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Posted on 10/13/2011 12:40:06 PM PDT by Amerisrael

The daughter of a Mormon bishop who has abandoned her family's faith claims in a new book the election of Mitt Romney to the presidency would put the U.S. in danger due to what she calls the Republican's "outrageous," "horrific" and "mind-controlling" beliefs.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and his wife, Ann

"While he attempts to portray Mormonism as just another Christian religion, Mitt Romney counts on his skills to shift our attention away from what he truly believes," says Tricia Erickson, author of "Can Mitt Romney Serve Two Masters? The Mormon Church Versus the Office of the Presidency of the United States of America."

"If the American people knew what he truly believed, they would surely not place him in the highest office in the land."

Yet others, such as professor Richard Bushman, a Mormon and previous missionary himself who has taught at Harvard, Columbia and Brown Universities, are defending the faith. He calls Erickson "disillusioned" and someone who "instead of walking away felt an obligation to discredit [her] former faith."

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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the official name for Mormonism, has rocketed into the national consciousness this month since Rev. Robert Jeffress, a Rick Perry supporter who pastors the First Baptist Church of Dallas, Texas, said Romney was "not a Christian" and that Mormonism is a "cult."

"Part of a pastor's job is to warn his people and others about false religions," Jeffress said Sunday, standing by his controversial remarks. "Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism and Mormonism are all false religions."

Read more: Mormon bishop's daughter spills Romney's 'secrets' ... http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=354721#ixzz1agykErXn

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: cults; electiom; erickson; lds; mormonism; mormons; romney; romneytruthfile; slickmitt; triciaerickson

1 posted on 10/13/2011 12:40:10 PM PDT by Amerisrael
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To: Amerisrael

Wow. Spilled ‘em this morning, too:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2792112/posts

Did they spill twice or what?


2 posted on 10/13/2011 12:45:03 PM PDT by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: Amerisrael
Weird stuff
3 posted on 10/13/2011 12:46:14 PM PDT by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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To: Amerisrael

Second posting within a couple of hours.


4 posted on 10/13/2011 12:48:24 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Amerisrael

This is why I stopped readin WND a long time ago. They have the most outrageous reporting. It’s total garbage plain and simple. No serious person should get their info from WND.


5 posted on 10/13/2011 12:49:14 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: Amerisrael

I’m a Cain suporter, but this is just a smear. By the way, what does this authorette have to say about the Rev. Wright and the Illegal???


6 posted on 10/13/2011 12:49:31 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Amerisrael

Romney’s religion is not a factor in my vote.


7 posted on 10/13/2011 12:49:50 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: Amerisrael

Funny how she has no problem with Harry Reid. As far as me personally, I have a problem with Romney’s faith only because it’s the same as Harry Reid’s and I believe Reid to be downright evil.


8 posted on 10/13/2011 12:50:11 PM PDT by JudyM (JudyM)
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To: Amerisrael

Funny how she has no problem with Harry Reid. As far as me personally, I have a problem with Romney’s faith only because it’s the same as Harry Reid’s and I believe Reid to be downright evil.


9 posted on 10/13/2011 12:50:17 PM PDT by JudyM (JudyM)
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To: Amerisrael

WND is a scourge.


10 posted on 10/13/2011 12:50:17 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Amerisrael

Funny how she has no problem with Harry Reid. As far as me personally, I have a problem with Romney’s faith only because it’s the same as Harry Reid’s and I believe Reid to be downright evil.


11 posted on 10/13/2011 12:50:21 PM PDT by JudyM (JudyM)
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To: Amerisrael
I do not support Romney in the primaries for the GOP nomination. I support Herman Cain.

Having said that, this same issue was brought up when John Kennedy ran for President...could he exercise his role as a Catholic given the Catholic view of the Pope. He answered the question bac then.

Last election, in 2007, Romney answered this particular angle of attack as well in a speech about his faith.

