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Perry Regains His Footing at IFFC [Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition] Event
The Iowa Republican | October 24, 2011 | Craig Robinson

Posted on 10/24/2011 5:42:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

The Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition’s presidential forum unofficially marked a critical time for candidates in Iowa to start sealing the deal with Iowa’s ample number of social conservatives. It’s hard to say that some candidates won, while others lost. For the most part, all the candidates did well. Some just stood out more than others.

For an event that attracted scores of media and six presidential candidates, the most important people in the room were the activists who sat through the five-hour event. The Super Bowl takes less time if you don’t count parking, but even that event allows those in attendance to stretch their legs at halftime. That wasn’t the case on Saturday night.

In talking to a number of people after the event, the winners event were Rick Perry, Newt Gingrich, and Rick Santorum. Ron Paul and Michele Bachmann did well too, but the other three shined. Herman Cain on the other hand was a disappointment.

Ordering the top three is difficult. I was looking for more than just which candidate could strike a chord with the audience. I was considering what each candidate needed to get of the event politically, which is incredibly important with the caucuses less than three months away.

Here is how I rank it. If you disagree, the comment section is all yours.

1. Rick Perry

Texas Governor Rick Perry did exactly what he needed to do on Saturday night. Perry looked and sounded like the conservative candidate many were excited about when he entered the race back in August. Gone was the unpolished candidate who we have come to know in the debates, and in his place was a relaxed, confident candidate who commanded the stage. Facing a roomful of more than 1000 social conservatives, the question that Perry needed to address was whether or not he was one of them. He gave the audience plenty of reasons to believe that they have a lot in common.

Perry did two things in his speech that were incredibly important. He touted his long list of pro-life, pro-family accomplishments as governor, but maybe more importantly, he shared his own personal testimony. As Perry bared his soul to the audience, the room fell silent. It was at that point that Perry captivated those in the room.

Perry’s pro-life accomplishments, including defunding Planned Parenthood, passing a parental consent law, and requiring women in Texas who are seeking abortions to have a sonogram, are impressive, but it was his personal testimony on Saturday night that may change Perry’s fortunes in Iowa because it will help build trust with social conservatives across the state.

Unlike the rest of candidates, Perry didn’t shrink away for taking issue with Herman Cain’s recent flubbing on the issue of abortion. Perry didn’t mention Cain’s name, but everyone knew whom he was talking about when he said, “It is a liberal canard to say I am personally pro-life, but government should stay out of that decision. If that is your view, you are not pro-life.”

Perry was the clear winner on Saturday night because he accomplished everything he needed to do.

Promote his pro-life, pro-family record: CHECK
Convince the audience that you are an authentic social conservative: CHECK
Make a personal connection with the people in the room: CHECK
Capitalize on your opponent’s recent problems: CHECK
Define yourself instead of letting your opponents or the media do it: CHECK

I’d have a spring in my step today if I was the Perry campaign in Iowa. Again, this was the candidate that many were expecting when he entered the race.

2. Newt Gingrich.......Continues


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[Rick Perry Speech and Q&A at Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition] October 21, 2011
1 posted on 10/24/2011 5:42:32 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All; shield
Mitt was a no-show:

Romney's Trouble With Truth Extends Beyond Illegal Lawn Care Employees

2 posted on 10/24/2011 5:45:59 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; potlatch; ...
Perry Ping....

IF you'd rather NOT be pinged FReepmail me.

IF you'd like to be added FReepmail me. Thanks.

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3 posted on 10/24/2011 5:47:35 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perry as three times governor of the second most populous state in the Union has actually acted pro-life and not just talked pro-life.


4 posted on 10/24/2011 5:48:20 AM PDT by jgge
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

bump


5 posted on 10/24/2011 5:50:49 AM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
CW, could you post the link to the speech at the IFFC? I would ask all Freepers to avoid the vitriol in this forum and watch the speech.

Our job is too evaluate all the candidates on our own. Taking someones word on FR is irresponsible or letting a candidates supporter turn you off to a candidate is also petty.

If you walk away still disappointed fine, but at least you'll know.

6 posted on 10/24/2011 5:51:18 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Regain footing?
Nonsense.

