Skip to comments.The power of Tim Tebow, Colorado, and the 2012 presidential election
Posted on 10/26/2011 9:10:23 PM PDT by techno
If you follow the NFL, you know that Tim Tebow is now the starting quarterback (QB) for the Denver Broncos and even if you are geographically challenged you probably also know that Denver is in the state of Colorado.
And you also probably know Tim Tebow is extremely charismatic and religious and pro-life and leads a "squeaky-clean life and is very outspoken about his personal and religious beliefs.
And you probably also know he is as hated and despised by sports pundits as Sarah Palin is hated and despised by political pundits.
Well here is where the NFL intersects with 2012 presidential politics.
If you take the blue states and Colorado that President Obama won in 2008 you will come up with 260 electoral votes in Obama's column. This tally does not include the battleground states of Ohio, Indiana, Virginia, NC and Florida which in 2012 will amount to 86 electoral votes.
And I am not going to bury my head in the sand: Without Sarah Palin in the 2012 race, Mitt Romney is assured of the GOP nomination. And I am predicting in 2012 he will win all 5 battleground states.
And because of my prediction of Romney being the GOP standard-bearer next year, I am also going to predict Obama is going to win the state of Georgia (GA) by a narrow margin and capture its 16 electoral votes.
And the basis of my prediction is the growing population of Blacks and Hispanics in Atlanta since the last election and a less than stellar turnout among evangelicals who cannot bring themselves to vote for Romney because of his religion and his moderate views and Romneycare. But the statistical reason for my prediction is that unlike all other states with very high evangelical populations in comparison with the overall electorate where Obama lost by double digits in 2008, the Messiah only lost GA by 5.2% to McCain.
And ex Georgia GOP Congressman Bob Barr has also offered these sentiments. He of all people should know the lay of the land and how Georgians feel about Romney.
In other words even if Romney wins back all 5 battleground states under this scenario he will still lose even if Obama loses NH (4 EV) or Nevada (6 EV).
Imho, the only chance Romney has to beat Obama is he must win Colorado with its 9 EV.
And this where Tim Tebow comes in. Project ahead. Let's say Tebow takes the Denver Broncos to the playoffs this season (don't forget Tom Brady took over the 2001 Patriots at 0-2 who everybody thought were destined for the cellar after Drew Bledsoe was injured), he will have a tremendous amount of impact and sway on the thoughts and feelings of many Coloradoans. And that would be even more than he has now in Colorado.
And then project ahead a year from now where Tebow can do no wrong in Colorado and he does a political ad for a pro-life or conservative/religious group encouraging conservatives and evangelicals to get out and vote. Tebow doesn't have to come out and say he opposes Obama--the code language between evangelicals will be in play and that will be enough.
Will enough residents of Colorado vote for the GOP or vote when they weren't inclined to do so and tip the balance so that Romney wins Colorado and the 2012 presidential election?
Presidential Obama doesn't want to find out and neither does his team.
Imho, there will over the next year both a sporting and political effort by pundits and nefarious establishment and Leftist forces aided and abetted by the media (CNN and ESPN) to take down Tim Tebow and it could reach the point of threatening the owner or management of the Broncos with federal penalties or investigations if they do not see that Tebow fails in his effort to win football games or do not cut him from the team.
Obviously if Tebow is no longer the first-string QB or is cut from the team, he will no longer be a major threat to Obama in Colorado
And I would not put it past Team Obama and George Soros to try to bribe NFL officials to ensure that Tebow is more likely to lose than to win football games.
Team Obama knows: Lose Colorado and there is a good chance Obama will not get a second term.
Conservatives, it's time we all become Denver Broncos' fans.
For those who think I am insane, ask yourself is there anything Team Obama wouldn't do to ensure a second term for the Messiah?
Romney won’t even be close to Obama.
He’s the only one who is easy to beat.
I agree that with no Sarah in the race, he’s the certain nominee.