In that speech he said, among other things:

"Given our grand tradition of religious tolerance and liberty, some wonder whether there are any questions regarding an aspiring candidate's religion that are appropriate. I believe there are. And I will answer them today.

"Almost 50 years ago another candidate from Massachusetts explained that he was an American running for president, not a Catholic running for president. Like him, I am an American running for president. I do not define my candidacy by my religion. A person should not be elected because of his faith nor should he be rejected because of his faith.

"Let me assure you that no authorities of my church, or of any other church for that matter, will ever exert influence on presidential decisions. Their authority is theirs, within the province of church affairs, and it ends where the affairs of the nation begin.

"As governor, I tried to do the right as best I knew it, serving the law and answering to the Constitution. I did not confuse the particular teachings of my church with the obligations of the office and of the Constitution - and of course, I would not do so as president. I will put no doctrine of any church above the plain duties of the office and the sovereign authority of the law.

You can find the full transcript of his speech HERE

12 posted on 10/13/2011 12:57:57 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Amerisrael

Could find someone to write the same trash about Catholicism.

Not a good post nor a good reason to not support Romney.


13 posted on 10/13/2011 12:59:26 PM PDT by arkady_renko (I want to believe.)
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To: All

http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s07e12-all-about-mormons


14 posted on 10/13/2011 12:59:50 PM PDT by troy McClure
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To: Amerisrael
As the real election season draws nearer , you can expect FR to be reduced to haters and religious bigots. Not to mention the obsessed and insane.
15 posted on 10/13/2011 1:01:51 PM PDT by fantom (,)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

wnd = world nut daily


16 posted on 10/13/2011 1:02:02 PM PDT by Perdogg (I will support any Republican candidate against 0bama in 2012)
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To: Amerisrael
Mr. Romney, do you wear the Mormon magic underpants? Are you wearing them now?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Hey they asked Clinton “boxer or briefs”

17 posted on 10/13/2011 1:03:13 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: libstripper
All things being equal, I would vote for a Mormon based on their religion just because they are the most conservative religious voting demographic in America and I would expect said culture to rub off on the nominee.

The three most heavily Mormon states in America (Utah, Idaho and Wyoming) have not awarded a single electoral vote to a Democrat since 1964. In fact, none of them have even come close. You can look it up.

There are maybe 4 or 5 other states which can make that same claim, none of them dominated by a single religious demographic.

But all things are not equal, and Cain is clearly way closer to my politics than anyone else in the race, with the possible exception of fading stars (like Bachmann) or never were stars (like Santorum).

18 posted on 10/13/2011 1:03:21 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: arkady_renko
Could find someone to write the same trash about Catholicism.

There is no shortage of them on this forum either. Much of their ranting and raving is so similar, you'd swear they are the same poster with different screen names.

19 posted on 10/13/2011 1:06:09 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Amerisrael

Romney is an amoral freakshow, but his mormonism has little or nothing to do with it.

His problem is he is a say-anything liar.


20 posted on 10/13/2011 1:07:45 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Amerisrael

I don’t like Romney; he talks a good game in the debates, but I don’t trust him for what he said to get elected in Massachusetts.

That said, this is disgusting. Romney’s religion disqualifies him from speaking in my church; in no way should it disqualify him from driving that Islamocommie trash from the White House.


21 posted on 10/13/2011 1:12:43 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Amerisrael
the election of Mitt Romney to the presidency would put the U.S. in danger due to what she calls the Republican's "outrageous," "horrific" and "mind-controlling" beliefs.


22 posted on 10/13/2011 1:13:04 PM PDT by McGruff (Still a member of Sarah's Army)
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To: Jeff Head

I hate this stuff. There are plenty of good reasons to oppose Romney but his religion should not be one of them. I think it’s downright unAmerican to attack a man’s faith.


23 posted on 10/13/2011 1:16:28 PM PDT by pgkdan (Hail to the Redskins!)
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To: pgkdan

“There are plenty of good reasons to oppose Romney but his religion should not be one of them.”

