Skip to comments.Rick Perry's Strategy Does Not Require "Destroying" Anyone
Posted on 10/24/2011 2:39:59 AM PDT by bullypulpit
Robert "The Other" McCain writes in HotAir.com Sunday that Perry's "prime directive" is to destroy Herman Cain. The Other McCain could not be more wrong. Herman Cain has risen in the polls, as Rick Perry's poll numbers have plummeted, because Cain is seen at the glamour candidate of the moment that is Not Mitt Romney.
Cain is more than that, though. Cain is likeable, and even among Perry supporters like myself, admired. Besides that, if you ask my wife, the chicks dig him.
You cannot "destroy" a candidate that is so adorable that the chicks dig him.
Nor can you "destroy" a candidate that blew open the doors, laying the groundwork for the to-be-announced Perry "Cut, Balance and Grow" economic plan. Steve Forbes, in endorsing Rick Perry for president Sunday, noted that even with the sales tax in Cain's 9-9-9 plan, "that people loved the idea of the simplification of this horrific tax code."
Perry's immediate task is to do what Perry is doing right now: Provide a compelling reason to vote for Rick Perry. His jobs and energy plan released last week was one step in that direction. Tuesday's flat tax plan announcement is another.
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If Perry finds himself in dire straights, he has nobody but his self to blame
He’s the one who turned in poor debate performances and spooked the GOP base with immigration issues, not Herman Cain
He walked into it a frontrunner, and he certainly “destroyed” Michele Bachmann’s hard earned momentum- and for what? He’s now in single digits in the polls.
With his jobs record, all he had to do was not screw up... but he did, BIG time
He’s already destroyed the Ricardo Perry candidacy, so that’s somthing...
So he offers nothing new and bold with his signature on it as "his plan" and we are supposed to get excited about his intellectual insights to take Sarah Palin's Drill Baby Drill for his economic plan and then add to it with Steve Forbes' Flat Tax to boot?
Gee how original is that? Not to mention it took him four weeks to come up with the drilling and another two for the Flat Tax. Combined it has been almost 10 weeks since he announced his candidacy.
I’m glad to see the earlier report refuted. From what I’ve seen of Governor Perry (not all that much other than his campaign speeches and debates), the earlier report does not seem his style at all. Our candidates can debate the merits of each others’ candidacies but it is beneath all of them to go on attack mode. Perry’s argument to Romney during the debate was feeble but I believe that he may have been convinced to do that, in other words, that is not his natural tendency.
Time to move forward...we know who the real opponent is...0bama.
N-i-c-e take.........deserves a repeat.
Perry did not even officially enter the Iowa caucus----he cunningly manipulated the vote from Texas---that was supposed to take him over the top. Instead he got 700-800 pitiful write-ins, while Michele and the other winners got 4000 votes. He stomped all over Michele's hard fought win, announcing his candidacy on the day she won.
The Perry-pimponistas were cued to say "Rick won"---and there he was waving and smiling in front of Iowa banners---like he was the winner.
Ricky promised Texans he would not run for president if they reelected him Governor----AT THE SAME TIME he raised $55 million for a WH race. This calculating conman entered the 2012 race with three PACs (that we know of) teeming with millions.
While America has elected incoherent Texas governors in the past, Perry is probably the worst candidate ever to enter a presidential race. His precipitous downfall, engineered by his own stupidity, is one for the political history books.
Even IF Perry were to secure the nomination, Obama and the left would rip him apart on his lousy record managing public monies. Oh wait, they already have...
Well said, Liz. Particularly your comments about Michele Bachmann. The Perry crazies here at FR were programmed to destroy her not just as a candidate but as a woman. It was unforgiveable and, in the end, turned me off Perry for all time.
When Cain made the comment about the rock and the comment about Perry being his VP it bothered me, because they seem like natural allies. Perry had also just made complimentary comments about Cain. That is when I began to wonder about a Cain/Romney team up.
