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Progressives, Islamists huddle at Justice Department -(crimalize criticism of Islam)
Daily Caller ^ | October 21, 2011 | Neil Munro

Posted on 10/24/2011 3:20:41 PM PDT by opentalk

Top Justice Department officials convened a meeting Wednesday where invited Islamist advocates lobbied them for cutbacks in anti-terror funding, changes in agents’ training manuals, additional curbs on investigators and a legal declaration that U.S. citizens’ criticism of Islam constitutes racial discrimination.

The department’s “civil rights lawyers are top of the line — I say this with utter honesty — I know they can come up with a way” to redefine criticism as discrimination, said Sahar Aziz, a female, Egyptian-American lawyer.

“I’d be willing to give a shot at it,” said Aziz, who is a fellow at the Michigan-based Muslim advocacy group, the Institute for Social Policy & Understanding.

The audience of Islamist advocates and department officials included Tom Perez, who heads the department’s division of civil rights.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


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KEYWORDS: cair; doj; hillary; holder; islam; islamistadvocates; muslimbrotherhood; obama; sharia; spreadofsharia; statedepartment; tomperez; un; wot

1 posted on 10/24/2011 3:20:49 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


2 posted on 10/24/2011 3:25:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: opentalk

This infidel believes that “Muslim” is not a race.


3 posted on 10/24/2011 3:26:09 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: opentalk
Tom Perez is the Luddite who doesn't like electronic books because you can't read them like braille.

BTW, this right here is the reason to DEPORT ALL MOSLEMS to somewhere else. They cannot assimilate. Their attachment to fascist methods makes them incompatible with freedom in this or any other country.

4 posted on 10/24/2011 3:28:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: opentalk

Speechless. I am speechless.


5 posted on 10/24/2011 3:28:57 PM PDT by dforest
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To: opentalk

Sic transit free speech ...


6 posted on 10/24/2011 3:30:12 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: opentalk

Yet another reminder that Islam is incompatible with the US Constitution.


7 posted on 10/24/2011 3:33:19 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: opentalk

FUBO and Islam


8 posted on 10/24/2011 3:33:54 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: opentalk
from 2009, it all starts to make sense, with Libya and Egypt new governments becoming Islamic Sharia law.

UN Approves Obama-Egypt Don't Criticize Islam Resolution!

Back in June Obama gave a completely one sided pro-Islamic speech in Cairo. Today we learn that he has sponsored a US-Egypt UN resolution which is against the criticism of "religions". We all know what so called religion he is trying to protect and the Egyptian government which persecutes Christians, are the last people who should try and dictate what can be said about religions. This is just another victory for Islam.

9 posted on 10/24/2011 3:34:44 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
They are attempting to initiate and legitimately pass laws to classify a new tag much like “racist” is used for black americans which will shut down and stigmatize anyone who chooses to speak out regardless of who they are. This will enable the muslims under the law to exaggerate much like the word racist is being used to further thier cause without impunity. They will be untouchable just by the mention of the word or the accusation.
10 posted on 10/24/2011 3:35:52 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: opentalk
related thread (10/21/2011)

Cair, Muslim Brotherhood influencing DOJ, policy.

Obama administration pulls references to Islam from terror training materials, official says

Deputy U.S. Attorney General James Cole confirmed on Wednesday that the Obama administration was pulling back all training materials used for the law enforcement and national security communities, in order to eliminate all references to Islam that some Muslim groups have claimed are offensive.

11 posted on 10/24/2011 3:48:56 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

That “discrimination list’ they are trying to compile will be a biggie!!!


12 posted on 10/24/2011 3:48:56 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: opentalk
legal declaration that U.S. citizens’ criticism of Islam constitutes racial discrimination.

Let me be the first. Islam is a religion established by a pedophile and rooted in the 7th century. It's a religion of cowards and fools.

I shake the dust off of my shoes when I encounter islamists.

Islam is a scourge and iron yoke on humanity.

/johnny

13 posted on 10/24/2011 3:50:34 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: opentalk

Whatever happened to the idea that it’s the government which should not discriminate, rather than the people?


