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http://annem040359.wordpress.com/ ^ | October 11,2011 | annem040359

Posted on 10/11/2011 4:55:46 AM PDT by Biggirl

While watching the video of a group of “Occupy Atlanta” this past Saturday that instead I was watching instead something from out of a “Star Trek” tv episode and it is those feared aliens, “The Borg”. While USA House of Representatives John Lewis, (D/GA) was in attendance with members of the MSM or news media. Rep. Lewis, who was active in the American civil rights movement and is involved in liberal politics. What Rep. Lewis with MSM had seen was nothing short than shocking. It was even SHOCKING for me to even watch this video. These people were not speaking what was all on their minds, as individuals, but were acting like one BIG COLLECTIVE.

This confirms that what we are dealing with is not Americans with concerns about the course of the direction the United States is heading, with each passing day these protests are being shown for what they are, a reminder that the efforts of the Democrats and liberals to copy the success of the tea party movement has not only FAILED but is NOW BACKFIRING in their faces BIGTIME.

Give Herman Cain CREDIT, he is right about the Occupy Wall Street protests.


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Is this "Occupy Atlanta" or the "The Borg" of "Star Trek?"
1 posted on 10/11/2011 4:55:50 AM PDT by Biggirl
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Videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QZlp3eGMNI&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxQHys4Tmf4&feature=player_embedded

“What we saw at the “revolution”:

Many curious citizens and media outlets came to the first Occupy Atlanta event, and were visible shocked and confused by the consistent Marxism employed by the group. People abandoned their individuality and liberty to be absorbed into a hypnotizing collective. The facilitator made it clear that he was not a “leader” and that everyone was completely equal; words often spoken by leftists, but in this case they actually applied their philosophy. Into this surreal and oppressive environment, Rep. John Lewis, a civil rights hero and icon of American leftism, came to speak as has so often done at left-wing rallies and events in Atlanta. He is practically worshiped in Democrat circles, and was visibly stunned to see these Marxists turn him away. It was reminiscent of previous Marxist revolutions in history when those who ignorantly supported the revolutionaries are, over time, purged and rejected for the “good of the collective”, when their usefulness has expired.”

“Fox News correspondent Geraldo Rivera attempted to report from the Occupy Wall Street protests in Lower Manhattan today but was forced to abort the broadcast after a throng of demonstrators led a rally of anti-Fox jeers. The incident was caught on camera by RT’s Lucy Kafanov.”


2 posted on 10/11/2011 4:58:57 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

As late as 10 years ago these ‘protesters’ would have been portrayed as loving caring liberals, all joined in spirit for “the common good”.

And the presstitutes would have shown only the coherent, photogenic ones and made it look like they were all on the same page or a great movement.

But thanks the the Internet and FOX News we are seeing them for what they realy are- a bunch of useful idiots.

But I think there is more that is NOT being said- WHO IS ORGANIZING THIS AND PAYING THESE MORONS?


3 posted on 10/11/2011 5:02:55 AM PDT by Mr. K (Sarah you broke my heart~!! Endorse Cain and all is forgiven)
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To: Biggirl

Has dating issues...

4 posted on 10/11/2011 5:04:19 AM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Biggirl

The weird echo chant isn’t only happening in Atlanta. I’ve seen it popping up among these nutjobs a lot lately.


5 posted on 10/11/2011 5:05:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (ALCS/NLCS playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2789907/posts)
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To: Biggirl

Conservatives believe in individual right.

Liberals believe in collective rights.

It’s just on display for all to see.


6 posted on 10/11/2011 5:12:53 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Cain for President - Because I like the content of his character)
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To: cripplecreek; Biggirl; CodeToad; Squantos; archy
I think the echo chant serves a few purposes. First of all, it allows a band of usurpers to hijack a large gathering simply by dint of control of the sound and the sight. Not only Lewis was shut out, but others who tried to speak up independently were shut down and blocked, audibly and visibly. The bullhorn dude yells, "Mike Check!" and his urgency is transmitted to the drones, who all yell back "Mike Check!" This goes back and forth, with angry arm waving, until the unwanted individual is silenced and pushed out by mass hostility directed at him.

