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Study finds one in 10 Texas 6th graders have had sex
Houston Chronicle ^ | 10.18.11

Posted on 10/18/2011 8:01:31 PM PDT by trumandogz

Children at Risk, a state policy advocate organization, published today a series of studies and articles on sex and teen pregnancy in Texas. Some of the results may shock you.

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1 posted on 10/18/2011 8:01:36 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

Nothing like robbing childhood. Our culture has made it a sport.


2 posted on 10/18/2011 8:04:39 PM PDT by Republic (SO-uhbama sought help from romney MA healthcare authors? DUMP ROMNEY, no way will he kill obamacare.)
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To: trumandogz

Surely a kid would never lie about having had sex when they actually haven’t.


3 posted on 10/18/2011 8:04:59 PM PDT by Lost Highway (I don't know what the world may need but a V8 engines a good start for me)
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To: Lost Highway

It is muy macho


4 posted on 10/18/2011 8:05:38 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I won't vote for Romney. I won't vote for Perry.)
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To: trumandogz
It looks like those sex ed classes are really taking off! It would have been a shame to have wasted all of those condoms and cucumbers. Well, the kids couldn't "read the articles" anyway. They can't read.

sarc/

5 posted on 10/18/2011 8:05:49 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Stop Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: trumandogz
I wonder if the kids mistook masturbating for sex? The survey also noted that of the sample, 10 out of 10 boys said yes, 0 out 10 girls said yes. You figure it out.
6 posted on 10/18/2011 8:07:28 PM PDT by festusbanjo (Herman Cain.The Un-Obama.Actual leadership,actual problem solving,actual experience.)
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To: trumandogz

When I was eleven (mid fifties), I didn’t even know what “sex” was. However, I had not been exposed to hour after hour of TV, TV obsessed with sex.


7 posted on 10/18/2011 8:08:01 PM PDT by doc1019 (You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.)
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To: trumandogz

A study of public education in general shows that 1 in 6 sixth graders are old enough to have sex.


8 posted on 10/18/2011 8:08:01 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Lost Highway

“Surely a kid would never lie”

When I was in grade school or high school, I lied to these surveys and encouraged others to do so. It was fun!


9 posted on 10/18/2011 8:08:10 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Republic; mylife
If the illegals and minorities were removed from the study, the numbers would be far better. Texas is a Conservative and strongly Christian state with deep moral values based on Biblical principles. I'd also surmise that influx of newcomers from up north also skew the results unfavorably.
10 posted on 10/18/2011 8:09:58 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: trumandogz

Not sure I believe this. When I was in junior high they started handing out questionaires about drug use and sexual activity- we thought it was great fun to lie on them. Parents even thought it was OK to lie on them, thinking it was none of the government’s business what we were up to. I am sure kids haven’t changed that much...just because they checked the box for “having sex” or “having sex 4 or more times a week” doesn’t mean it is true.


11 posted on 10/18/2011 8:10:10 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: doc1019

By the time is kid is done with high school, there is a better than 50% chance that they have had sex.

That was true 30 years ago and it is still true today.


12 posted on 10/18/2011 8:11:27 PM PDT by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: trumandogz
Yes. You dig gay sex. We get it. Go do it somewhere else.
13 posted on 10/18/2011 8:11:49 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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To: trumandogz
From the study. The usual results:

Race/Ethnicity 2009 YRBS data indicate that black and Hispanic high school students in Texas are significantly more likely than non-Hispanic white students to have ever had sex (63% vs. 54% vs. 45%, p < .01) and to have had sex with at least one person in the past three months (43% vs. 40% vs. 33%, p < .05). Sexually active black and Hispanic students are also more likely to report not using birth control pills (94% vs. 90% vs. 78%, p < .01), not using birth control pills or Depo-Provera (91% vs. 89% vs. 75%, p < .01), and not using dual protection (condoms and pills or Depo Provera) (97% vs. 96% vs. 90%, p < .05) the last time they had sex, compared to non- Hispanic white students. Black students are more likely than Hispanic and non-Hispanic white students to have had sex for the first time before age 13 (12% vs. 6% vs. 4%, p < .05) and to have had sex with four or more partners (29% vs. 15% vs. 14%, p < .01). Black students are also more likely than non-Hispanic white students to have experienced dating violence in the past year (13% vs. 9%, p < .05). Hispanic students are more likely than black and non- Hispanic white students to have never received education about HIV and AIDS in school (25% vs. 12% vs. 11%, p < .01).

