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Underemployed And Hating Life (millions of smart, hard working folks are working dead end jobs)
The Economic Collapse Blog ^ | October 21, 2011 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 10/27/2011 1:58:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 10/27/2011 2:20:33 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Today, millions of smart, hard working Americans are flipping burgers, waiting tables or working dead end retail jobs not because they want to, but because they have no other options. According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, about 14 million Americans are currently unemployed and another 9.3 million Americans are currently "underemployed".


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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: default; freetrade; jobs; traitors; treason; underemployed; unemployment
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1 posted on 10/27/2011 1:58:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Not everyone can be the CEO.


2 posted on 10/27/2011 2:02:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m one of them - unemployed


3 posted on 10/27/2011 2:02:54 PM PDT by siamesecats (God closes one door, and opens another, to protect us.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Today, millions of smart, hard working Americans are flipping burgers, waiting tables or working dead end retail jobs not because they want to, but because they have no other options.

If they really are that smart and hard-working, they will gradually move up through the ranks. A good employee is worth his or her weight in gold.

4 posted on 10/27/2011 2:05:46 PM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I worked at IBM for some years and watched them gut the U.S. work force while creating tens of thousands of jobs in India.

Wall St. forces a focus on ‘the quarter’, which results in myopic corporations and CEO’s to lose anything resembling long-term vision. The impact on the country figures not a jot in their calculus....trust me. Zero. Nada.

Add to that the uncertainty within the business community due to the idiots in Washington, crushing taxes and bureaucratic regulations and “compliance”, moronic Socialists in government at the State and Federal levels, and a general dumbing down of our populace via an insipid public school/university system, you have a recipe not just for disaster, but for the end of a once-great societal experiment.


5 posted on 10/27/2011 2:08:22 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: siamesecats

I’m one of them too. Self-employed, out of work, and no unemployment to collect.


6 posted on 10/27/2011 2:08:48 PM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: SeekAndFind

I say voting has consequences, how many voted for this turd and not used thier so called intelligence before they did.


7 posted on 10/27/2011 2:11:57 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: Oberon

Didn’t Herman Cain start in the food/restaurant business by actually flipping burgers and making pizza?


8 posted on 10/27/2011 2:13:03 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: SeekAndFind

Have any of these drama queers ever though of coming up with a good idea and starting their own business?

Earn your first place ribbon, dumbass!


9 posted on 10/27/2011 2:13:45 PM PDT by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: SeekAndFind

We are meant to pursue God with a passion.

Work is for putting food in our mouths and a roof over our heads.


10 posted on 10/27/2011 2:15:20 PM PDT by donna (Americans now owe more on student loans than on credit cards.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is the endgame. This is what you get with conceited moronic theories of free trade. This is what you get with outsourcing. People got very rich selling out America, this is one thing the OWS protestors have right.


11 posted on 10/27/2011 2:15:20 PM PDT by dennisw (What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having - - Sting)
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To: SeekAndFind

I m in this boat. I am self employed - busting my ass, Accounts Receivable is horrendous, and barely have anything left ofer after bills, insurance, e o insurance, office rent, staff, etc.

It sucks. My GF can’t understand what this is like and it adds a lot of street to the situation.


12 posted on 10/27/2011 2:15:41 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: SeekAndFind

Underemployed and Hating Socialism...

It’s the socialism, stupid.


13 posted on 10/27/2011 2:16:24 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: SeekAndFind
Today, millions of smart, hard working Americans are flipping burgers, waiting tables or working dead end retail jobs not because they want to, but because they have no other options.

So a days hard work is now evil and detested in the USA.

Besides, truthfully, if they are "smart" and "hard working" they aren't flipping burgers for very long.

It has become a status symbol any more to sit on your a$$ and not earn a dime but get paid a millionaires wages.

