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Perry’s in-state tuition Works for Texas (and Utah..)
The New Texas Forum ^ | October 26, 2011 | Katie Thompson, Chairman of College Republicans at St. Edwards

Posted on 10/26/2011 12:34:55 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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Have you heard? “The government is subsidizing illegal immigration! The Texas DREAM Act grants amnesty! Illegal immigrants are going to college for FREE!”

Hold your horses, folks. These statements, which are hurled at Gov. Rick Perry from both sides of the political spectrum, are simply not true.

In-state tuition for illegal immigrants is a hard policy to argue because it rests on such a thin line between supporting education and rewarding law-breaking. Admittedly, the governor didn’t argue the case well when he said opponents of this policy “don’t have a heart.” (He’s since recanted that statement.) But the people of Texas and the law support it and, when you know the truth, the policy is really not as controversial as it sounds.

Let’s start with the facts.

Those officially qualified as residents of the state of Texas are eligible for reduced in-state tuition rates at public universities. Resident status, as defined by the Texas Education Code §54.052 and §54.053, requires the following:

* Citizens must have lived in Texas for a minimum of three years and have graduated from a Texas high school. * Non-citizens must have lived in Texas for a minimum of three years, have graduated from a Texas high school, and commit to starting the process of obtaining legal citizenship.

It’s that simple.

Critics say it’s a policy Texans don’t support. But it was overwhelmingly passed by the state legislature in 2001 with just five dissenting votes out of the 181 members in both houses. If that isn’t a majority, and a bipartisan one at that, I don’t know what is.

Other skeptics say it creates an unmanageable drain in tuition dollars and costs taxpayers millions. But in the 2010 fiscal year, only about 16,476 students out of 1.3 million, most at two-year community colleges, took the reduced rates. That’s about one percent – hardly a takeover of the public education system. The Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board estimated that, “assuming many of these students would enroll in less expensive schools or drop out altogether if faced with higher tuition costs,” the state would actually lose almost $92 million if the policy were repealed.

Still others say it’s the equivalent of amnesty. This is the one point that makes my internal alarm begin to chirp. I do not and will never condone illegal immigration or amnesty for illegal immigrants in any form – but the fact is, many of these students were brought to the U.S. by their parents. They are committing themselves to furthering their education, making a better life for themselves, and becoming productive citizens. This policy makes the best of a bad situation.

In the words of Geoffrey Tahuahua, Texas state chair of Students for Rick Perry, “Rather than allowing these kids to be a burden on the system, it’s better to encourage them to become educated contributors to our economy and our society.”

And Texas is not the only state to offer in-state tuition for illegal immigrants. According to CNN, California, Illinois, Kansas, Maryland, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, Oklahoma, Utah, Washington and Wisconsin have similar policies (though Wisconsin’s may be set to expire this year).

Bottom line, in-state tuition facilitates the education of young people and commits them to obtaining citizenship. That’s the crucial piece of the puzzle.

Finally, in-state tuition is just that: a state issue. Not once has Governor Perry advocated for the federal government or other states to adopt this policy. He has yet to indicate that he would do so as President. The fact is, this policy is legal, and it has no real negative consequences. Until the border is actually secured, I can see no reason to repeal this law.

You may not like it, but it works for Texas. And as y’all know, it’s never a good idea to mess with Texas.


TOPICS: Education; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 1struleofholes; aliens; amnesty; border; education; heartless; hispandering; illegalimmigration; instatetuition; keepdigging; moron; perry; perryastroturfing
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2002 Passed: In-State Tuition for Undocumented Students in Utah

March 1, 2011 Amended: Utah in-state tuition for non-citizens .........."The House did amend the bill to require undocumented students, their parents or guardian to pay state income taxes for three years as a condition of obtaining in-state tuition. The time period matches the amount of years a student must attend a Utah high school (and graduate) to be eligible for the benefit.