As usual, this isn't about Texas, this is about the large population of minorities in Texas and a basic lack family structure among ethnic minorities.

14 posted on 10/18/2011 8:11:58 PM PDT by txroadkill (Antlers up! The Claw must be feared! Back2Back American League Champions!)
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To: DBrow

Me too. That’s how I know. :-)


15 posted on 10/18/2011 8:12:09 PM PDT by Lost Highway (I don't know what the world may need but a V8 engines a good start for me)
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To: Lost Highway

Hate to tell you - in our local school the liberals decided to bus in some children from less affluent local towns. By the end of the year 50% of the boys in the 5th grade could answer yes to the question about Lewinskis.


16 posted on 10/18/2011 8:14:30 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Tammy8
Not sure I believe this.

I agree. I think this is just another lamestream media hit piece designed to make Texas look bad. The eastern Ivy league elites hate us for our success and Conservatism.

And as I posted a few messages back, the illegals, minorities (sadly, a lot of Muzzies here nowadays) and transplants from up north don't always share the strong traditional Christian values that have long been a part of our culture here. They skew the numbers unfavorably.

17 posted on 10/18/2011 8:16:32 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: trumandogz

Seeing how it’s Houston, most of the sixth graders are probably at least seventeen years old.


18 posted on 10/18/2011 8:18:12 PM PDT by MadJack ("Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet." (Afghan proverb))
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To: trumandogz

I’m talking about the 50’s. Back in the day when an eleven year old was innocent. Back before sex was the preemptive reason for television programs, back before sex was the preemptive reason for school curriculum.


19 posted on 10/18/2011 8:29:13 PM PDT by doc1019 (You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.)
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To: trumandogz

Are we talking about 11 yo?


20 posted on 10/18/2011 8:32:04 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I need a proper education!)
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To: trumandogz

Are we talking about 11 yo?


21 posted on 10/18/2011 8:32:27 PM PDT by Randy Larsen
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To: MadJack

>>>Seeing how it’s Houston,

the number may be an understatement because many 12 and 13 year old immigrant Hispanics drop out because they’re pregnant and the boys drop out two years later. The girls see it as a badge of honor. The principals of the schools try to hide the scale of drop outs (or at least they use to) because the schools get less funding for dropouts. The principals try to classify the dropouts as transfers. Maybe things have changed since I last saw the statistics.


22 posted on 10/18/2011 8:32:59 PM PDT by Hop A Long Cassidy
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To: MadJack

“Seeing how it’s Houston, most of the sixth graders are probably at least seventeen years old.”

Only in the “gifted and talented” classes.


23 posted on 10/18/2011 8:35:32 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: trumandogz

What the heck - you start teaching kids in kindergarten or first grade about sex and what do you expect?


24 posted on 10/18/2011 8:37:47 PM PDT by SkyDancer (The More You Agree With Me The More Intellegent You Appear.)
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To: trumandogz

Of course they don’t bother to mention that more than 1 in 10 Texas 6th graders are 17 years old...


25 posted on 10/18/2011 8:50:02 PM PDT by stormer
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To: MadJack

I guess next time I’ll read through the thread before putting in my 2 cents...


26 posted on 10/18/2011 8:54:31 PM PDT by stormer
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To: trumandogz
Same song and dance. URGENT ACTION NEEDED to get our influence and propaganda into the schools, and target younger and younger audiences with it. Their goal is to reeducate our youth to make them more compliant with deviant wishes and dreams, and at no time do they question the methodology presented...