Rick Perry acts the FOOL when he goes after Mr. Cain.

If Mr. Perry wants a chance, then he must be a
CONSERVATIVE and go after the RINOs and political
cross dressers (Romney and other proObama RINOs).

It is not about CONVINCING the audience that Rick Perry
is a CONSERVATIVE (especially given obvious his open border
philosophy and PerryCARE in the past),
it is about Mr. Perry finally BEING CONSERVATIVE (if he is).


7 posted on 10/24/2011 5:51:39 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Kind of sad he didn’t extend parental consent and family values to his imposition of Gardasil.


8 posted on 10/24/2011 5:55:22 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Diogenesis

Actually it is Perry who is the only one going in any meaningful way against Romney and Romney is solely focusing all his rage and attacks on Perry. Where are Herman Cain meaningful attacks on Romney? Where are Romney meaningful attacks on Cain? According to the polls these two, Romney and Cain, are neck to neck but none is attacking the other. This tells us a lot about both of them.


9 posted on 10/24/2011 5:55:40 AM PDT by jgge
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To: Diogenesis
First, you are not to be taken seriously as you are LYING about Perry's "open borders" policy. You cannot make a valid point without lying.

Cain certainly isn't going after Romney and so far, Perry is the only one going after Romney.

I do not understand the hatred toward Perry here on FR. Worry about promoting your guy and stop lying about Perry.

10 posted on 10/24/2011 5:56:55 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: indylindy

Maybe it’s time for ALL states to remove ALL vaccine mandates. Let’s be consistent.


11 posted on 10/24/2011 5:58:22 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: normy
CW, could you post the link to the speech at the IFFC?

CLICK on Perry's photo in Post #1.

I see this news story has been removed from "news" and put into "bloggers."

12 posted on 10/24/2011 5:59:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: jgge
You have to ignore that post. You'll get no where with that poster. It's emotional not rational. Perry is expected to do thing other are not. Supposedly Cain and anyone else deemed untouchable can't be scrutinized in the least and whatever they say, they can just say they were joking or confused and it's all ok.

We're voting for President here.

13 posted on 10/24/2011 5:59:47 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thanks.


14 posted on 10/24/2011 6:00:34 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Tribune7

bfl


15 posted on 10/24/2011 6:01:01 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: indylindy

He did extend parental consent to Gardasil.
Read the “Parental Rights” portion:
http://governor.state.tx.us/news/executive-order/3455/


16 posted on 10/24/2011 6:02:11 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed:Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now, now. now!)
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To: normy

I do not understand the outright hatred toward Perry. It doesn’t even seem rational—it’s all emotional and it seems very sincere.


17 posted on 10/24/2011 6:04:31 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: jgge
Actually it is Perry who is the only one going in any meaningful way against Romney and.....

Exactly. Because Romney can't be the GOP nominee and Perry is the anti-Romney.

18 posted on 10/24/2011 6:05:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: McGavin999

“Unlike the rest of candidates, Perry didn’t shrink away for taking issue with Herman Cain’s recent flubbing on the issue of abortion. Perry didn’t mention Cain’s name, but everyone knew whom he was talking about when he said, ‘It is a liberal canard to say I am personally pro-life, but government should stay out of that decision. If that is your view, you are not pro-life.’”


19 posted on 10/24/2011 6:05:07 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: indylindy

We’ll see if he brings in his national council of socialist churches La Raza Loving pals.


20 posted on 10/24/2011 6:05:14 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Cain talked about segregation? Wow. Again, totally out of his league.

It’s amazing how much positive talk Newt gets but so little support. I wish people would realize we are electing a President, not Husband of the Year...lol


21 posted on 10/24/2011 6:06:55 AM PDT by magritte
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma; All
Listen to what Gov. Perry tells La Raza about the border
22 posted on 10/24/2011 6:08:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: cripplecreek
“let justice roll down like waters and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

“It’s not enough to talk about what black folks ought to do,” Alexander once said. “We have to also look at what government is not doing to ensure fairness and equal opportunity. God is on the side of the least of these. Jesus said ‘the first shall become the last and the last shall become the first.’”