Even 100 morons versed in the game can take over a group. Nobody else has the "stage" or the bull horn or the ready plan to control the speech.

The bearded bullhorn guy had on a red t-shirt with the old SDS black fist logo, but with two fingers up like a peace or victory sign. Anybody known his group? There were several "wardens" in the crowd in red shirts. They were visually watching the leaders and exchanging overhead hand signals, like across-crowd semaphore. So even in a loud, unruly environment, the crowd is managed in a controlled way by the leadership via the "wardens."

There was even a big dude in a t-shirt that literally said, "Union Thug" like he was proud of it. He moved around with a red-shirt dude to get in the face of anybody from out of the group who wanted to speek.

This was all about the control of speech. It's their blueprint for crowd control. Not sure if it works at any other level.

7 posted on 10/11/2011 5:24:20 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Conservatives believe in individual right.

The Founding Fathers believed in and fought
with all their might for individual rights.

Tea Party Patriots also.

...and thus one can see the disconnect that
has taken place.


8 posted on 10/11/2011 5:26:27 AM PDT by wita
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To: Erik Latranyi
I saw something on TV about U.S. history and was surprised to learn that Texas has no zoning laws. That was refreshing to me. I've always hated them and refused to buy property in places with restrictive covenants etc. The result is an enormous diversity of archetecture, styles, living arrangements, etc., and it stands in stark contrast to the conformity demanded by Leftists in their enclaves as they proclaim diversity.

The Left IS everything that it claims to denounce. It's Orwellian.

9 posted on 10/11/2011 5:27:15 AM PDT by Savage Beast (America's best hope is the Left's worst nightmare: Herman Cain!)
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To: Biggirl

These people are the lowest of the low. Get out of America.


10 posted on 10/11/2011 5:29:33 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Savage Beast

I think it is only Houston that has no zoning laws.


11 posted on 10/11/2011 5:34:03 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: Biggirl
The Left IS everything that it claims to denounce.

This is due in large measure to sloppy and lazy thinking and an absence of honest self-evaluation and self-awareness, but, in addition, Leftists tend to lack the strong internal moral compass that guides the rest of us, and, needing instead external pressure to guide themselves and control their baser impulses, they think that everyone needs it.

12 posted on 10/11/2011 5:35:30 AM PDT by Savage Beast (America's best hope is the Left's worst nightmare: Herman Cain!)
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To: Savage Beast
The Left IS everything that it claims to denounce. It's Orwellian.

Liberals require conformity to their current set of beliefs (it is a moving target).

If you do not conform, you will be destroyed. Examples:

Former Dems like Joe Lieberman, Zell Miller, Ed Koch, etc

Black conservatives like Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, JC Watts, etc

13 posted on 10/11/2011 5:44:06 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Cain for President - Because I like the content of his character)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“.....Liberals believe in collective rights......”

“People who need people are the luckiest people in the World” BS

Puke!


14 posted on 10/11/2011 5:46:33 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: squarebarb
Maybe it's only Houston. But I have lived in places where they are few or non-existant, and I liked it much better than places in which conformity is demanded.

In old cities, that pre-date zoning laws, mansions exist side-by-side with shacks--the poor with the rich--minority types with majority types--etc.

In conformist communities, everything and everyone tends to have an oppressive, boring sameness, including archetecture.

When I bought my present home--in The Middle of Nowhere--I made sure that I had enough land surrounding my family and me to protect us from this kind of oppression, and I refused all binding covenants (except that I--reluctantly--agreed not to establish a trailor park on the property, not that I had any intention of doing that, which is why I finally agreed).

Look at Leftist enclaves. They DEMAND CONFORMITY! In every way. Just as they preach "diversity".

Leftists love to proclaim themselves "liberal". They are the opposite. Their thinking is as sloppy and lazy as their morality. What they mistake for "liberalism" is iconoclasm; it has nothing to do with liberalism, open-mindedness, freedom of thought or opinion, or the free exchange of ideas.

The basic evil behind Decadence and the Left is mendacity. They cannot be truthful. If they were, they could not be Leftists.

In this respect--and some others as well--The Left is like a religion. It starts with conclusions and makes everything else fit them.