You actually suggested that the Denver Broncos may make the playoffs.
So, yes, you are insane.
Tebow loses 5 straight later this season and they will be calling for his head. Six losses in a row and he will be the political equivalent of Michael Vick in his dog years. America loves a winner. Romney would never be governor in a conservative state. Mass was his liberal home. Maybe Tebow could get Mitt to convert to Christianity?
I thought my political sanity would be questioned, not my football sanity.
That is a pleasant surprise.
For your info the Chargers lead the division at 4-2 and play the Chiefs on Monday in Kansas City who are now 3-3. The Raiders have the bye.
If KC beats San Diego and the Broncos beat the Detroit Lions on Sunday here are those revised standings in the AFC West:
If this happens as the saying goes, “It’s a whole new ballgame.”
I’d like to see Tebow do well because he’s a good kid and so many pundits are dismissive of his chances of being a successful NFL QB, but can’t quite get behind your position that his success will equate to GOP electoral success. ...especially if, God forbid, Romney is the nominee.
Exactly. And Obama would have nothing to worry about.
The premise is so ludicrous that I won't bother.
Of course the premise is based on an individual wanting the GOP nominee to win the presidential election.
Obviously if you don’t, then it doesn’t matter how Tebow does.
romney’s the candidate because everyone else steps back? Doubtful. The gop is seeing it’s power wane. The electorate is economically panicking and anything goes. romney is a no sell.
True, it’s a pretty weak division. The Chargers probably have the most talent, and they usually get going the 2nd half of the season. The Broncs would have to finish 1st — their wildcard chances are very slim.
We need Colorado no matter who gets the GOP nod. I’m for Cain, and I agree Tebow could make a difference there, if he gets on a win streak.
Politics is strange, whoever thought we’d be rooting for another black man and a quarterback.
But, seriously, the Lions are NOT going to lose 3 games in a row. I hope Tebow plays well, but the Lions will "almost certainly" win.
Notice the quotation marks. That means I'm off the hook if the Lions lose.
I couldn't ever vote for Obama, unless he was running against Holder. Then hari kari for me?
With Romney as the Republican it doesn’t really matter a whole lot which wins the presidency. If Romney gets it the bureaucracy will not be trimmed and will not be cleansed of its leftist fanatics. New appointments will be leftist pragmatists instead of ignorant fanatics. Romney will have more rapport with the Republican Congress and will do some of the things that Need To Be Done and socialism will advance more than it has since 2008. Actually there will be a difference. Things might not get better under the kenyan domestically but the opposition to his socialism- because he is a Democrat- will keep things from getting worse so fast as they would under Romney. Romney will get socialist and anti life judges on the federal courts, probably on the USSC. The Republicans just might(not likely though) refuse to confirm the same kind of judges if it is the kenyan who proposes them.
I am a Patriots fan. There was no way in hell that I thought the Giants would beat the Pats in the Super Bowl.
And I would lay odds that Tebow has a chance to upset the Detroit Lions this Sunday.
In the words of Lloyd Bentsen to Dan Quayle in the 1988 debate in football language:
Sir, the Detroit Lions are not as good as the NY Giants were a few years ago.
Romney is not going to be nominated. Problem solved.
Theres two colorado Conservatives living in my house in Colorado Springs. hard to believe I know, But a man and his very loving bride. /sarcasm.
Both Left Coast transplants too!
I think your assumption that Romney wins the nomination is a little premature (he has nearly 100% name recognition among active Republican voters and can’t break 30% after 5 years of campaigning).
Also, you idea that Georgia will somehow fall to Obama because of an increase in black and hispanic voters is ludicrous. How ludicrous?
John McCain won Georgia by 5% of the vote. That was a 200,000 voter margin. Consider these numbers. Between the census figure of 2000 and 2010, Georgia grew by 1,501,200. On average that was 150,000 a year. If the average trend stayed the same, that would mean that in the last 4 years, Georgia added 600,000 people.