Wimmer said that's not an unreasonable expectation. "All we're asking is for a little personal responsibility," he said. "How could that be wrong?"

Rep. Rebecca Chavez-Houck, D-Salt Lake, said legislators could be treading on equal protection laws.

"It almost smacks of being a poll or special tax," she said.

As for HB191 itself, which ultimately passed 44-28, Rep. Kay McIff, R-Richfield, invoked Abraham Lincoln and Brown v. Board of Education Supreme Court ruling in arguing against it. He said it would discourage Latinos, whether citizens or not, from going to college.

"If we narrow the schoolhouse doors in any way, we go against our higher duty," he said.

Majority Assistant Whip Ronda Rudd Menlove, R-Garland, said everyone is frustrated over the federal government's inaction on illegal immigration. But "we're going to take out our frustration with a broken system … and punish 650 students."..

1 posted on 10/26/2011 12:35:01 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All; shield

Oct 6, 2011 Interviewing Rick Perry On Illegal Immigration [10 Points]

2 posted on 10/26/2011 12:36:14 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This policy makes sense, of course, given the constraints states face in regards to illegal immigration. A dozen states have similar policies.

Oh, in before the anti-Perry kill them illegals troll squad.


3 posted on 10/26/2011 12:41:04 PM PDT by magritte
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4 posted on 10/26/2011 12:42:04 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

No Thanks Anita. We’ll go with our conservative options.


5 posted on 10/26/2011 12:42:34 PM PDT by NoMitt
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Give it up. We know what your boy thinks of us. Now you know what we think of him.

Best thing he can do is just go away!

6 posted on 10/26/2011 12:43:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

How can they become productive citizens as this purports if they are not citizens? That argument alone makes it a form of dream act. It is like rewarding frequent flier miles to the thief who used tickets belonging to someone else.


7 posted on 10/26/2011 12:43:15 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Bullshit.

No. 1, why teach in Spanish and accomodate non-English speaking interlopers? Why not make English the Official Language in Texas, requiring NO PRINTING IN SPANISH of an State Documents, no Non-English text books, no Non-English signage of any kind produced by the State?

THEN, we'll believe this drivel.

8 posted on 10/26/2011 12:43:42 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Ingtar

“Committing to become Citizens” is a far cry from “Must become U.S. Citizens, prior to Application”.


9 posted on 10/26/2011 12:45:20 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

How any real American can support this is beyond me. Damn illegal-lovers.


10 posted on 10/26/2011 12:48:04 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: traditional1

He’s a stammering, stuttering, soft-on-illegals- Governor of Texas running for President.

Seems like we’ve seen this movie before. It didn’t end well.


11 posted on 10/26/2011 12:50:06 PM PDT by Grunthor (Poster may come off as abrasive, perhaps even rude. Consider this your warning.)
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To: buccaneer81

Texas passed it ten years ago.

If this is beyond you, ask Texans why they haven’t repealed it.


12 posted on 10/26/2011 12:51:20 PM PDT by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common - Voltaire)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Critics say it’s a policy Texans don’t support. But it was overwhelmingly passed by the state legislature in 2001 with just five dissenting votes out of the 181 members in both houses. If that isn’t a majority, and a bipartisan one at that, I don’t know what is.”

2001?????????????

Nice try to distort the issue. Yes, Americans as a whole were more receptive of illegals and amnesty back then (2001), because the tagline was that they were coming her to survive and for a better life, and that they were actively assimilating into American culture, not the other away around. In 2001, there really wasn’t up uproar.

Then around 2004/2005, the illegals started getting bold. They no longer wanted to concentrate on assimiliation. They DEMANDED rights. They started singing the National Anthem in Spanish and protesting in large numbers in majors cities with the Mexican flag. When people started to see that, that’s when the whole issue changed to no Amnesty.