14 posted on 10/27/2011 2:17:20 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: SeekAndFind
The author of this piece, Michael Snyder, makes some harsh but valid points. We can bloviate all day long about all the stupid, harmful things done by various administrations and congresses that got us into the terrible economic state we're in today but the bitter truth is that when you're unemployed with no real prospects and your middle class life is slipping away or you're 'lucky' enough to be working at some crummy part-time job for just over minimum wage simply to stay afloat, economically, coming home tired and discouraged and feeling like a loser, all the lofty economic theories and 'jobs' plans the politicians put out there, including tax reform plans, as necessary as they are, ring hollow. I've read that President Jimmy Carter never actually said "malaise" but even if he didn't, that is what too many Americans are feeling, today. I fear that this cannot end well for America.
15 posted on 10/27/2011 2:19:26 PM PDT by Jim Scott (on the 'Cain Train')
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To: Oberon

“If they really are that smart and hard-working, they will gradually move up through the ranks. A good employee is worth his or her weight in gold.”

Not always. One of the worst things about working at a crummy job are the crummy managers that you have to work for, especially the affirmative action managers. If you are an educated white male working in some workplaces you have to keep your mouth shut while the affirmative action managers take credit for work done by others. Bad managers don’t recognize good employees. I am in a job like that now. I am looking for something better, but there is not much to chose from.


16 posted on 10/27/2011 2:19:40 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: cripplecreek

And where, does this article say that all these college graduates think they should be CEO?

Oh, that’s right, they didn’t.

What a brainless, didn’t get the point, comment.


17 posted on 10/27/2011 2:21:50 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just another bunch of people complaining again about “free trade”.


18 posted on 10/27/2011 2:22:30 PM PDT by CGalen
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To: forgotten man

A lot of managers will find any way they can to fire somebody they think is a threat to their job.


19 posted on 10/27/2011 2:22:49 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Oberon
If they really are that smart and hard-working, they will gradually move up through the ranks. A good employee is worth his or her weight in gold.

LOL! You haven't worked for an American company have you? Intelligence and work ethic mean nothing, the ability to kiss ass and the MBA's rule of taking care of their own is what will get you ahead.

Do you really think all these "Senior vice presidents for global support services", "Director of Communications for the East Coast", “Vice President of Mission Related Services”, “Vice President of Administrative Services”, etc, etc, etc that infest every American buisness got where they are by working hard and being intelligent?

20 posted on 10/27/2011 2:23:05 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: EGPWS
Besides, truthfully, if they are "smart" and "hard working" they aren't flipping burgers for very long.

You're missing something. That's only true when the President is Reagan.

Obama is using government and unions to destroy jobs. No longer is it a matter of being willing to work hard; it is a matter of the long arm of government stopping hard work.

21 posted on 10/27/2011 2:23:31 PM PDT by donna (Americans now owe more on student loans than on credit cards.)
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To: EGPWS
Besides, truthfully, if they are "smart" and "hard working" they aren't flipping burgers for very long.

Think so? You're quite mistaken. There are a lot of jobs for which there is no up--no possibility of promotion. If you're not young enough, if you're not the right color or ethnicity, you are not going to get promoted even if you save the company's bacon.

22 posted on 10/27/2011 2:24:32 PM PDT by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: EGPWS
So a days hard work is now evil and detested in the USA.

God Knows how many Americans have spent their whole lives working those "Dead end jobs" and never complained a bit. The derision heaped on manual labor in this country is disgusting.
23 posted on 10/27/2011 2:25:22 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: Oberon

“If they really are that smart and hard-working, they will gradually move up through the ranks. A good employee is worth his or her weight in gold. “


And then your company is bought out or shipped out and you are the smartest most hard-working guy on the unemployed line.


24 posted on 10/27/2011 2:25:45 PM PDT by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: SeekAndFind

I too am one! Unemployed! In my area there are way more people then jobs, 5 for every one job. Many low level admin or cashier positions get upwards of 100 applicants.


25 posted on 10/27/2011 2:26:24 PM PDT by seeker41 (CULPRIT CHINESE COMPANY INFO.)
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To: TruthConquers
What a brainless, didn’t get the point, comment.