If all 600,000 were old enough to vote, then there would be right at 200,000 more blacks and hispanics (29% of Georgia is black, 5% is hispanic).
But that assumes that Obama gets 50% of the remaining 400,000 whites that would be eligible to vote. Reasonable? Not a chance.
Assuming turn out was about equal regardless of race then 29% of the total vote in Georgia in 2008 would be right at 1,137,925 which we will say represents the black vote. If Obama were to have recieved a very low 90% of the black vote, that would put the number of black votes he recieved at 1,024,133. That means that out of 1,844,123, only 819,990 were from non-black voters.
Assuming McCain drew a very large 10% of the black vote (or 113,792), that means that out of 2,048,759 votes, 1,934,967 were non-black votes.
McCain won the non-black vote by 70% to 30% using those very generous for Obama numbers.
That means if there were 600,000 new voters added to Georgia’s population, and if 1/3 of them were blacks and hispanics that ALL voted for Obama, Obama would still need to swing the new white voters by 20% in order to win Georgia.
I believe the officials decide more close games then the players in the NFL, so it could happen, but Cain is going to be pulling the train.
I held my nose and voted for McCain and will probably do the same for Romney if he wins the nomination. (I would vote for Romney over McCain in that hypothetical - the main selling points on McCain were his age and his VP nominee.)
I do wish someone else in the field would get some traction. I’m not sold on Cain yet, but I’m still open to the possibility. Maybe he can get Palin to do the VP gig again so we can just chop the Mc off of the old bumper stickers.
Bob Barr doesn’t think the premise of Obama winning Georgia is ridiculous and neither does GOP Georgian political consultant Mark Roundtree.
In what respect?
That Tebow could take the Broncos to the playoffs or that Colorado could prove pivotal in the electoral college in 2012.
“And I would not put it past Team Obama and George Soros to try to bribe NFL officials to ensure that Tebow is more likely to lose than to win football games.”
I bet the Bilderbergs, Trilateral Commission, the KGB and the quarter used in Bronco game coin flips are also in on this conspiracy.
And if I met the Pope tomorrow I could be beatified. :)
Become a Chargers fan instead. :)
LOL @ this theory.
In CO, Tom Tancredo > Tim Tebow. Would the greatest human being college football player in the history of all mankind be able to save Rick Perry in a state that views immigration as pretty dang important? I think not. So what makes you think they’ll be fooled by an even bigger RINO in Mitt Romney. Running moderates in CO have about the same effect as they do in VA, which isn’t a very good track record.
Now, if Obama had a pulse, he could pull off GA, but Obama is so weak, he isn’t going to be able to take advantage of it. Whatever “independents” come out to vote in GA will almost certainly vote GOP or third party.
These numbers aren’t too bad for McCain. The final tally made it look closer than what it really was. McCain won GA by roughly 205,000 votes. And this, despite the fact that Obama picked up over 500,000 more votes than Kerry. Even if McCain hadn’t picked up any additional votes from Bush’s 2004 margin, who would have still won GA by about 70,000 votes. And like other states, McCain ran poorly among women, moderates, and young people.
It is highly doubtful Obama, as weak as he is will be able to maintain the same level of support he got in 2008. Assuming that Obama stayed at the same level, Romney could lose almost 10% of McCain’s vote total and still win GA. But Obama, while he’ll lead the categories he lead last time, it won’t be as dominant, and he’ll have no chance to capitalize in GA, just like he wouldn’t have a chance to capitalize in any of the other red states from 2008.
Hell, I didn’t think it possible the 49ers would beat the Lions the way the Lions were playing at that point. I certainly didn’t expect the Lions to lose two in a row. Now, however, I won’t discount the possibility.
Talking straight football here and nothing else (been a football fan since the 50s and was actually at the Ice Bowl) ... Tebow is not the answer for the Broncos. Great kid, but can’t play NFL QB.
i stopped reading at this point.