Definitely. It doesn’t appear that (while largely bad) his positions as governor weren’t driven by the spooky religion the toothless villagers attack him for; no reason to think they would be if he were President either (disclaimer: NOT a Romney supporter).


24 posted on 10/13/2011 1:27:45 PM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: troy McClure
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s07e12-all-about-mormons I watched the whole thing! Hilarious!
25 posted on 10/13/2011 1:29:02 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: truthguy

I gave up on WND long ago. They have a few interesting items but all they want is to sell books. IMO


26 posted on 10/13/2011 1:30:32 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (2012—They vote twice— we'll vote three times.)
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To: Amerisrael
Mormon Sites - rising from the dust... Finding Physical Evidences of Nephites in the Americas. Book of Mormon Geography Finding Book of Mormon Cities Everything on this website is Pro-LDS

So, what do Mormons believe, and should it help determine his qualification for the office of President of the United States?

Would I ask this question regardless of his faith...Islam, Buddist, Baptist, Catholic, etc.?

To answer my question, I searched "Mormon reading room," so I could read their own materials, and found "Mormon Sites--Rising From the Dust" to inform myself.

I found these readings consistant with what I found in the Mormon bookstore I visited while living in a Mormon community.

27 posted on 10/13/2011 1:39:35 PM PDT by WestwardHo
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To: faucetman
The boxers or briefs question was asked by a high school student who was a studio member on an MTV election special where Mr. Clinton was being interviewed. The shock was not that a stupid kid asked the question but that a serious candidate for the US Presidency answered it.

You questions demonstrates that your maturity level is about the same as the average high-school aged MTV viewer.

28 posted on 10/13/2011 1:42:35 PM PDT by dpa5923 (Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
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To: pgkdan

Religion should not prohibit someone from being legally allowed to run for any office.

Religion should absolutely be a basis of voting for or not for someone based on personal beliefs by individual voters.


29 posted on 10/13/2011 1:42:42 PM PDT by porter_knorr
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To: pgkdan
Just what was Dr. Jeffress supposed to say when asked about Romney's religion?

As he said it is his responsibility to warn people about false religions.

As for being unamerican, I live in an active duty military home and bleed RED WHITE and BLUE, an I agree with Dr. Jeffress.

30 posted on 10/13/2011 1:43:16 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Amerisrael
Just another attempt to stir the religious pot. Whiffff!
31 posted on 10/13/2011 1:46:24 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: Amerisrael

WOW! What evenhanded responses! I am duly heartened about the state of the freeper mind!


32 posted on 10/13/2011 1:47:02 PM PDT by dixjea (+------------------)
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To: pgkdan
"I think it's downright unAmerican to attack a man's faith."

Romney: "A person should not be elected because of his faith nor should he be rejected because of his faith."

I beg to differ ... I think what a candidate believes bears heavily on his suitability for the Presidency. No person should be rejected because of his faith? Does that include voodoo practitioners and Satan worshipers?

I think there is, however, a great lack of knowledge of Mormon beliefs. I think we need an objective exploration of what belief system Mormons embrace. I honestly can't claim to really understand it. Although in my case it's not really necessary - I think Romney is a slimy weasel, whatever he believes in, so in my case the point is moot.

As an example - I think it VERY relevant as to whether a candidate accepts the precepts of the Ten Commandments. Our entire legal system is derived from the Commandments and if a candidate refuses to accept the precepts of the Commandments, I see no possibility that he could effectively enforce our laws.

Now whether a candidate's religion corresponds with mine, or his manner of expressing his faith in the divine is different from mine - I couldn't care less. But this country is based on the concept of inalienable, God-given rights; it cannot be led by one who does not believe in a Supreme Being, IMHO.

33 posted on 10/13/2011 1:49:07 PM PDT by In Maryland ("If stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out?" - Mark Twain)
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To: Coldwater Creek

“Robert Jeffress, a Rick Perry supporter who pastors the First Baptist Church of Dallas, Texas, said Romney was “not a Christian” and that Mormonism is a “cult.”