Cain's pastor and good friend from the church Cain preaches at.

23 posted on 10/24/2011 6:08:23 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

You must be MISTAKEN, Conservativegreatgrandma.

Go wash your mouth out with soap.
Perry is for “open borders” and called Americans
‘HEARTLESS’ if they opposed his lavishing of American
taxpayer money on illegal aliens.

HEARTLESS, he said. So, it is YOU who are projecting
and lying, Conservativegreatgrandma.

Perry is not the only one going after Romney.
Santorum did also on the last debate.
So, it is YOU who are projecting and lying, Conservativegreatgrandma.


24 posted on 10/24/2011 6:08:23 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Diogenesis

YOU are a liar. Perry is NOT for open borders but you would rather he was for open borders so you simply lie about it.


25 posted on 10/24/2011 6:11:01 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: cripplecreek
“I believe in empowerment zones. Most of the unemployed black Americans in this country are in these mostly economically depressed areas. It could be, and I’m only using this as an example, because we haven’t finished establishing the parameters yet. Instead of in a designated empowerment zone, it being 9-9-9, it could be, as an example only, 3-3-3.

What this does, because you have a lot of African-Americans located in cities like Detroit, disproportionately, it would encourage businesses to stay in business there or to move there. It would encourage people to work there, because if you live in the empowerment zone, you’re going to pay a smaller percentage in taxes. Herman Cain Oct. 14th CNN

26 posted on 10/24/2011 6:11:55 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: magritte

....”You have a son, Griffin, 28, and a daughter Sydney, 25. What was their reaction when you told them you wanted to run for president?

We had a family conference. My son was there with his wife, they’ve been married 18 months. There’s a young man, a Navy SEAL that Anita and I took care of for about two-and-a-half years. He basically adopted us. His name is Marcus Luttrell [co-author of the book Lone Survivor]. He was in the family meeting too. It was Anita, myself, Griffin, his wife Meredith, Sydney, Marcus, and his wife. Seven of us sat down, and we had a conversation.”....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2796841/posts


27 posted on 10/24/2011 6:12:46 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

There is a huge difference in those vaccines that protect against airborne or “by touch” communicable diseases and a vaccine that is imposed upon females that was not properly tested and only to prevent genital warts caused by sexual contact.

Right now this vaccine has a life of 4-6 years.

Anymore, it isn’t usually the additives to vaccines that cause most of the problems.

To me it isn’t as much the vaccine as it was a really poor judgement call by Perry to use an EO to impose it.

He also uses poor judgement in his fascination with illegal aliens.

A man who is supposedly so pro life and pro family would have to be blind to endorse Rudy for President. Rudy is totally pro choice and firmly pro choice.

I believe a candidate doesn’t have to be in perfect agreement with me on all issues. I do think the candidate needs to be able to make good judgment calls and be one that is going to reflect the wishes of the people that vote for him.

US citizens always have to come first.


28 posted on 10/24/2011 6:14:20 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He was really good, I watched the whole thing about 3 times yesterday on C-Span. He really connected with the people and they got a chance to see the real Rick Perry and they liked what they saw.


29 posted on 10/24/2011 6:19:40 AM PDT by McGavin999 ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: indylindy
...........................................................................He also uses poor judgement in his fascination with illegal aliens....................................................

Who writes your stuff?

Or is it all your own concoction?

30 posted on 10/24/2011 6:23:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Perry is a johnny one note on securing the borders. The Federales are the only ones who can and they refuse.

Perry as President would be in position to do what he advocates on border security. Strategic fencing, sufficient National Guard presence, Border Patrol, high tech assets such as drones, strategic fencing (that’s fencing where it can be effective) etc.

His Texas Ranger force is acting cooperatively with Border Patrol NOW, and surely would continue that if he were President. Regardless of his successor...


31 posted on 10/24/2011 6:23:35 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: indylindy
Perry "won" the recent Iowa Faith And Freedom Coalition event b/c he bamboozled Iowans into believing he was pro-life, pro-family, and an authentic social conservative.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Most voters have wised up to Perry---they know they should ignore what Perry says and watch what he does.