14 posted on 10/24/2011 3:50:50 PM PDT by Lady Lucky ( Living well IS the best revenge...and still legal.)
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To: opentalk

islam is the enemy of freedom and liberty. it is the driving force of most terrorism in the world today and is a direct threat to America.
You will never stop free peoples from fighting against it..


15 posted on 10/24/2011 3:57:35 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Winstons Julia

Muslims, may pigs be upon them.


16 posted on 10/24/2011 4:06:00 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Perfectly said!


17 posted on 10/24/2011 4:06:48 PM PDT by WellyP (REAL)
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To: opentalk

Eventually, inevitably, we will have to criminalize Islam.


18 posted on 10/24/2011 4:17:00 PM PDT by Blado (Emperor ObowMao & Hillary Incitatus - INTERNATIONAL WAR CRIMINALS)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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19 posted on 10/24/2011 4:19:52 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Blado

good post


20 posted on 10/24/2011 4:20:32 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

“”all references to Islam that some Muslim groups have claimed are offensive.””

We find Muslim groups OFFENSIVE.

Who’s going to listen to us?

How come these creeps get more attention paid to their gripes than the rest of us?

Who is listening to the TEA Party participants who are speaking for the majority of us?

Knock off the PC crap in this country and we’ll have come a long way to getting back to normal!


21 posted on 10/24/2011 4:26:05 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Thank You Rush
It is more than PC the Department of Justice is promoting.

This is about Sharia law imposed on the US. The plan, among other things, seeks to define slander according to Islamic Sharia law—making Islamic “slander” a serious crime in every jurisdiction in the world, including the United States. link

In Sharia law, it is forbidden to criticize either Islam or Mohammad.

This week in Egypt Arab Spring in Egypt: Man gets three years in prison for insulting Islam on Facebook

CAIRO — Egypt’s state media says a Cairo court has sentenced a man to three years in prison for postings on Facebook deemed to be inciting sectarianism and in contempt of Islam.

The MENA state news agency said Saturday a the misdemeanor court found Ayman Mansour had intentionally mocked Islam and used “outrageous and scurrilous” language in describing the religion’s holy book, the Quran, and its prophet and believers


22 posted on 10/24/2011 4:49:57 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Further evidence that all muslimes and liberals need to be arrested and deported.


23 posted on 10/24/2011 4:50:59 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: opentalk
We must continue to have the open and honest and critical dialogue that you saw in the robust debate,” Perez responded in an enthusiastic closing speech a few minutes after Aziz made her demands at the event.

Open dialogue on how to stifle free speech.

The moron probably doesn't even know how ridiculous he sounds.

24 posted on 10/24/2011 4:53:05 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: opentalk

Those of us willing to vote third-party in 2012 and award Obama a second term should remember this.


25 posted on 10/24/2011 5:02:17 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Hurrah me boys, for FREEDOM! `Tis the risin` o` the moon!)
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To: opentalk
This could lead to VERY bad things in the future.

Your post completely chilled me.

Islam is NOT a race. Is is a religious-poltical organization that wants to KILL the infiidel and accomplish world sharia law. F--- Islam.

26 posted on 10/24/2011 5:03:32 PM PDT by Republic (SO-uhbama sought help from romney MA healthcare authors? DUMP ROMNEY, no way will he kill obamacare.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Islam is a 6th century cult made up of the loony imaginations and perversions of some weird ‘prophet’. I’m sick of the islamists coming to our country - and other free countries - and dictating to us how we should act and demanding special treatment.

Dog poop on them and their stupid ‘prophet’!


27 posted on 10/24/2011 5:12:07 PM PDT by sneakers (EAT YOUR PEAS!)
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To: Blado
Eventually, inevitably, we will have to criminalize Islam.

And also "put away" every judge who tries to thwart that criminalization.

Maybe also institute a House Unamerican Islamic Activities Committee.

28 posted on 10/24/2011 5:18:11 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: A Satanically Transmitted Disease spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus)
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To: ApplegateRanch
And also "put away" every judge who tries to thwart that criminalization.

Maybe also institute a House Unamerican Islamic Activities

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Yeah, (sigh) probably.

I was lookin' forward to a peaceful old age. Now I'm lookin' at full scale civil war. Oh Well. I always loved shootin' vermin when I was a kid.