Tancredo’s Opinion Column from August sums up the Majority view now (if it wasn’t the majority view, Perry’s numbers wouldn’t have tanked)
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61076.html


13 posted on 10/26/2011 12:51:37 PM PDT by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: magritte
Oh, in before the anti-Perry kill them illegals troll squad.

How about all the innocent US citizens killed by the sainted illegals?

14 posted on 10/26/2011 12:52:07 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: traditional1

“If you’ll give me enough money, I’ll commit to becoming a Democrat.” How is this commitment any different? What enforces it? Suppose they commit to try, do so, and are denied? Who pays the difference?


15 posted on 10/26/2011 12:52:27 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
But the people of Texas and the law support it

HORSE SH*T! I have kids in college and one was roomed in the dorms with one of those DREAM ACT illegals. Talk about a free ride. You do NOT want me to get started on this soap box. NO YOU DO NOT! There is not one Texan I know of that supports this crap.

16 posted on 10/26/2011 12:53:52 PM PDT by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: silverleaf
Texas legislators passed it. I would hate to think that most Texans support the invasion.
17 posted on 10/26/2011 12:54:55 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A 2010 Texas Tribune Poll found that 77% of Texans OPPOSE in-state tuition for illegals.

It doesn’t “work” for Texas. It’s being crammed down our throats.

Gov. Perry will NEVER rationalize away this issue to the satisfaction of conservatives. So long as you - and him - keep defending this blatant catering to illegal entry, his campaign is going to stay in the single digits.


18 posted on 10/26/2011 12:55:43 PM PDT by ziravan (You don't have to be a rocket scientist to be President. . . but it helps!)
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To: muawiyah
"Perry’s in-state tuition Works for Texas (and Utah..)"

Good for them, THEY CAN KEEP IT, and Perry with it. As for the rest of "HEARTLESS" America, we DON'T want any part of Perry or his plan to bring his ILLEGAL ALIENS FIRST or "love ILLEGAL ALIEN in-state tuition" policies to the rest of America.

As you so aptly said: "Give it up. We know what your boy thinks of us. Now you know what we think of him."

"Best thing he can do is just go away!"

19 posted on 10/26/2011 12:56:31 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil and from those perpetuating it, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: buccaneer81

can’t be a state citizen of any state unless you are or become a US citizen first - that is codified federal law from what I’ve read.


20 posted on 10/26/2011 12:58:19 PM PDT by jurroppi1
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To: shield
As of today, your boy is polling at 4% in Ohio.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

21 posted on 10/26/2011 12:58:38 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
And Texas is not the only state to offer in-state tuition for illegal immigrants.

But Texas IS the only state where Perry has been Governor and pushed this policy!

Does Texas give in-state tuition rates to all criminals, not just those that violate our border? If I were an out of state student who wanted to go to college in Texas (Lord knows why?) I would do better to go to Mexico, sneak across the border - then I could get the in-state tuition rates!

22 posted on 10/26/2011 12:59:35 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It is terrible policy, and it is a form of amnesty. All that can be said for Perry on this one is that a veto would have been utterly futile and the feds aren’t doing their job. Everyone of the these “scholars” should be deported back to their countries of origin. They have received enough stolen goods and services from the citizens of the US and Texas.

I have defended Perry on other threads and would vote for him, but this policy can only be defended by a corrupt form of sentimentality.


23 posted on 10/26/2011 1:00:00 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Critics say it’s a policy Texans don’t support. But it was overwhelmingly passed by the state legislature in 2001 with just five dissenting votes out of the 181 members in both houses. If that isn’t a majority, and a bipartisan one at that, I don’t know what is.

If it was put forth to be voted on by the CITIZENS of Texas, it would show that indeed the majority of us are against it. The legislature didn't ask us ... they went around us and passed it.

24 posted on 10/26/2011 1:01:35 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
La Raza Rick is encouraging more illegals to come and get educations for their kids that he and his political cronies are subsidizing in preference to the kids of actual citizens.