So they can all be CEO?
26 posted on 10/27/2011 2:28:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: RightOnline
I worked at IBM for some years and watched them gut the U.S. work force while creating tens of thousands of jobs in India. Wall St. forces a focus on ‘the quarter’, which results in myopic corporations and CEO’s to lose anything resembling long-term vision. The impact on the country figures not a jot in their calculus....trust me. Zero. Nada.

Corporate executives with zero loyalty to American workers. With these turds in charge we would have lost WW2. Of course they could care less about trade deficits.

27 posted on 10/27/2011 2:28:49 PM PDT by dennisw (What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having - - Sting)
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To: SeekAndFind
Didn’t Herman Cain start in the food/restaurant business by actually flipping burgers and making pizza?

Yes and no. He did all those jobs, but as CEO so he would have a first hand understanding of the business he was taking over. He didn't start out doing that and work his way up.

28 posted on 10/27/2011 2:29:07 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: seeker41

Technology is only making the demand for human labor less and less.....think about how many people it used to take to farm, compared to what it takes today.


29 posted on 10/27/2011 2:29:07 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dennisw
This is what you get with conceited moronic theories of free trade. This is what you get with outsourcing.

This is also what you get when you decide that saving a quarter on a foreign made notepad and pen is more important than keeping jobs/taxpayers in the US.

The free trade agreements only made it easier to outsource manufacturing. We made it profitable by buying the cheaper stuff.

30 posted on 10/27/2011 2:29:23 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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To: cripplecreek

Your comment shows your inabiltiy to engage in this topic with any logic.


31 posted on 10/27/2011 2:30:02 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: ronnie raygun; RightOnline
It doesn't matter who you vote for. They are all thieving pay-for-play bastards who turn us against each other. Then they go buy votes, give our tax dollars to whoever pays them most and look the other way when businesses use slave-state labor to crush US labor.

This decline is more frightening and dangerous than what I saw in the USSR. It's simply sad to see so much wasted potential...

32 posted on 10/27/2011 2:31:52 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Taxes, regulation, and unionization make outsourcing the attractive choice.


33 posted on 10/27/2011 2:32:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: dfwgator

It’s so funny, I worked at UF until 8/31/11 and have been in high tech for years. Noticed your gator moniker:)


34 posted on 10/27/2011 2:33:48 PM PDT by seeker41 (CULPRIT CHINESE COMPANY INFO.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

This is why you put up tariffs....and nuke the EPA


35 posted on 10/27/2011 2:33:54 PM PDT by dennisw (What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having - - Sting)
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To: TruthConquers

1. Inflation
2. Over Regulation
3. BS Trade Deals
4. Insane taxes , fees, fines, surcharges, etc
5. Too many illegals and their apologosts
6. Too many govt workers on all levels

The only way back for this country is to slash taxes and govt spending, bring back more production and manufacturing of the items we consume, drill drill drill, etc etc.


36 posted on 10/27/2011 2:34:04 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Hugin

Years ago, Bob Graham, when he was running for the Governor of Florida, had a pretty good little idea during his campaign, he worked one day at a job in all 67 Florida counties, and he wound up getting elected.....didn’t particularly care for the guy’s politics, but I liked him as a Governor, although I was disappointed with his Senate career.


37 posted on 10/27/2011 2:35:27 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Hugin

Even still, back then, the culture of America was drastically different. Back then if you had the work ethic and right skills, you could move up; these days single mothers with six kids from a variety of lovers gets preferential treatment over single, smart, self disciplined people.


38 posted on 10/27/2011 2:36:57 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: ottbmare
If you're not young enough, if you're not the right color or ethnicity, you are not going to get promoted even if you save the company's bacon.

I'm pushing '60 and was unemployed in '09 and '11 both.

I have never collected a dime of unemployment in my life, I have always found work whether I had to move or not.

So when am I supposedly too old to get hired?

39 posted on 10/27/2011 2:39:56 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: GlockThe Vote
"It sucks. My GF can’t understand what this is like and it adds a lot of stress to the situation."

