Posted on 10/11/2011 4:17:25 PM PDT by grapeape
I think that I may have stumbled onto a very large problem. I am working with a guy that says that he was a Marine and I am 99% sure that he isn't. He has got a really great story going and he has fooled a lot of people. I need a place to go to so that I can prove that he isn't a marine.
I can already proove several of his other stories are fabrications but this is the key. I have read online that is a rather big problem, especially for the Corps and the Seals. Can anyone tell me where to go to find out if this guy ever served?
Thanks for your help.
Kick him between the legs. If he goes down, he’s not a marine.
Tell the alleged “M”arine that it is now a felony to pretend to be a soldier or Marine when you arent.....
ANd just a clue.....ANYONE who readily claims to be a SEAL in everyday conversation, I can assure you, is NOT a SEAL!
Jonty, Jonty, Jonty!! I am guessing a real Marine would somehow “know” a kick was coming and block it. Seriously, I don’t even know if saying you are a Marine (and you aren’t) is a crime?
Ping
Simple, just ask him to recite The Rifleman’s Creed.
My own Brother was a viet Nam hero even though he got his General discharch in 1961. They are everywhere.
Do like Deniro in Ronin and ask him aggressively “what color is the boat house at Hereford?” and when he doesn’t answer go “AH-HA!! Fake!” ;)
I don’t think Stolen Valor will help with Marines, I thought they were SEAL advocates only, but their site may give you someplace to start.
That said, in my mind, this is a lose-lose situation. If he’s lying, and even if you can prove it, military service means less to some people than others. If you expose him, and he’s well-liked, you may find your peers view you as a busybody.
If you know without a doubt he’s faking, but he’s not wearing the uniform or using it to get benefits, your best bet may be to just file it away and relegate him to scum status in your dealings with him. If there’s even a shred of doubt, I’d advise you to be very cautious...Anything you say or do can backfire on you in a big way.
Marines aren’t psychic, but the human foot can’t dent balls of steel.
You can tell by my typos that I’m a real Marine.
Thought this was a very interesting topic and I did a little Yahoo search.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090830065233AASgslW
I didn’t read it in it’s entirety, but the best answer was to write to the National Archives and make a Freedom of Information Act Request for his military record. God throws us different places in life. There is no reason to pretend something like that.
For at least 5 years, this kind of false claim was a Felony —the Stolen Valor Act, or something.
However about 8 months ago the Supremes rules that such confabulation was simply a form of speach and as such, protected.
Sadly I think it also covers claims recording the MOH.
You can embarrass the living hell out of the guy, but I don’t think u can actually get him arrested anymore.
Don’t even sweat it... Eventually, bullshit artists try to bullshit the wrong guy and get their ass handed to them.
Just a friendly piece of advice, since you are obviously not a Marine... Tread lightly just in case he is.
Semper Fi,
NYleatherneck
Ask to see his DD214.
Give me the name of your preacher, and if he is a fake, if I dont go kick his arse, I know many who WILL!
Stolen Valor is INEXCUSABLE!!!!!!!Men and women are DYING for us, and some arsehole has the GALL to steal THEIR valor? SPIT! May they rot in HELL
Unless you can prove he used such a claim to commit fraud, like obtaining employment or benefits, there’s really nothing you can do. The Supreme Court found the Stolen Valor act a violation of free speech.
“I am working with a guy”
Besides the official information sources, if we knew more about just what “I am working with” means, we might be able to offer more meaningful examples of how to deal with him.
Ask him to move your desk. I’ve seen the fake ones are generally so fake, they couldn’t even pass a first day physical.
You are a hoot, Jonty30! LOL!
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