Perry supporters, like Perry himself desire to give Illegals that come here from Columbia to sell drugs a subsidized price on educating their kids. Much better than offering such to a Marine Corps combat veteran from Kentucky who wants to send his kids to a Texas university.

Perry and his sycophants will not remain unchallenged. His position and their position is what it is.

25 posted on 10/26/2011 1:02:07 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: traditional1

No state can simply enforce “English only” because of liberal court decisions. Or, perhaps we should and tell the feds to screw themselves.


26 posted on 10/26/2011 1:02:48 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: silverleaf

We’re working on it. It absolutely is an election issue for state legistators. Many of the people who rammed it through were gotten rid of over their support for the TTC.

Thank you for playing.


27 posted on 10/26/2011 1:04:51 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: buccaneer81
Yeah! let's blame the the Governor of Texas for our displeasure over the Federal Government's failure to secure the border! It's all his fault that he has to deal with 1.1 to 1.2 million illegals living in Texas! We should all hate him because he was the governor of a state for a few months that decided to pass a law that tried to turn some of them into tax payers because we can't kick them out and have to educate them, provide them with medical care and feed them because they have given birth to American citizens! It's ALL PERRY'S FAULT!!!

You may want to remember that Perry is the guy who kills illegals who murders Americans in Texas while the rest of the Government cries and begs him not to.

28 posted on 10/26/2011 1:05:41 PM PDT by txroadkill (Antlers up! The Claw must be feared! Back2Back American League Champions!)
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To: magritte

Perry went from 30% to 6% in just a few weeks, after defending this bill. The people have spoken. If he continues to defend this nonsense he will be out of the race before the first primary. That he fails to recognize why this offends ordinary American citizens is just more evidence why he lacks the judgement to get the Republican nomination.


29 posted on 10/26/2011 1:06:39 PM PDT by Azzurri
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To: al_c; All

From reading the first 24 posts it seems that critics are Ok with illegals gong to college in Texas; they just want to charge them more.


30 posted on 10/26/2011 1:09:47 PM PDT by csmusaret (The only borders Obama has closed is a bookstore.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Works for Texas - cool.

I still hate it for the USA. And I won't vote for any politician who thinks any kind of incentive for illegal aliens at all is OK.

Its that simple.

31 posted on 10/26/2011 1:09:57 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: parksstp

That's -- I'm running for office, for Pete's sake, I can't have illegals. [video clip] -- Mitt Romney, GOP presidential debate - October 18, 2011 - Las Vegas, NV

Rudy Giuliani asked Mitt Romney the same question in the 2008 CNN debate that Rick Perry asked him during the CNN 2011 debate -- Mitt lost it both times.

Nov 28, 2008 CNN-YouTube Debate: Sound familiar? [LOOK who interrupts whom!!]

Funny Accent Mitt Romney, discussing reports illegal immigrants did landscaping at his home: It would "not be American" to check workers' papers simply because they have a "funny accent." [acknowledges need for giving health care and education to illegals]

Sound familiar? Mike Huckabee, replying to Romney's criticism of providing college scholarships to children of illegal immigrants: "In all due respect, we are a better country than to punish children for what their parents did."

At the same debate: John McCain: "We must recognize these are God's children as well. ... I will enforce the borders first. But we won't demagogue it."

32 posted on 10/26/2011 1:10:14 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; magritte
Still others say it’s the equivalent of amnesty. This is the one point that makes my internal alarm begin to chirp. I do not and will never condone illegal immigration or amnesty for illegal immigrants in any form – but the fact is, many of these students were brought to the U.S. by their parents. They are committing themselves to furthering their education, making a better life for themselves, and becoming productive citizens. This policy makes the best of a bad situation.

This is the convoluted equivalent of saying "make the most of being raped". Honestly, you say you're against illegals and amnesty and then in the same damned breath say "make the best of it".....the fact that you call them students doesn't amount to a hill of beans - all I see are a bunch of trouble makers La Razing it up on Reconquista day at school ala California.