15 posted on 10/11/2011 5:54:23 AM PDT by Savage Beast (America's best hope is the Left's worst nightmare: Herman Cain!)
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To: Biggirl
“Fox News correspondent Geraldo Rivera attempted to report from the Occupy Wall Street protests in Lower Manhattan today but was forced to abort the broadcast after a throng of demonstrators led a rally of anti-Fox jeers. ..."

Idiots. Didn't they realize Whorealdo is on their side?

16 posted on 10/11/2011 6:18:15 AM PDT by digger48
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To: Biggirl

Their problem is, they have NEVER had anything better to do than stand on a street corner and hold a sign, that’s their problem. They sure as hell don’t represent 99% of anything; THEY are 100% of THEIR problem.

Trying to blame their disappointing world that missed their expectations on accomplished, successful professional risk-takers whose efforts paid off for them is clearly nothing but class envy and certainly not new. LOSERS YESTERDAY, TODAY, AND FOR ALL TOMORROWS.


17 posted on 10/11/2011 6:36:04 AM PDT by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
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To: Travis McGee

There is a new SDS movement afoot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Students_for_a_Democratic_Society_%282006_organization%29


18 posted on 10/11/2011 6:44:24 AM PDT by randita (Obama - chains you can bereave in.)
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To: Biggirl

The Borg in Star Trek is the Left taken to an extreme just like the former Soviet Union, China in the recent past, North Korea, and even Islam. And whatever the Borg touches they destroy - the environment, people, economies, etc. Leftism is feminine in nature and who runs the Borg? The Borg queen. And what was one of the first things that helped to bring the Borg down? Spreading the concept of individuality which is masculine by nature. Ultimately it took a good and balanced woman to destroy the evil, twisted and unbalanced woman.


19 posted on 10/11/2011 6:53:08 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Savage Beast

How to start a business in Houston:

1. Print up business cards.
2. Pass them out.
3. You may choose to get a 40.00 sign to hang in your yard.

That’s it.

It really is the center of the Capitalist Universe.


20 posted on 10/11/2011 6:55:27 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Found some info about the Borg:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg_(Star_Trek)


21 posted on 10/11/2011 7:08:16 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

I laughed my butt off when they turned Whorealdo away. He must still be in shock. LOL!!!


22 posted on 10/11/2011 7:14:06 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: cripplecreek

Kind of reminds me of the mob in Rome. Thumbs up and the christian lived, thumbs down and well you know.


23 posted on 10/11/2011 7:21:14 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Travis McGee

I think it works at all levels. I saw what you described, including the semaphore communication and it is thought control. You cannot evaluate any content when you must repeat everything verbatim, in unison. Repetition internalizes the content and the act of repetition internalizes obedience. Note that the finger language allows the repetition to continue without being overcome by shouted cheers or boos. Also note the leader saying “This is not a vote”, just ‘opinion’. But the goal was the appearance of consensus, so ‘opinion’ was coerced and then treated as a a ‘vote’.

Very effective. At some point, someone on the podium will yell “Get them” and a rabid crowd will surge to obey.


24 posted on 10/11/2011 8:02:23 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Biggirl

Anything in particular you want to point me toward?


25 posted on 10/11/2011 8:47:36 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Travis McGee

It’s a variation on The Delphi Technique.


26 posted on 10/11/2011 9:14:15 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

About the Borg and Borg Queen.


27 posted on 10/11/2011 9:22:00 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Travis McGee
The bearded bullhorn guy had on a red t-shirt with the old SDS black fist logo, but with two fingers up like a peace or victory sign. Anybody known his group?

I would strongly suspect he's more likely to be allied with this group:

Than with this one:


28 posted on 10/11/2011 11:39:31 AM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: Travis McGee
This was all about the control of speech. It's their blueprint for crowd control. Not sure if it works at any other level.

The group chants are new, but otherwise this is just another application of the Delphi method for artificially manufacturing a consensus.

29 posted on 10/11/2011 11:53:45 AM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: archy

The fingers were split in a V, atop the angry SDS fist.