29 posted on 10/24/2011 5:27:25 PM PDT by Blado (Emperor ObowMao & Hillary Incitatus - INTERNATIONAL WAR CRIMINALS)
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To: opentalk
Tar & Feather Kits

Use'em early; use'em often!


30 posted on 10/24/2011 5:33:50 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: A Satanically Transmitted Disease spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus)
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To: opentalk

How about criminalizing criticism of Christianity?


31 posted on 10/24/2011 5:34:03 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (2012—They vote twice— we'll vote three times.)
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To: opentalk; ApplegateRanch; Blado; JRandomFreeper

Nothing short of total annihilation is the cure for the dreadfully psychotic and deadly disease called islam...


32 posted on 10/24/2011 5:38:39 PM PDT by JDoutrider (The democrat party has morphed into an evil institution that is hell bent on destroying America.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Islam translates to “Surrender (to Allah)” in English.

It is a method (social/political) of creating a theocracy. Its’ very essence represents a merging of religion and politics.

It is in direct conflict with The Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and yet this political correctness is proffered by those who have taken a sworn oath to protect The Constitution .


33 posted on 10/24/2011 5:40:26 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ("Political correctness is tyranny with manners." - Charlton Heston)
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To: opentalk
The Foxes have again been invited to tea in the hen house (This time, The Justice Dept) and asked to decide the menu. (There is only one result: Stewed chicken.)

(The insanity continues. Muslims sit on the board of Homeland Security since O took office - wonder why no more bomb sniffing dogs that could actually detect explosives (Muslims hate dogs) and, instead, passengers get molested, the ultimate indignity and crime, including small children and little ole ladies in wheel chairs - but not turban heads or burka babes?)

Now they're deciding rules by the Justice Dept - and getting ready to make it a crime to say anything against Islam. Sharia Law creeping over our Constitution...again.

If this were 1939, likely Hitler would be invited for a State Dinner to tell us what we could/couldn't do.

34 posted on 10/24/2011 6:03:30 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: opentalk
None of this is new or should be surprising - For those who couldn't see what O is before the election, the fact that his FIRST public address was IN CAIRO to the Muslim Brotherhood should have clued in in even the most clueless.

The frightening part is that NO ONE has stopped his systematic turning of our country over to the mooseslimes...including shutting down our Space Program and ordering the funding diverted to”mostly Muslim countries’ starting with Indonesia, to ‘bring the Muslim youth into the space industry.”

WHY is no one shutting this traitor down?

35 posted on 10/24/2011 6:17:23 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: opentalk

Thanks for that link. How on earth did we ever get to this stage? How did such a barbaric people with such false doctrine ever get this much power? It appears to be worldwide acceptance of a culture that provides nothing useful to the rest of the world but can dominate our cultures! It’s absolutely asinine. How can so many civilized countries have so many politicians that can’t see this danger?


36 posted on 10/24/2011 6:41:55 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: maine-iac7

“”WHY is no one shutting this traitor down?””

Maybe we should all be paying more attention to JB Williams’ last plea - posted here earlier this evening.

Are we all still going to be sitting here complaining when all hope is gone of saving this country and our families? I don’t have the answer and who knows - maybe what JB is proposing will have some merit and open some eyes.

If you didn’t see the thread, I have his email from today that was posted on FR. The man has always made a lot of sense, zeroed in on the problems exactly and has been a lone voice in the wilderness for a lot of years. What have we done to help him out?


37 posted on 10/24/2011 6:52:44 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: opentalk
and a legal declaration that U.S. citizens’ criticism of Islam constitutes racial discrimination.

and therefore actionable. Basically a website like (for example) Gates of Vienna would be a massive civil rights lawsuit waiting to happen. To say nothing of FR.

38 posted on 10/24/2011 6:52:44 PM PDT by denydenydeny (The moment you step into a world of facts, you step into a world of limits. --Chesterton)
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To: Thank You Rush

FROM JB WILLIAMS today:

Patriots,

We have endured the socialist/communist anti-America destructive path of the Obama Administration for nearly three years...our nation is teetering under the illegal weight of a domestic enemy in the White House and supporting members of Congress. Over 230 years of sacrifice, blood, lives lost, families destroyed and other treasure spent supporting the Constitution of the United States...we will not, repeat, will not allow the demise of our Republic fostered by gangs out of Chicago, Illinois supported by greedy, unprincipled politicians in Congress.