Sheesh! Stop with the justifications and weird rationalizations about illegals, tuition and amnesty. Your own laws as part of its implementation say "must commit to taking the steps to citizenship". You neglect that the very fact they are here is illegal, whether brought here or walking across the border on on their own two feet. That fact disqualifies them by current written law.

You'd be better off letting the tuition thing dying down and stop rationalizing. I think his tax plan is worth talking about more than his penchant for saying the rest of us don't have a heart.

33 posted on 10/26/2011 1:10:40 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: txroadkill
What a silly, lame rant.

Does the word principle mean anything to you?

34 posted on 10/26/2011 1:12:13 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: achilles2000

Or, perhaps we should and tell the feds to screw themselves.

Maybe we should organize a Tea Party? We're past the "should" stage. We are "doing" it. And the broad lack of grass roots support for Perry and Romney are evidence of that. I find them insignificant at this stage. Either one of the genuine conservatives will be our next President, or I will focus on local and congressional elections so as to stymie Obama's Marxist agenda throughout his second term. Romney is no more likely to beat Obama than McCain was -- McCain who spanked Romney last go 'round. Perry is even less popular than Romney. Considering either of these two as "front runners" is an incredible waste of talking points. Those two are the only way to guarantee four more years of Obama and his ilk.


35 posted on 10/26/2011 1:13:46 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: txroadkill

It’s not that he isn’t rigorous on other aspects of the illegal infestation. It’s the fact that he said the rest of us don’t have a heart in the face of Texas’ capitulation that they can’t do anything about illegals already here. In effect Texas is paying ‘protection’ money to keep the illegals toned down. It’s not his fault that the Fed won’t round them up, but he doesn’t have to push his values on the rest of us in a national debate saying “we don’t have a heart.”


36 posted on 10/26/2011 1:14:09 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: ziravan
A 2010 Texas Tribune Poll found that 77% of Texans OPPOSE in-state tuition for illegals.

What an inconvenient statistic for the Perrywinkles!

From what I see of nationwide polling on the issue, that is fairly reflective of Americans as a whole.

Common sense tells us that if you put out more things to cater to illegal immigrants, you will get more illegal immigrants.

Given that Texas has a significantly higher Hispanic population than the rest of the nation, it would be wise to see why Texan opposition to perks for illegals is pretty much the same there as it is nationwide.

The only logical conclusion is that legal U.S. Citizens of Hispanic origin (the ideological descendants of those which also fought against Santa Ana at the Alamo) are even more opposed to perks for illegals than their Anglo counterparts. Ya think?

37 posted on 10/26/2011 1:14:25 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Gaffer
It’s the fact that he said the rest of us don’t have a heart...

That he has apologized for and he said it in the context that the other option was to kick children (who broke the law because their parents made them) to the curb.

Was it a dumb thing to say? Hell yeah it was, but it does not define his immigration or border policy.

A Governor has to deal with the reality not desire. There are at least 1.1 million illegals here sucking up tax money and hurting his state, he has to play the cards he has not the cards he wants.

38 posted on 10/26/2011 1:29:24 PM PDT by txroadkill (Antlers up! The Claw must be feared! Back2Back American League Champions!)
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To: buccaneer81

The ILLEGAL lovers who defend La Raza Ricky don’t know or have it I guess. These ILLEGAL criminals invading our nation and eating away at it’s foundation like a cancer must be stopped. From 30% down to 3% or 4% in a quick time following his calling us all “heartless” shows most Americans do not buy into Ricarrdo’s ILLEGAL loving plans for us no matter how hard he tries.


39 posted on 10/26/2011 1:33:10 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: Azzurri

Hey, there’s been a ton of lies about Perry “open borders, forcing little girls to have sex shots, free tuition for illegals” etc. It takes time and money to correct these lies.