30 posted on 10/11/2011 12:24:29 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: reformedliberal

I never saw anything like it. It acted like a cell reacting with defensive measures to an invading bacteria. No single person stands a chance of shouting the loonies and the bullhorn down. Very effective at the 100s to low thousands in terms of crowd sizes. Not sure how it scales up past that.


31 posted on 10/11/2011 12:32:49 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Well, notice that they are composed of thousands of small crowds in separate venues. We laugh at a few hundred in each place or even an afternoon march of a thousand or so, but if they are organized in this manner into manageable groups, (think squads, platoons), then the venue is controlled via orchestrated group think. With phones, services like Skype, and the Internet, they stay in contact and further coordinate. Who knows what texts are being exchanged between them, even within the smaller groups? They are all glued to phones 24/7.

They are also receiving credit card donations from all over the world. Foreign supporters are ordering take out for them, via credit card. This is sustainable. They really are citizens of the world, in practice.

Your defensive cell analogy is on target, IMO. You can pick them off individually, but as a whole, they are quite vital.


32 posted on 10/11/2011 12:53:09 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal
Yes, they become self-supporting financially, as soon as they have an Internet media presence with a website to collect donations. Interesting, that's really something new. They could be there for a LONG time, while the MSM portrays them as "Mother Teresas at Valley Forge."
33 posted on 10/11/2011 1:02:42 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
I think the echo chant serves a few purposes

Me too. It saves them the effort of having to think about what they're going to say. And that's a fact, Jack!

34 posted on 10/11/2011 1:09:35 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: Interesting Times

I thought of that, too. But it is an evolution of Delphi.

You can organize against Delphi with forethought by infiltrating numerous dissenters into the group, making sure to stay separate and not indicate any connections, asking questions and then, when the questioning person is delphied out by the facilitator, the other dissenters begin to calmly request the first dissenter be allowed to speak. But, with only finger language recognized, that won’t really be effective.

The break out Working Groups are also Delphi and another way to sideline or render ineffective any rising dissenter leader.

A lot of thought, organization and training is evident in this entire Occupy exercise. They are serious and this is only a first step. We criticize the logical fallacies, the lack of workable plans, but this is the cover for the more violent actions and disruptions. I wonder if the filth, violation of societal norms in elimination and licentiousness are a bonding element? It is very primal and they enjoy the shock aspect.

If a hard core remains over the winter, the experience will toughen that portion of the group, furthering a bonding among them. Support actions will develop and the winter campers will become respected. It sort of reminds me of some of the more extreme tree sitter scenes, where people stayed in trees for months on end.

Remember, everyone laughed at the Movement of the 60s/70s and today, the members of the Weather Underground are people in high positions of political power. Occupy will become a recruiting venue for the next generation of such leaders.


35 posted on 10/11/2011 1:22:55 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Travis McGee

Exactly my thought.

Further, to your defensive cell theory,they are setting up *antibodies* to anyone attempting to rationally show them their errors. It doesn’t take long for people, especially young ones, in a stressful situation with enough rewards thrown in, to become immediately able to identify ‘the other’.

With multiple separated venues, they can even afford to lose an entire group, here and there, such as being thrown off the Greenway in Boston. Trashing their possessions is being made to look ‘mean’ by the media. Not yet a ‘police riot’, but another brick in the wall separating *us* and *them*. Those of us on the outside likely have no clue as to the thought processes and emotional alliances being generated here.


36 posted on 10/11/2011 1:33:49 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal
Desensitizing recruits in various ways is an important element, especially if they hope to create (or enlarge) a cadre that is willing to commit violence. Remember the Weathermen's "smash monogany" program?

[The Weather Underground] initiated a 'smash monogamy' campaign to destroy bourgeois sexual hang-ups: Once monogamy was smashed, couples who in some cases had been together for years were harangued until they admitted their 'political errors' and split apart. "The next logical step was group sex. One of the last taboos was homosexuality, and the Weather command forced itself toward experimentation in this direction, instructing male and female cadres to 'make it' with members of the same sex.

From Destructive Generation, Horowitz and Collier, 1989.