We must take aggressive action in spreading the message contained in A Declaration To Restore The Constitutional Republic. Here’s what I urge, implore you to do:

First read JB Williams latest documentation of the situation and threat at the attachment, “Will Those Who Took An Oath Save our Republic?. After you have read JB’s article, click on the links at the bottom of his article and take the action.

Second, Each one of us must take a personal active role supporting the Declaration. There are at least three phone calls you must make.

You must call your two US Senators and US Representative..this will require three (3) calls. You can do that in a very simple exercise. Use these toll free numbers, I have called and they work. 1-866-272-6622 or 1-877-851-6437 which will connect you with the US Capitol operator in Washington, DC.

When the operator answers, ask for the office of your Representative. You must call two more times to speak with the office of each of your two Senators.

Here’s an example of what you might say:

I am__________, a constituent of Rep or Senator_______. I want you to advise Rep/Senator that Veterans and Patriot citizens will muster/rally at the Washington Monument on 11-11-11 by the millions. We will be bringing a Declaration To Restore Constitutional Republic, much like our original Declaration of Independence, that outlines our demands for the resignation of Obama, his cabinet, agency heads, and members of Congress. We are peaceful but resolute in our determination that Obama must go NOW, not November 2012. We have endured the trampling of our Constitution by the Obama Administration while Congress looks the other way....enough, we’ve had enough. Give www.veterandefenders.org and www.patriotsunion.org web sites to the staff person as official organizations sanctioning the muster/rally on 11-11-11

You might also read the Oath in JB Williams article that Congress recites to uphold the US Constitution....tell the staff member you’re speaking to, that Congress has failed in protecting our God ordained bedrock document that undergirds everything America stands for.

Now.....we either put up or shut up.......it doesn’t get any easier than the tasks I’ve suggested above. If everyone that receives this letter takes the action at the end of JB Williams article and makes the three calls, Congress will get the message and I have no doubt they will spread it among themselves and to the press.

Don’t stop calling or using the link on JB’s article after just one day...call every day, or more often if you can, right up to 11-11-11 or as close as you can...be respectful, thank the staffer for listening, but firm that we’ve had enough and action is forthcoming. Remember this is a free call, let’s get our patriot voices on the line today.

May God bless America and honor our noble efforts to restore constitutional government, freedom and liberty in the United States of America.

Harry Riley, COL, USA, Ret
hmriley@cox.net


39 posted on 10/24/2011 6:55:24 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: opentalk

Ain’t that just ducky


40 posted on 10/25/2011 1:28:10 AM PDT by dennisw (What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having - - Sting)
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To: opentalk

Note to all koranimals and their symphathizers:

I can’t wait to see you...


41 posted on 10/25/2011 3:06:15 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: opentalk; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...

This pretty much says all you need to know about this administration.

PING!


42 posted on 10/28/2011 5:13:47 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: opentalk

“Progressives” selling out their own women. The surprise of my life.


43 posted on 10/28/2011 7:52:14 PM PDT by firebrand (Why didn't they impeach him before he started the revolution?)
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To: opentalk

Even the most staunch pro-lifers concede that it may sometimes be necessary to sacrifice the baby for the life of the mother.


44 posted on 10/28/2011 7:53:34 PM PDT by firebrand (Why didn't they impeach him before he started the revolution?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Unfortunately for them, there’s this little thing called the First Amendment.


45 posted on 10/28/2011 9:49:40 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP

Like that’s going to stop this administration?


46 posted on 10/29/2011 2:15:51 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: opentalk; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; BufordP
“I’d be willing to give a shot at it,” said Aziz, who is a fellow at the Michigan-based Muslim advocacy group, the Institute for Social Policy & Understanding.

So why is there such a strong Muslim presence in Michigan and who is the Institute for Social Policy & Understanding

47 posted on 10/29/2011 4:52:01 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Mark Steyn, Thomas Sowell, Shelby Steele are good for the soul)
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