“Part of a pastor’s job is to warn his people and others about false religions,” Jeffress said Sunday, standing by his controversial remarks. “Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism and Mormonism are all false religions.”

Jeffress has also said that Catholicism is a cult. Explain that one away.


35 posted on 10/13/2011 2:13:42 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: Amerisrael

I lived in Utah for two ears, while I think that the LDS faith is based on, at best Joseph Smith’s delusions, politically it is very conservative and I would have no problem with an LDS President.

That said, the two LDS candidates running both leave something to be desired.

John Huntsman was a somewhat conservative governor, with no national profile, who decided to veer to the middle when all the new ideas are coming from the conservative side. A non-starter.

Mitt Romney has no core political beliefs other than a vague tilt to the right, but will toss them overboard to get “something” done, or be seen as compassionate. That might work in a liberal state like Massachusetts, but will not work on a national basis. He would be the lesser of two evils if he faced Obama and is the best chance of Obama eking out a victory in 2012.

An echo will not fire up the base and win a turnout based election. A true conservative with ideas will.

That said, any of the Republican candidates is head an shoulders above Obama, who as one of what Thomas Sowell described as “The Annointed”, will continue to believe in the rightness of liberalism despite the social, political and economic carnage it leaves in it’s wake.


36 posted on 10/13/2011 2:18:09 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: Amerisrael
Never vote for a Mormon because they're a mind-control cult.

Never vote for a Muslim because they are all terrorists.

Never vote for a Hindu because they believe in reincarnation and actually want there to be more suffering in this life in order to advance further in the next.

Never vote for a Catholic because they will do the bidding of the Vatican.

Never vote for an atheist because they are all sociopathic nihilists.

Never vote for a Jew because they are all agents of the Israeli government.

Never vote for a mainstream protestant because they are all commies.

Never vote for an evangelical or born-again protestant because they want the rapture to happen soon and will do whatever it takes to get the ball rolling.

Never vote for an agnostic because they are unsociable and unwilling to sign-up with any of the other "cults".

/sarc

37 posted on 10/13/2011 2:27:14 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: fantom

all because we disagree with a faith system that is theologically vacant - puhleeze. They are anti Trinitarian, have created a second set of Scriptures, Baptize the dead and consider Christs Atonement to have occurred in the Garden, rather than the Cross - you will not find a Cross in a mormon Temple (ive been in Palmyra’s)….do we need to even bring up Smiths Kinderhook Plates, his reformed egyptian translations and polygamy - get real….hes a false prophet and we all know what the Bible says about that.

dont we?

This notion of many paths is deception and leads many astray

rev911/Pastor ret.


38 posted on 10/13/2011 2:42:21 PM PDT by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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To: flaglady47
Ya know! I have a terminal illness and many Catholics and Baptist and others on Free Republic are praying for me. I do not have the same opinion about them that I have about Mormon's. So I'm not going to get in a debate with you.
39 posted on 10/13/2011 2:59:52 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: flaglady47
Ya know! I have a terminal illness and many Catholics and Baptist and others on Free Republic are praying for me. I do not have the same opinion about them that I have about Mormon. So I'm not going to get in a debate with you.
40 posted on 10/13/2011 3:01:13 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: JudyM
Funny how she has no problem with Harry Reid.

I don't like Romney but I dislike media whores such as this "PATRICIA Erickson" even more. Google her background history with Crisis Management, Inc., Angel Pictures and Publicity, and especially The Erickson Agency.......

41 posted on 10/13/2011 3:32:53 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (ui)
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To: Amerisrael

There is enough substantial Conservative reasons to NOT support Romney. If someone wants and needs to NOT support Romney solely due to his religion, that’s their business. Personally, I don’t need it. I am sufficiently anti-Romney without it.


42 posted on 10/13/2011 4:04:26 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: In Maryland

Good points. Absolutely agree.


43 posted on 10/13/2011 9:29:02 PM PDT by Amerisrael (Palin/West 2012)
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