In 2008 Perry endorsed his business partner Rooty Giulini with much fanfare. Noo Yawker Giuli opened a law firm in Texas.....and apparently colluded with Rick to use Texas eminent domain to take land from Texans to give to a Spanish company (Rooty's client) building the Trans Texas Highway. They all stood to profit mightily off land taken from Texans.

Rooty is an obsessed gun-grabber, abortion-worshipper and gay lover. Giuli contributed to PP, was NARAL's guest speraker and marched in gay parades under the Man-Boy Lovers' banner.

Mayor Rooty planned to dump his wife and kick his kids into the streets to install his mistress in the Mayor's manse. He held a press conference announcing he was divorcing without first telling his wife and chikdren.

While still married, Rooty escorted his mistress to official mayoral events. Later it was discovered he finance his mistress via obscure city agencies.

Rooty exited office with some $10 million from a 911 "Foundation" headed by his mistress. He was publicly shamed into giving some of the money to 911 victims' spouses.

So much for Perry's fealty to family values. One can only imagine the crumb-bums like Rooty who would surround a Perry WH (gag)

32 posted on 10/24/2011 6:24:50 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: normy

It reminds me of the Democrats’ blind devotion to Obama, d*mn the facts and move ahead with the talking points—and anyway, who needs “facts” when they can make up the ones they want? I don’t post a lot on these threads any longer for that reason—it just invites more of the same from the attack-bots. I don’t even read a whole lot beyond the main article—the attack-bot posts are predictable, even while being almost entirely off-base and often completely false. Lately, FR seems to function more like DU.


33 posted on 10/24/2011 6:28:02 AM PDT by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: Liz

Boy! You are getting desperate Liz.

Perry must be pulling back up in the polls.


34 posted on 10/24/2011 6:29:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Diogenesis

Read his speech to LaRaza. I used to respect you as a Freeper who does the homework before commenting. Now, not so much.


35 posted on 10/24/2011 6:33:26 AM PDT by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It’s apparent that the Cain campaign simply doesn’t know what they should be doing.

Poor old Herman, 28% to perry's 7% in Iowa and the Cain "simply doesn't know what it should be doing".

What ever Herman is doing his numbers are 400% better than rickys.

I watched the whole thing on C-Span and Herman was the first speaker and I thought he did well.

Opinions are shaded by viewpoints so those that agree/disagree will have the same/different opinions.

If you just rate the "winner" by the one that gave the best speech, no one can come close to the newt. Newt has the best knowledge of history and politics and can think on his feet and deliver a speech better than any politician in the Country.

Herman is honest to a fault, does step on his crank once in a while, but shoots straight and has excellent moral grounding.

I'll take Herman, the perrywinkles can have the 10 year governor of the great state of Texas.

36 posted on 10/24/2011 6:35:04 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the Terrorists Savages)
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To: MizSterious
FRiend, it is not about talk.
It is about action. Mr. Perry in open debate
called Americans who want otherwise, "HEARTLESS".


37 posted on 10/24/2011 6:36:33 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Liz

Perry didn’t divorce his wife and put his kids in the street. Perry doesn’t support abortion. Perry didn’t walk away with “911” money. Perry certainly isn’t going to grab your guns. Like many others, he supported Rudy soley because of his stance on the war on terror and the fear that obama wouldn’t continue Bush’s WOT policies.


38 posted on 10/24/2011 6:36:47 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: MizSterious

The fact that he even spoke to La Raza is enough for me. Why not legitimize the Klan by speaking to them too.


39 posted on 10/24/2011 6:38:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: indylindy; Cincinatus' Wife

Rudy isn’t my pick, but I, like Perry, did not repeat did not want John McCain.

In case you missed it, Perry has spoken to his reasoning on endorsing Rudy. Besides Rudy’s bonafides as a successful administrator and leader, on the pro life issue in particular, Rudy told the Governor that he would pick strict constructionist judges for the bench, and that he would not undo any pro life laws or rules.

We had a lousy choice in 2008. I supported Duncan Hunter, then Fred Thompson. We saw where that got me and others like me.

Perry didn’t have to endorse anyone. But apparently he felt like he needed to. And for awhile, Rudy was leading all the polls. Then he did a strange thing and guaranteed his defeat, in how he chose to mount his campaign.