40 posted on 10/26/2011 1:34:05 PM PDT by magritte
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To: buccaneer81

Hey, my understanding from the anti-illegal crowd that it’s open season on illegals ‘cause they’re invaders, so grab up yer gun and have at them!


41 posted on 10/26/2011 1:36:01 PM PDT by magritte
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To: txroadkill
His apology, which I never heard, is all well and good. However, the US Presidency is not OJT; that's what we have now OJT for a socialist Muslim. He said what was in his heart - or he was lying. Which is it? A candidate that does not come even close to understanding the vehement dislike that, I think, the majority of the rest of this country have over illegals (at least the ones that aren't illegals). Dissemblers who try to play both sides of this issue will lose big time. That's why Perry slid so far so quick.
42 posted on 10/26/2011 1:37:06 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: buccaneer81
Texas doesn't support the invasion, Texas has spent hundreds of millions of state dollars to stop it. I'm beginning to believe that many of Texas's critics really would like for the Federal Government to have the power to override in-state tuition laws. The Federal Government could have prevented the problem by doing what it has the power to do: secure the border. The Feds didn't do that and now, decades later, the border states have a mess to deal with as best as they can.
43 posted on 10/26/2011 1:41:16 PM PDT by Quicksilver (Defeat Obama - zero-sum games will get us Zero, again.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If we are going to let illegals stay for years then we need to treat them like equals instead of an underclass. If they can prove they lived in Texas long enough to meet the residency requirements, let them have the in-state tuition. If we enforce the existing law and deported them, tuition wouldn’t be an issue.

I don’t have a problem with in-state tuition.

I have a problem with not enforcing existing immigration law and letting them stay here.

And if what I’ve heard about legal green card recipients, being able to work in the U.S. tax exempt is true, then we are actually providing incentives to hire non-citizens.


44 posted on 10/26/2011 1:42:43 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Grunthor

“Seems like we’ve seen this movie before. It didn’t end well.”

Except Bush was probably smarter than Perrywinkle. Oh my gosh, I can’t imagine GWB being smarter than anyone. Better than the alternatives in 2000 and 2004, but still an unmitigated disaster.

perrywinkle is just a dumber Marlboro man.

Hi cincinatus’ wife...you must have the vapors for his huckster.


45 posted on 10/26/2011 1:44:43 PM PDT by Carl from Marietta (Herman Cain 2012..get on the CAIN train! Content of Character, that's the ticket!)
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To: Grunthor

“Seems like we’ve seen this movie before. It didn’t end well.”

Except Bush was probably smarter than Perrywinkle. Oh my gosh, I can’t imagine GWB being smarter than anyone. Better than the alternatives in 2000 and 2004, but still an unmitigated disaster.

perrywinkle is just a dumber Marlboro man.

Hi cincinatus’ wife...you must have the vapors for this huckster.


46 posted on 10/26/2011 1:44:49 PM PDT by Carl from Marietta (Herman Cain 2012..get on the CAIN train! Content of Character, that's the ticket!)
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To: txroadkill
A Governor has to deal with the reality not desire. There are at least 1.1 million illegals here sucking up tax money and hurting his state, he has to play the cards he has not the cards he wants.

So the illegals feigned a Royal Flush and the governor of Texas decides to fold? How about calling their bluff and providing no access to Texas universities without proving legal status? What were the illegals going to do, move to California or another state? Good riddance if they did, let them be some other state's problem. Instead he chose to continue providing them benefits and attracting EVEN MORE illegals to enter.

48 posted on 10/26/2011 1:47:24 PM PDT by Azzurri
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To: Carl from Marietta

I liked it both times.


49 posted on 10/26/2011 1:47:27 PM PDT by Carl from Marietta (Herman Cain 2012..get on the CAIN train! Content of Character, that's the ticket!)
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To: achilles2000
If you can't speak or understand English and your parents can't teach you to speak English before you get to school then don't expect to stay in the USA.

Do-over is coming.

50 posted on 10/26/2011 1:50:59 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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