I would, if Obama and Soros are seriously wasting their money bribing refs, good, because thats money they could have spent better somewhere else.
BTW, If Bret Farve, being a legend at one time in the state of Wis, couldn't deliver that state, with phone calls and campaigning, then Tebow isn't going to deliver Colorado.
Also, someone out there check this for me, but I think John Elway is a republican too, and it didn't do a lick of good for the GOP, Dan Marino is a big big republican, and that hasn't made a difference in Florida (Shula is a republican too). Joe Gibbs was/is a big Republican, and I doubt that he helped much. I also don't think Kurt Warner made a difference in any election either, though he is a big and proud supporter of the GOP. Mike Ditka used to be king of Illinois, and he isn't going to turn that state red.
We haven't even gotten to New Englands other son, Joe Brady, and last election, the entire region went blue, and he actually appeared for Bush at a SOTU speech. Sports endorsements are not a big deal, and don't carry much weight, no matter how popular the figure in question is.
Sam Bradford is also an outspoken Christian. Is the NFL trying to sabotage the Rams so Obama can win Missouri’s electoral votes? Or do the Rams just suck anyway?
The two premises are not mutually exclusive.
Your conspiracy falls apart right off the bat on that point alone.
Conservatives, it's time we all become Denver Broncos' fans.
I'd...rather...die...first. Go Chiefs!
I’ll put my reputation of political prediction up against Barr and Roundtree. Mark this down, Obama will lose Georgia by at least 8% come November 2012 regardless of who we have as the nominee.
I remember that old joke about a guy who got news he has an incurable life threatening disease -so he gets on his knees and prays :God— Just let me live long enough to see the Broncos’ win the Superbowl.” And he hears a voice from the heavens—it took a miracle to get them there when Elway was QB. Do you really expect to live long enough to see a repeat?
I cannot vote for Romney . Especially since Christie jumped on that bandwagon. A jack Mormon and an apostate Christian is two too many infidels for me to support in a government that has divorced itself from God already.
FYI, I was at the hotel in Redwood Shores where the Chiefs were staying last Saturday before the Oakland game. You will note that this is across the Bay from Oakland, well away from your typical Oakland fans. I am quite certain this was not by chance.
Going down to the lobby for breakfast and such a couple times Sunday AM, I was sort of wondering why there were all these well-dressed big young guys in the hotel mid-morning on a Sunday. After the 2nd trip downstairs, I looked out my window at the ballroom entrance, and there were three tour buses, two CHP escorts, and a big manager dude in a KC polo shirt counting noses as people loaded up. Shortly thereafter a guy came running out, he and the manager got on one of the buses, and the motorcade headed out.
Having been at Arrowhead when the Raiders are in town and having seen their fans, I would agree.
And at the end of the day it was well-dressed big young 28 and the Forces of Darkness zero.
Oh yeah, I was watching the Packers-Vikings game for most of my flight, which left about the time KC at Oakland was starting, and was not at all unhappy to see Oakland with a goose egg in the bottom of screen ticker the whole time.
Watching the Tv last weekend my wife asked me to call down to the Chief’s Arrowhead office and tell them that someone had stolen the Chief’s uniforms and gone out to Oakland and whipped the crud out of the Raiders.
Who were those guys and where were they the first three games?
Well let's not get overly excited. Their first three games were against teams that are currently 13 and 6. Their last three were against teams that are currently 5 and 16. I'm still going to be surprised if the Chiefs finish over .500.
That one could have a major impact on the other.
You can’t go just half way over to the dark side - someone with your screen name ought to know that.
Never was a Tebow fan( can’t stand UF), but he would be the best Prez out of those three. Heh.
Tebow does look good in comparison to Kyle Orton.
Sort of like a comparison of Romney and Obama. No, that doesn’t work, since Tebow is actually a quarterback, unlike Romney’s GOP credentials.
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