Posted on 10/23/2011 6:35:56 PM PDT by combat_boots
Rather than trying to amend the Constitution, the liberals have come up with this idea. What they want to do is eliminate the Electoral College, but they can’t do that because the Electoral College is written into the Constitution. So instead, they want to manipulate how the Electoral votes are given to candidates.
bflr
http://www.lwv.org/Content/ContentGroups/StudyTaskforces/NPVCompactStudy/NPVArgument_con.pdf
argument against the NPV
The Constitution is silent on the means by which states apportion their electoral votes, except to the extent that it must conform to a “republican form of government”, which this plan does. A Constitutional attack is guaranteed to fail.
Also, I think we stand to gain at least as much by contesting for the electoral votes of California, New York, and Illinois as we stand to lose amongst the smaller and more rural states.
-ccm
The Constitution is silent on the means by which states apportion their electoral votes, except to the extent that it must conform to a “republican form of government”, which this plan does. A Constitutional attack is guaranteed to fail.
Also, I think we stand to gain at least as much by contesting for the electoral votes of California, New York, and Illinois as we stand to lose amongst the smaller and more rural states.
-ccm
Obamanation plans to be a one term president, his lifetime apparantly.
May the good Lord Jesus Christ protect us from the obamantion of liberalism.
PS. It is time for the states to rid the country of the marxist federal government by banding together and destroying the evil federal government who is destoying the middle class daily.
“Obamanation plans to be a one term president, his lifetime apparantly.”
I agree. He wants to be THE President. Of the United States of 0bama. Thus, the last President of the United States of America.
Come quickly, Lord Jesus. Please. And do not pass me by.
Thanks.
IIRC, Pennsylvania was looking at changing something recently, yes?
PA is working towards a proportional electoral system like Nebraska / Maine.
CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES
Constitutional Power. Because the U.S. Constitution gives a state legislature the power to determine how a state’s electors are chosen, there could be legal challenges to a compact between several states on selection of electors.
Political Compacts. According to opponents a political compact - one that tends to enlarge the political power of compacting states at the expense of either the federal government or non-conforming sister states - may function differently from other types of interstate compacts that cover subjects such as boundaries or economics issues.
Constitutionally, political compacts are permitted between states, but all require congressional approval. Under the Constitution’s Compact Clause any changes that create a shift in political power require congressional consent. Therefore, without congressional consent the NPV Compact may not be enforceable. Congressional approval has not always been sought for previous state compacts, and the four states that have adopted the NPV Compact have not sought Congressional approval.
The NPV Compact is perceived as a way to circumvent a national stalemate on election reform but the impasse could continue if congressional approval is necessary and difficult to obtain. Senators, who are elected statewide, could be as reluctant as some governors have been to support the NPV Compact if they perceive it as disenfranchising a significant portion of their own state constituency.
The U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear a case about the impact of one state’s method of appointing its presidential electors on another state (1966). However, the current Court mightdecide to hear a case on the NPV Compact, and could decide against a group of state legislatures introducing a new system of electing a president without an amendment to the Constitution.
Non-Compacting States. States not endorsing the Compact could become a fundamental concern constitutionally because the interests of states which have not signed the Compact could be greatly diminished. Opponents say that the electors from states not part of the Compact would have little influence on selection of the President.
Constitutional Protections. The U.S. Constitution is written to protect the interests of the states in order that all states will play a role in the electoral process. The NPV Compact allows as few as 11 states to determine a presidential election and could shift political power between states that are and are not party to the Compact. There is good reason to believe that effective governance would benefit from a broad geographic basis of support. Whether there is a broad geographic base for the Compact won’t be known until we know which states enter the compact.
It’s a damned shame we cannot copy the content of this posted article at FRee Republic to file for reference as we round up our troops and try to gain their attention to this matter.
It certainly would be a help to be able to send excerpts to draw interest as we hit our contacts cold with this.
Apparently the providers of this article are more interested in hits at their website than actually getting this to go viral.
If due my lack of ‘puter expertise there is some reason my fault I cannot copy this, please somebody advise.
Tom Campbell is behind this crap?
Isn’t this rich? The liberals want to use States Rights to control the electoral college outcome of a federal election!
In ANY other issue: abortion,marriage definition,2nd Amendment.... any one, they push for federalization of laws.
This one is being done apparently because they know they cannot write the Electoral College out of the Constitution. So this is part of the Soros efforts to “Stalinize” the vote counting by the state’s Secretarys of State This is an outcrop of the Secretary of State project. Correct?
Then the real war begins!
“Then the real war begins!”
I was thinking the same thing. If I’m not represented, then I’m no longer required to support them.
I guess we really are going to a “hot” war.
Can’t we declare that bugeyed SOB Soros an enemy of the US, have our Special Forces pick him up, and drop his a$$ in a hole at Guantanamo Bay? He’s done more damage to us than Bin Laden ever dreamed of, the only difference is he isn’t wearing a turban, and living in a cave, although I’d like to see that arranged. A little aggressive interrogation technique and he’d give up his co-conspirators in this country, and we could round up thousands of traitors.
Keep Your Powder Dry!
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