I also don't like Cain's comments about black Empowerment Zones, but those things aside, I like Cain. Even when certain Freepers get downright nasty toward Perry, I would not put that at Cain's feet.
I am looking for the best candidate and I think that is Perry.
By the way, a month and a half ago Cain and Perry's numbers were reversed. There is 2 1/2 months to go till Iowa. Didn't Huckabee win Iowa?
Sounds like a good plan. Perry is following a measured strategy that I think is going to carry him for the long haul. I hope he succeeds.
Plowing the field is how I see it.
He took a giant step toward righting the ship Sat. night in Iowa. http://theiowarepublican.com/2011/perry-regains-his-footing-at-iffc-event/
Bachman is a tough woman and can handle the rigors of the Presidential race. She is a constitutional lawyer, she gives and she gets as does everyone. Bachman could endorse Rick Perry at some point for all we know. She could endorse Cain or she could turn this thing around.
Not one of the candidates running as Republicans are evil people. They all have pros and con's and at some point we are going to have to rally around the nominee.
Because someone posts a comment about Perry being a rapist that can't take no for an answer, or that he is a homosexual who owns porno stores, has no bearing on the candidate they support. It speaks more of the person who posts those things.
The "Governor's Gusher" was an investigative report that showed how Perry used Texas govt agencies as a personal cash machine. One donor even got his own regulatory agency---for a price.
Mrs P headed Texans Against Sexual Assault---and got govt grants from her husband's office.
I can also tell you how easily the "loans" and "grants" got laundered back into campaign coffers.
Can you say conflict of interest and money-laundering (which goes hand-in-hand with tax fraud)?
I disagree.He destroyed himself. That counts as one...
Bingo. That will go down as the only real achievement of Perry's candidacy: the destruction of Bachman's. It's even possible that the Perry surge (now collapsed) was crucial in discouraging Palin from running. Now conservatives are down to one candidate--Cain, and as much as I like him, it's not healthy to have all our eggs in one basket.
He has a record of leftism of which open borders is only a part.
Texans were never, ever, going to let him slide.
His debate performance just speeded up what was going to happen anyway.
I don’t think anyone (that I’m aware of) has accused Perry of being either a homosexual or a rapist. But then I don’t read every post here. It seems to me that most of the attacks (mine included) have been about his very bad performance in the debates and the appearance that he can’t string two words together. Also, his positions on illegal aliens, pay-to-play, etc. A lot of us have used sarcasm and humor to get our points across and we, in turn, have been the subject of jokes and attacks. In other words, we give as good as we get.
My problem with the Bachmann attacks were that so many of them were attacks on her womanliness. It was almost as if FR had turned into a misogynist hate fest. And a lot of it came from the Perry camp.
As an aside...not the main event...Bachmann is a Tax Attorney who just happens to love the Constitution, not a Constitutional Lawyer.
“I also don’t like Cain’s comments about black Empowerment Zones, but those things aside, I like Cain.”
They’re not BLACK empowerment zones. The zones would apply to ANY community where there is very high unemployment and few opportunities for the people living there. As I understand it, the states themselves will choose which areas are in the greatest need - they put in an application and the fed will pick the best ones.
Black, white, Hispanic... I’m quite sure some American Indian areas will qualify.
Empowerment zones are race neutral.
All leftists as you call him, are pro life, pro military, pro gun, pro states rights, against the EPA and Global Warming, have called SS a Ponzi Scheme and a monstrous lie to our young people, have said Bernanke better not print money between now and the election, have written a book against Federal Government illicit power, have written a book in praise of Boy Scout values including their exclusion of homosexuals from Scouting, support traditional marriage, have publicly said they don’t believe in the theory of evolution and...
I could go on, but I have better things to do with my time than extend a list that is already mind blowing in showing how utterly absurd it is to lie that he is a leftist.
The wasting of Bachmann’s candidacy was about the worst thing the GOP could have done... for me, she’s the real conservative in the race.
At min, her voice was needed in the debate, rather than ignored like now- Bachmann/Bolton or something like that would have worked for me!