Dump her. She should be lending a supportive role in your situation, not making it worse.

Peoples real selves come out when there is trouble and or problems.

Looks like you're seeing her true colors....and they don't seem real pretty.

40 posted on 10/27/2011 2:40:25 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Get ready for an aberration of historic proportions" - Herman Cain)
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To: dfwgator

That is why have scar tissue on the inside of my mouth. I bite down to keep it shut.


41 posted on 10/27/2011 2:41:03 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: qam1
Corporations are just bureaucracies:
"In every bureaucratic system, the shifting of responsibilities is a matter of daily routine. And, if one wishes to define bureaucracy in terms of political science, that is as a form of government - the rule of office as contrasted to the rule of men of one man or of the few, or of the many - bureaucracy unhappily is the rule of nobody. And, for this reason is . . . perhaps the least human and most cruel form of rulership".
- Hannh Arendt

What is American Corporatism?
. . . what kind of economy we really have. I have mentioned before that we increasingly live not in a capitalist society but in a corporatist one, and I would like to flesh out this notion.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1036236/posts

42 posted on 10/27/2011 2:42:03 PM PDT by donna (Americans now owe more on student loans than on credit cards.)
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To: seeker41

Where did you work at UF?


43 posted on 10/27/2011 2:42:43 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Niuhuru
Even still, back then, the culture of America was drastically different. Back then if you had the work ethic and right skills, you could move up; these days single mothers with six kids from a variety of lovers gets preferential treatment over single, smart, self disciplined people.

You're expecting people to acknowledge their own part in their fate but few people have the courage to do that.
44 posted on 10/27/2011 2:43:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: cripplecreek
Taxes, regulation, and unionization make outsourcing the attractive choice.

A CEO's job is to do what is best for their company and sadly enough what is best for most companies is to go off shore for the very reasons that you show.

45 posted on 10/27/2011 2:43:38 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Niuhuru

1. Both parties have imported tens of millions of low wage people who have driven down wages and taken jobs from teens and those otherwise who couldny do anything else. They have taken the dignity out of manual labor.

2. Both parties have sold this country to the interests of mega-banks and multinational corps.

3. Both parties have been complicit in the Federal Reserve collapsing the value o the dollar.

4. Local Govts are killing taxpayers with insane property taxes and costs to pay for bloated salaries and pensions that are outrageous.

5. Starting up a business and keeping it going is near impossible and a owner faces a myriad of threats from labor lawsuits, torts, etc.

6. Govt has caused energy, food, health care, and education inflation.

Is it any wonder people are pissed off? We have been sold off and left with nothing but debt, chaos, illegals, a dispirited population, and no way out of this short of a near revolution.


46 posted on 10/27/2011 2:43:38 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

P.S. I work for a small business. We are all “underemployed”. It was either each of us take a couple hours hit, or lay someone off.

Gratefully, we each took a hit and were all able to keep our jobs. I had to cut back on my non-neccesities, but so what.

Our accounts receivables suck as well. I just took a look today at this months AR, compared to last month. Of course our accounts payable is up.

We’re about $30,000 behind last month.

NOT good.


47 posted on 10/27/2011 2:46:11 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Get ready for an aberration of historic proportions" - Herman Cain)
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To: GlockThe Vote
1. Both parties

2. Both parties

3. Both parties

4. Local Govts

Lest we forget that we are STILL governed by "We The People" until "We" give up the reins of power.

Until we do we only have ourselves to blame collectively.

48 posted on 10/27/2011 2:49:35 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: SeekAndFind

0bama and his puppet masters know all too well that in order to create their Socialist Workers Paradise, they have to destroy the middle class.


49 posted on 10/27/2011 2:51:19 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: NoGrayZone

Everything is going up - E O insurance, fuel, taxes, costs, etc.

Clients are demanding lower prices and getting people to pay has been near impossible.


50 posted on 10/27/2011 2:51:19 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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