I write this not to attempt any MIND CHANGING on Rick Perry, but to show that the pro life issue was squarely on his mind and he put it squarely to Rudy, and he accepted his word on what he would do if elected President.

McCain has a loose screw. I mostly attribute it to his captivity, but for all I know it could be more than that.

Perry is very pro military and if he knew of McCain’s lose screw, he is forthright enough to act on that knowledge rather than hunker down and hope for the best.


40 posted on 10/24/2011 6:39:39 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Diogenesis

If it’s about action, then please do read some of the South Texas news, where you’ll find him trying to do the job the feds refuse to do. I live in the next door state to the north, and used to live in South Texas. We follow the news rather closely, as we still have friends there. What you are saying is exactly opposite of what I know to be true.


41 posted on 10/24/2011 6:39:39 AM PDT by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; miss marmelstein
Based on your post, Perry must be pulling back up in the polls.........

I just hate to be the one to burst your little dream bubble....but, alas no, Perry's poll numbers are still sinking into oblivion.

I, for one, cannot wait to see what desperation moves he'll use next. All of Perry's Texas election cons are pretty much kaput---might have to resort to the Madoff Playbook to dredge up a few more tried and true ruses.

42 posted on 10/24/2011 6:41:20 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma; Diogenesis
Diogensis is one of the best FREEPERS and has ethics and principles. Conservative great grandma is the WORST FREEPERS in history on Free Republic and lies and lies and has ZERO principles. I support you Diogenesis 100 percent. Don't let this little person get to you....she is not worth worrying about. She is a troll who is VERY liberal.
43 posted on 10/24/2011 6:42:14 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: MizSterious

Good for him.

Then, he should tout THAT. With specificity,
since he tends to avoid saying anything with
precision in the debates so far.


44 posted on 10/24/2011 6:43:19 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Boy! You are getting desperate Liz.

Perry must be pulling back up in the polls.

Yes he went from 2 percent to 2 percent +1 when Steve Forbes endorsed him. You are delusional if you think Perry is doing fantastic in the polls. He is sixth a lot of the time. You can support a loser but really should be supporting a winner in Cain!!!!


45 posted on 10/24/2011 6:44:56 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: hocndoc

Thanks much for posting that.


46 posted on 10/24/2011 6:45:35 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Diogenesis
It is not about CONVINCING the audience that Rick Perry is a CONSERVATIVE (especially given obvious his open border philosophy and PerryCARE in the past), it is about Mr. Perry finally BEING CONSERVATIVE (if he is).

Perry can buy alot of lipstick to smear on his pig of a record, but it's still a pig and squealing louder every day.

47 posted on 10/24/2011 6:46:30 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Rick Perry engages in corporate welfare via Texas TEF/ETF)
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To: jersey117
Perry didn’t divorce his wife and put his kids in the street. Perry doesn’t support abortion. Perry didn’t walk away with “911” money. Perry certainly isn’t going to grab your guns.

But Perry enthusiastically endorsed his business partner, Giuliani, who did all that.

In politics, (as everywhere else) one is known by the company one keeps.

Would any businessman worth his salt, go into business with Bernie Madoff? Course not.

And why? B/c everyone would automatically assume he was also a crook.

48 posted on 10/24/2011 6:49:06 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He devoted most of his speech to the topic of segregation. There is no problem with that if he had he tied it in with an issue like abortion. Had he done that, it would have been a powerful moment. Instead, he made a bus analogy, saying that he remembers signs on that instructed African Americans to sit in the back of the bus, and now he owns a bus with his face plastered on it*****

This is one of the things that troubles me about Cain. It seems his idea of Christianity revolves more around the concept of some sort of social gospel. The church he attends certainly doesn’t sound as radical as 0zer0’s, but it does seem to focus on racial empowerment as a spiritual principle and Cain at times reflects that thinking in his statements and proposals.

At this point all the candidates have issues, but the only two I could see supporting are Perry and/or Santorum.


49 posted on 10/24/2011 6:49:20 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

bumping this most important thread.


50 posted on 10/24/2011 6:50:32 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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