Except, why does the Federal Government have the power or the right to do that?
Except, if you are poor, including the working poor, and you don’t live in a chosen empowerment zone, you are out of luck.
Except, areas tend to be racial or ethnic in large portion, with those of a particular race or ethnicity dominating that area.
From my observation, those areas are usually not white, not anglo. There can be exceptions such as maybe in poor appalachia or the ozarks or some places like those, but for the most part there aren’t large areas of poor whites, rather, whites who are poor tend to be scattered.
A mixed neighborhood...one that is old, built before houses were mass produced that were all the same, contains a mix. Right next door or down or across the street from each other are rich, poor and in between.
The Federal Government needs to mostly go away out of lives, rather than be empowered with empowerment zones...
I've been around here for many primaries and have observed that the weaker the candidate the more outrageous the posts attacking the candidates seen as a threat to him.
Indeed, the candidates do the same thing revealing themselves as weak and the subject of their attacks as stronger. Why else would they bother?
Or to put it another way, people tend to ignore candidates they don't take seriously.
It is a back-handed compliment to the candidate being being assaulted verbally. But on this forum, it comes at the expense of the poster. Which is to say, the primary season will come to an end very soon whereas resentments are not easily laid aside.
It creeped me out-—the way Perry stomped on Michelle.
In retrospect, I’m thinking Anita orchestrated the hit on Michelle.
Could be Anita did not want any competition....so Michelle had to go.
I just saw Michele on one of the morning talk shows - I just can’t remember which one. She was sooooo articulate and so well-put together. Compare her to that blowzy Hillary who looks like she needs a bath and a shave.
Bachmann had a very small chance.
She had to impress people that she was Presidential.
She wasted her chance.
She yelled at her audience too much.
She misspoke again and again. She jumped to conclusions and said things she needed to take more time, study and thought on.
She went over the top. Kept talking on and on until she went too far.
She tells too many emotional stories. She’s told the one from the Bible about Jonathan, I don’t know how many times. She did it again in Iowa. Again, emoting over the top.
She must think she is supposed to be an inspirational speaker. Maybe like Reagan could inspire.
The problem is, Reagan was a pro. He had the perfect ear for his own stuff and for his audience, and he was head of a union and a two term governor of CA. She needed to be more like a Thatcher to convince people she was Presidential, and she couldn’t do it.
I defended her against the slime machine that attacked her here because they despised her candidacy.
She lost me.
I have specifically shown you posts of someone insinuating perry was like a rapist.
Then why did Cain refer to them as places with a high concentration of blacks on October 14 th in his CNN interview? Oh right another joke or misunderstanding. Too bad he said it twice.
What this does, because you have a lot of African-Americans located in cities like Detroit, disproportionately, it would encourage businesses to stay in business there or to move there. It would encourage people to work there, because if you live in the empowerment zone, youre going to pay a smaller percentage in taxes. Herman Cain Oct. 14th CNN
I’m sorry - really. I must have missed that. Can you repost?
“You cannot “destroy” a candidate that is so adorable that the chicks dig him.”
Does he mean like Barry Obama. Yeah the Chicks really dug him. UNTIL THEY LOST THEIR JOBS AND HOMES.
Cains 15 is running out. I’m sure he’s getting po’d that people don’t just take what he says at face value. I think we all have learned the hard lesson of not buying the hype.
conservatives don’t want to EXPAND FEDERAL Programs. Cain can’t wait. Just add bell pepper and call it vegie supreme.
Liz, that is false. It's been corrected repeatedly when it appears here at FR. The "55 million" number was a number that they said they WERE GOING TO RAISE during the primaries, once Perry entered the race. None of it was raised before he entered the race.
I realize you don't mind calling his wife and Perry liars, and I won't respond to most of what you write because it's pure propaganda and not worth the time, but I wanted to correct this misstatment of information; we all have the right to our misguided opinions, but not to our own facts.