37 posted on 10/11/2011 1:33:49 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Interesting Times

Yes. Combine that with a winter occupation and all the physical toughness that entails and you also have something analogous to the SEALS Hell Week. Add drugs and you have the possibility of berserker behavior. Imagine being able to direct such outbursts.

The world sees chaos, but this is highly disciplined at the upper levels. Also, I am thinking of how many of these kids are into multi-player online games. People can laugh, but they learn tactics and strategy there, as well as coordinating actions with others. Some of those gamers have even developed sideline businesses selling various game trophies/powers/spells in the real world, for real money. They aren’t all stupid or ignorant.


38 posted on 10/11/2011 1:46:40 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

I’m trying to think of antidotes in the here and now that might work to disrupt or short circuit their chants, megaphone and semaphore signals to wardens. Critical to recon the entire crowd, and locate the overt wardens, and the covert (deniable) enforcers they interface with. If you had a crowd of your own, you could disrupt them with repeated shouts of, “Mike Check!”. There must be cameras upon cameras, to catch and physical altercations instigated by the Marxist thugs. Cameras upon cameras, because they will start to smack/attack/knock/spray any “hostile” cameras or phones they see poised as cameras. (This was done in Albuquerque street riots last weekend. Very critical to film the bad behavior by them.


40 posted on 10/11/2011 4:17:41 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: reformedliberal

Only a handful of hard core need spend any winter nights in camp. 3 or 4 will do, rotating duty for once a week or so. NOt exactly Valley FOrge, but that is how hte MSM shall portray them: saintly patriots at a new Valley Forge.


41 posted on 10/11/2011 4:19:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: reformedliberal

I predict the cold weather and Christmas coming will wane people’s interest and they’ll just disperse.


42 posted on 10/11/2011 4:38:25 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Romney as president will just destroy the country slower than Obama.)
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To: Travis McGee

Simultaneous shouts of “Mic Check” from various positions, in sequence, co-ordinated via phone texts?

Isn’t it interesting that in the Nanny City, there are roll-your-own tobacco tables (I saw a pack of ready-mades in one shot), flagrant pot and tobacco smoking, all sorts of trans fats and salty foods, public elimination and sex and nary a cop or a Health Department type in sight?

How many people are just cruising through for a smoke break, a toke or a snack? I don’t just mean street people, either.


43 posted on 10/11/2011 4:44:02 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Travis McGee

I think they need at least a few dozen. They will need to watch their backs. You can’t forge a cadre from 3-4 people, either. I can see rotating a few dozen in and out at a time, though.

It’ll be hard, because no open fires are allowed. I wonder if they will get away w/propane catalytic heaters?

It may come down to their dedication vs. that of the cops. Or zer0’s poll numbers.


44 posted on 10/11/2011 4:49:56 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Travis McGee

Under the words “Union Thug” in smaller letters was “Teamsters Helping Unions Grow “.


45 posted on 10/11/2011 4:56:30 PM PDT by Atlantan
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To: Atlantan

T.H.U.G.
Classic thug humor. “Laugh while we smash your head.”


46 posted on 10/11/2011 7:25:13 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
I’m trying to think of antidotes in the here and now that might work to disrupt or short circuit their chants, megaphone and semaphore signals to wardens. Critical to recon the entire crowd, and locate the overt wardens,

Disposable boat horns? Priced as low as a buck aopiece at my loace boatie supply, and noisy enough to cover most bullhorn chants. And fairly common around football season for the fans.


47 posted on 10/12/2011 2:54:47 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: reformedliberal
It’ll be hard, because no open fires are allowed. I wonder if they will get away w/propane catalytic heaters?

A little covert ethyl mercaptan/ethanethiol spill might help....

48 posted on 10/12/2011 3:02:46 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: Biggirl
That's nothing.

The new Occupy stories have to do with the idiot in LA saying they had to have blood and violence - and another group chanting about having sex with animals.

These folks are funny - funny, pathetic, and veeeeery creepy...

49 posted on 10/12/2011 3:11:25 PM PDT by GOPJ (Occupy Wall Street Zombies Lastest Chant: “You Can Have Sex With Animals”)
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To: GOPJ

....As in both SICK and EVIL.


50 posted on 10/12/2011 3:14:36 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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