Skip to comments.Crime Surging at "Occupier" Sites - Scenes From "Lord of the Flies"
Posted on 10/20/2011 10:25:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
As the national media continues to promote the idea that these absurd "Occupy" protests demonstrate some groundswell of popular opinion, reports continue to emerge from localized media showing how ugly these encampments are becoming. A report out of Cleveland that police are investigating a rape claim made by a 19-year-old woman last weekend has received little attention. Do you suppose if a rape claim was made against a tea partier that it would receive more attention?
It's gotten so bad in Baltimore that organizers are discouraging alleged victims from going to the police (maybe they should go to Sheriff Biden).
Meanwhile, out in Oakland "occupiers" have taken to threatening reporters who dare enter their space. Ironically, it's public space, but I guess they've claimed it as their own. Also in Oakland they've been overrun by the dregs of society, resulting on what one police office says it a scene akin to the Lord of the Flies.
The tent city that has sprung up on the steps of Oakland City Hall has attracted a diverse range of people, many with competing ideologies and world views. Homeless people, ex-convicts, at least one registered sex offender, students, unemployed hotel workers, anarchists and reform-minded activists freely mingle together in what amounts to a democracy free-for-all.
Sometimes, everyone appears to be on the same page. But the skein of civility has been frequently shattered as bullies, the mentally ill, drunks, thugs and anarchists have threatened the safety and well-being of the camp's more peaceful residents.
Whenever you see the media insisting things are peaceful, think the opposite.
One Oakland police officer, who asked to remain anonymous for reasons of police protocol, described the scene in tent city as akin to a scene from "Lord of the Flies." And, indeed, the on-the-fly rule-making can often veer into an oppressive, anarchic mood.
Journalists are routinely shooed away and told off by angry residents. One Oakland police supervisor said that the participants first appeared to him as "freethinking activists" but have since devolved into something more sinister. He said it was "interesting for a group that claims to be against current civilization and rules to set up a far more oppressive society than our own."
Down in Los Angeles the "occupiers" have already trashed their current location and are looking to upgrade their digs. They also have hopelessly confused about what they want and, since they're apparently stoned out of their minds, can't come up with an actual list of demands, outside of recurring requests for munchies, it appears.
There are a lot of big ideas floating around Occupy L.A., but not a whole lot of consensus. The protesters have yet to codify a list of demands. In recent days, tensions within the group have spiked over drug use and growing numbers of homeless who have joined the camp.
Rachel Goldie, 20, decided to leave the protest Wednesday because she felt it had been corrupted by people who didn't care about economic justice. "Everybody is pretty much just partying it up," she said.
Police have been watching the protest closely from a command post inside City Hall. The department sent more than 30 officers to monitor the protest last weekend, Smith said. The daily and weekend deployments are not costing the city extra money, he said. But, he said, the protest is "taking police services away from the rest of the city where they should be out answering 911 calls."
So if someone is raped and police are unavailable, just blame Joe Biden.
Up in Boston things are also teetering out of control.
The incident highlights an emerging rift between the Occupiers and homeless, who have moved into the tent city to feast on freebies. Occupy protesters and a law enforcement source said cellphones, laptops and other items have been swiped from tents, but Driscoll said the department has received no reports of robberies.
“The homeless people are down there lurking around,” a law-enforcement source told the Herald. “Some of them are mentally ill and criminally insane. The potential is there for problems.”
How they can tell the difference between protesters and the mentally ill is unclear.
Looks like we've also got a developing Lord of the Flies scene brewing there.
Demonstrator Andrew Warner, 36, said homeless people are hijacking tents, getting drunk, “passing out” and stealing.
“It’s turning into us against them,” Warner said. “They come in here and they’re looking at it as a way of getting a free meal and a place to crash, which is totally fine, but they don’t bring anything to the table at all. It gets really frustrating.”
Jackson Bush, manning the Occupy information tent yesterday, said some homeless people have been hoarding free items, including donated coats.
Funny how a mob who wants to redistribute the wealth becomes upset when the homeless want to help themselves to other people's property.
The irony escapes them.
I am amazed how people expect character and morality to be readily available,it is really not that easy to find someone who would reach out to genuinely help a cause.
It would be screamed in the headlines for two or three weeks!
Oh, yeah, I saw this report on CNN tonight.
Oh, wait...no, that did not happen. Forget it,
I forgot that the media never reports on anything
negative for the President and his lemmings.
At the age of 36 Mr. Warner is amazingly naive. I hope this opens his eyes to how human societies work.
People are... BUMMING off of the Occupiers? Say it ain’t so!
What do you get when you bum a bum?
Another view of Cut and Run Paul’s America.
Remember, these folks are the “victims”, according to the good doctor.
Is it time to be concerned yet ?
I thought it would have been the cold forcing the Flea Party away, but now it is looking like the wacko criminals the left loves so much may be doing the job instead.
Crime is surging among the fleabaggers huh? Guess we better pass the “jobs” bill. (Rimshot!)
Looks like the reality of the world is making it’s way into these childish Ne’er Do Wells playhouse. Something tells me it won’t be as fun and chic to hang out at occupy events as the vultures and hardened criminals show up for their version of fun.
It’s getting weird out there.
The incident happened north of the border, but I am sure
things like this are happening at other “Occupations”.
Read the reader comments. They are hilarious. LOL.
I can’t countenance rape, but the more ‘mugged’ liberals there are out there...
What a selfish rich snob Warner is. These unfortunate persons of lesser means certainly do bring all they have to the table, and have far greater needs than the tightwad Warner.
How dare he show intolerance rather than the proper compassionate response to these unfortunates. I'm sure this is a hate crime, or should be.
Most of these people brought a stone for the stone soup, and those that didn't brought protein rich lice, fleas, and ticks, and those STD and HIV rumors are just that, rumors.
Shame, Mr. Warner, Shame!
We are witnessing the decline and fall of the American Republic. I never, ever, thought I’d say that but here we are.
This is the break down of civil society. I’ve never been more disgusted in my entire life.
Warner said. They come in here and theyre looking at it as a way of getting a free meal and a place to crash, which is totally fine, but they dont bring anything to the table at all. It gets really frustrating.
So, the question is how much does Warner plan on bringing to the table when he gets “his share” of the millionaires’ money.
This is terrible what happened to this girl. I hope that she recovers from the trauma.
Spending a night with a stranger in a tent is a risky proposition, especially with the crowd they have there.
Evidence that "police supervisors" (who ever the hell they are,) are sociological illiterates and are best limited to writing parking tickets. Sooner or later we have to face the fact that being a cop doesn't mean that you know anything useful about society as a whole.
This is all true. It's a "Lord of the Flies" atmosphere. There are NO cops at or around the Oakland camp, believe it or not. They are nowhere to be found. This is the opposite of the situation in NY at Zuccotti Park -- they're surrounded by cops 24/7.
Perhaps this is part of a de-escalation strategy by the police, but I think more likely there are no police because some members of the city council are sympathetic to the protesters, and want it that way. The park is right in front of Oakland city hall.
I'll post some more pics, but take a look at this sign posted on the perimeter of Ogawa Plaza (on the perimeter of the camp).
Who is Oscar Grant?
check it out
Looks like this man has placed himself in a position to get hands on experience of what happens when you promote anarchy.
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