Another false "fact". I'm sure you've got others, I usually don't read your comments because they are devoid of useful information, so maybe you make up your own facts all the time and I never noticed it.
You can try to defend your fiction, but realise that if you do, I'll put up the names of at least ONE recipient of a government loan that didn't donate money, and your claim will be proven to be false. Better to just move on and fix your talking points to remove the false charges.
Most of what you wrote in this comment was false, but since it's your opinion, there's no point in refuting it. You'll just make up some more stuff and post it back. Arguing with people who write their own evidence is fruitless.
Bachmann was taken out by Palin supporters before Perry entered the race. They were afraid Bachmann would be seen as a suitable substitute for Palin, and that would block Palin from getting into the race.
So the Palin folks started attacking her, first for the Ed Rollins stuff, and then with anonymous charges about Bachmann aides trashing Palin, a claim that Bachmann lied about talking with Palin, and then a story about how Bachmann and Palin were no longer friends.
None of that had anything to do with Perry announcing his candidacy. And the idea that if Perry had just announced his candidacy a week earlier in another state, Bachmann would be winning now is ludicrous. It’s just that once Perry entered, the Palin folks had to move to tearing him down, because HE was blocking the path.
The only reason they haven’t torn down Cain is that Cain was the winner of the musical chairs game — he happened to be rising in the polls at precisely the time Palin announced she wasn’t running, so there was no point.
However, in the week before Palin announced, the Palin supporters here at FR HAD started their campaign against Cain, with a few well-placed articles and vanity posts. They simply gave up when Palin dropped out.
I must have missed all that, I am a Palin supporter who plans on voting for Cain.
I believe in empowerment zones. Most of the unemployed black Americans in this country are in these mostly economically depressed areas. It could be, and Im only using this as an example, because we havent finished establishing the parameters yet. Instead of in a designated empowerment zone, it being 9-9-9, it could be, as an example only, 3-3-3.Maybe they are for all of us, but Herman Cain, who likes to call himself a "black American", because apparently being black is as important to him as being American (OK, that was sarcastic, but he could call himself an American black), specifically mentioned black people when talking about his empowerment zones (I'm still getting used to not calling them "enterprise zones", like they were called until Cain's group did some research and found that people thought "enterprise zones" sounded too liberal).
What this does, because you have a lot of African-Americans located in cities like Detroit, disproportionately, it would encourage businesses to stay in business there or to move there. It would encourage people to work there, because if you live in the empowerment zone, youre going to pay a smaller percentage in taxes.
I guess it is too much to ask that a black person think of themselves as just American, like us insensitive white people do, or that they not think of every liberal government giveaway they dream up as being for everybody.
Of course, I want to figure out who I have to donate money to to buy off the politicians so my county gets to be an enterprise zone and I can pay less in taxes.
I feel sorry for businesses who are just outside of these "empowerment zones". Everybody will just cross into the zone to shop, because they'll save 6-9% sales tax. And so sooner or later, the areas surrounding these zones will be economically depressed, and they too can be an "enterprize zone".
I seen a statement that Cain wants the whole country to be an empowerment zone, but I don't know if Cain actually said that. If it means paying lower taxes, I think we all want to be in an empowerment zone. But apparently you can only be "empowered" if you live in a failed economic area. Successful people SHOULD pay more in taxes to support the economically unsuccessful businesses and individuals. That's the New American Way.
Sure, why not just double-down and attack Anita Perry with more made-up charges. At least you couched it in “opinion” words.
But it is sad that you can be “creeped out” by a candidate announcing his candidacy. Apparently in the fictional world you live in, candidates NEVER try to do things for their own political advantage, and it is considered unfair for them to do so. Or it creeps them out or something.
What should creep you out is how you so freely you attack people you don’t know, charging them with unsubstantiated allegations of wrongdoing.
As to your last claim, Perry is a good Christian man, so his wife would have no reason to fear competition from Michelle Bachmann, who is also a good Christian woman married to a nice man. Why you would think otherwise is beyond me.
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