.)... but still significant firepower!


78 posted on 10/11/2011 9:30:12 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE!!!)
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To: Watchdog85; M Kehoe; Bob Ireland; mcmuffin

Ping .................... FRegards


79 posted on 10/11/2011 9:52:19 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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To: Munz
Actually I saw where their state department was furious over this.

I've been looking for the outrage but all the recent reaction I could find from the Mexican Foriegn Minister was from http://newish.info/28808-mexico-rejects-any-arms-smuggling-operation-from-the-united-states

It sounds lukewarm at best, in my opinion, for a reaction to what some call an international act of aggression...

Rome, 5 Oct (Notimex) .- The government of Mexico does not accept or have accepted, becoming aware, any operation involving transfer of arms from the United States or another country, Mexican Foreign Minister said today Patricia Espinosa.

“We have no official information on this topic, but I would say very strongly that in no way the government of Mexico would accept or had accepted, becoming aware, any operation involving the transfer of weapons,” he said.

Espinosa referred to the version published by the American press, that in addition to the operational “Fast and Furious” there was one called “Open Receiver” between 2006 and 2007 also allowed the illegal entry of weapons into Mexico.

“These are illegal activities that reject, condemn and will continue to fight with all the force of the State,” said the official involved in the V Conference Italy-Latin America and the Caribbean began on Wednesday at the headquarters of the Italian Foreign Ministry...

On the other hand, the Mexican Senate and the President of it's public safety committee, Felipe Gonzales and Mexico's Attorney General, Marisela Morales hold a more stern opinion as reported by Sipsey Street Irregulars.

But that's to be expected since they, the Mexican Senate and AG, are maintaining, as our politicians and bureaucrats do, a Nationalist pretense.

All the NAU machinations are accomplished and cloaked by the Canadian, Mexican and US State Department's. I expect the Mexican people will be just as surprised as the Canadian and US citizens will be when the NAU is announced. They may even be happier, thinking that anything would be better than what they have been subject to.

But they'd be wrong.

80 posted on 10/11/2011 10:30:38 PM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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To: Ken H

IF Congress ever decides to IMPEACH. There will —or ought be legal cases to try the individuals IMPEACHED. Criminal trials. IF there are trials of any of the individuals I am convinced that the ACLU, and their umbrella groups, will insist upon such legal cases be pushed to SCOTUS. This is thinking beyond what has happened or even what ought happen to the results of any hoped for independent investigation.
For the present -you are very right—the politicized Court has nothing to do with the process-they are the vultures in the trees.


81 posted on 10/12/2011 7:58:19 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: CPO retired

I think you call it about as I would. I am yet hopeful that Roberts was giving cover to an allum -on what he deemed
either unimportant— or futile. (the eligibility issue) I do suspect the Court cannot be happy with the 0 for his contempt
and in that I find a slim hope that the Court may not continue to defer to the Executive ,and I pray they will honor the OATH administered and defend the Constitution —not the man in the Oval Office.


82 posted on 10/12/2011 8:03:55 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: CPO retired

I think you call it about as I would. I am yet hopeful that Roberts was giving cover to an allum -on what he deemed
either unimportant— or futile. (the eligibility issue) I do suspect the Court cannot be happy with the 0 for his contempt
and in that I find a slim hope that the Court may not continue to defer to the Executive ,and I pray they will honor the OATH administered and defend the Constitution —not the man in the Oval Office.


83 posted on 10/12/2011 8:04:29 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Watchdog85
Gunwalker: Issa reveals DEA involvement.

wow...what a shock!

/s

84 posted on 10/12/2011 8:07:49 AM PDT by wardaddy (we have entered whatever land here on FR..maybe we will find our bearing again some day)
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To: MurrietaMadman

What I saw was a video interview that had been translated. Their government spokesman was Irate.

I mean IRATE.

If I can find it I will be sure to get it to you. It may take me time though. As I said, I haven;t heard anything else on it, i think it is more a political silencing than anything between Obama and mexico. he didn’t want their anger spilling out against him.

They must have made some deal.


85 posted on 10/12/2011 12:00:13 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz

Thanks, I’d like to see it.

I think your suspicions about a deal are well founded. Maybe they were reminded about the untold wealth that awaits those enlightened enough to be patient.


86 posted on 10/12/2011 1:56:17 PM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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To: MurrietaMadman

http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2011/07/05/mexico-prosecute-obama-officials/

one link there as well.


87 posted on 10/12/2011 2:41:58 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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