Let's take a look at their data.. More than 40% of respondents report using no contraception while having sex, yet the ‘teen pregnancy’ rate is expanded to ...adults, of course. 18-19 year olds who might just be starting a young family. And when you strip that away, you're left with a much less dramatic number (they start with the scare number, 127 out of a thousand MIGHT become pregnant, and then it dips down to the ‘extrapolated’ number, which shows a quarter of that (30 out of a thousand) up to 12th graders, but still missing from that are numbers of unplanned pregnancies.

But let's take it at the word.. 53% of high schoolers are supposedly having sex, 21.2% without any contraception. The number given is 800,000+, so 163,000 are having unprotected sex, and apparently, only 5,000 are getting pregnant.

The ‘current’ explained rate of chance of pregnancy for using no forms of contraception is 85% for a sexually active couple. Yet only 3% of the quoted unprotected sexual relations are resulting in pregnancies (totally ignoring those who are using contraception and failure rates of those methods - after all, the quoted failure rate for condoms is 20%...)

So, let's take it the other way... We know how many pregnancies are occurring for a specific age range (15-17) of 30 per 1000 - The majority of those have to be happening from unprotected sex, and those rates are quoted as being 85 pecent, so the actual sexually active with no protection would be...7,000. If you divide that by the 42% quoted as being unprotected, you arrive at roughly 17,000 sexually active students.

So, the crisis is either a) extraordinarily low fertility rates for America's youth, or b) students blatantly lying on their surveys. And what's worse is the 1 in ten number indicated that says that the students were raped (forced) into a sexual experience. Who knew that there were so many young rapists out there - why the jails and newspapers must be filled with dozens of stories a day about it..

27 posted on 10/18/2011 8:56:20 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: doc1019
When I was eleven (mid fifties), I didn’t even know what “sex” was.

I started raising rabbits to sell at age 8.

I knew what sex was, and what it was for. Or at least the rabbit version of it. ;)

/johnny

28 posted on 10/18/2011 9:04:40 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: trumandogz

How do they define “sex?” People mean different things when they say that.


29 posted on 10/18/2011 10:33:33 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: trumandogz
12 and 13 year old guys are going to say yes whether they did or not. That's how it was back even in my day.
30 posted on 10/18/2011 10:45:31 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Perry and Cain I can support, but no Romney)
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To: re_nortex
The numbers are correct and the averages skew the data to seriously understate numbers in the black and Hispanic communities.

It was numbers like these in Texas at risk communities that convinced Rick Perry and the Texas legislature to push for HPV virus vaccinations for teenage girls.

In some “at risk” demographic communities (ie inner city ghettos, and barrios), HPV and herpes is way past epidemic proportions due to irresponsible sex practices by kid at very early ages who are too young to grasp the risks of their behavior. , It's close to 80% or more in some at risk areas and it's breaking out of these high risk areas into the general public. Like herpes simplex virus there is no treatment for HPV and it causes cancer and many other serious medical conditions in women

This is a serious public health issue and as everyone knows it is hard to attack the problem from a abstinence strategy for any teenager, much less very young and ignorant inner city teens where pregnancy and STD rates are off the charts.

It is the Governor's job to deal with public health emergencies and this is a legitimate emerging health emergency. At least Perry did try to take decisive action to try to deal with the situation in the only practical, pragmatic way available to him.

The real issue is that the problem of widespread early teen sex is creating both a huge teen pregnancy rate and a huge teen STD rate for the same reason-kids, especially very young ones in 6-9th grade, are just not ready to manage their behavior.So pregnancy and STDs especially HPV and herpes, are out of control in some of the inner city communities and especially the Black community.

If look at the statistics you will be stunned, I sure was.

31 posted on 10/19/2011 12:15:20 AM PDT by rdcbn
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