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Police State TSA is Trucking Right Along
Dakota Voice ^ | November 1, 2011 | Gina Miller

Posted on 11/01/2011 6:52:47 AM PDT by WXRGina

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To: RoadGumby

Please show the thread # where I said that.

You seem to WANT to read things into what I’ve said, don’t you? Why is that?

I have no idea what the solution is, I leave that up to the people that have the intel and assets to do something about it. If I don’t like it, I try to change it through my voteing, otherwise, I live with what there is.


41 posted on 11/01/2011 12:08:32 PM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr

YOu argue AGAINST freedom and FOR security. And your posts lend credence to the idea that you would welcome security, even at the expense of all your freedom.

It is my opinion that security comes with a well defended country of free people. Let Fed Gov defend the borders, keep the bad guys out. Let the states and locals deal with the ‘internal’ issues.

In my opinion, we do not punish crimes, especially the capital type, nearly harshly or publicly enough.

You put up straw man arguements such as “So you believe all Muslims are terrorists?” Apparently to try to trap someone into a ‘racist’ moment. Yet, as has been pointed out, the vast majority, coming very close to ALL, terrorists have been Muslim. Fine, then Muslims need to be looked at. Might not be PC, yet it IS the intelligent thing to do.

You have no idea what the solution is, yet your posts seem to lean towards the belief that freedoms are a bad thing that need to be given up so you can be safe. Not a sound position to have, IMHO.


42 posted on 11/01/2011 12:16:57 PM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: stuartcr

Quick question do you work for the Federal Government?


43 posted on 11/01/2011 12:19:13 PM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: stuartcr

Quick question, do you work for the Federal Government?


44 posted on 11/01/2011 12:19:28 PM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: stuartcr
What would Thomas Jefferson, George Washington or Ben Franklyn do? Obviously they would want house to house searches for "terrorists"
45 posted on 11/01/2011 12:21:14 PM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: RoadGumby

Not a sound position to NOT take things as people write them, but instead apply your thinking to what others say. IMHO


46 posted on 11/01/2011 12:24:14 PM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: FightThePower!

Nope, I’m a contractor.


47 posted on 11/01/2011 12:24:54 PM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: FightThePower!

How would I know what they would do, besides, you answered your own question.


48 posted on 11/01/2011 12:26:12 PM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr

You place your words here for consideration and interpretation. It is what it is.


49 posted on 11/01/2011 12:37:38 PM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: RoadGumby

Yes it is, but one should ask about their meaning, instead of making assumptive statements.


50 posted on 11/01/2011 1:02:56 PM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr

I would opine that the responsibility is on the poster to be clear and intelligible.

And what was clear is that you were staking a position of ‘sniper’ at anyone having the position of ‘freedom is better than security’.


51 posted on 11/01/2011 1:25:47 PM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: stuartcr
What about the guys that are transporting those explosives to the mall? How would anyone know, if not for an informer and vehicle checks?

How many explosions have happened at malls?

Right.

You can dream up all the phony justifications you wish, but it all boils down to this: Life is inherently risky.

You can never eliminate all the potential threats to 'security' so it is an illusory trap.

You can lick your master's boots and take your lashes OR you can choose to be free and strong.

Being free means living with a slight risk to 'safety.'

Real men choose to live with risk. Servile creatures crave safety.

52 posted on 11/01/2011 1:28:02 PM PDT by JOAT
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To: RoadGumby

Guess we opine differently.


53 posted on 11/01/2011 1:55:46 PM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr

SO I guess it is OK to say what you think you might be saying, vaguely, or couched behind weasel words so you can then have deniability when someone calls you on it.


54 posted on 11/01/2011 2:00:28 PM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: JOAT

I don’t know how many have been prevented.
I agree


55 posted on 11/01/2011 2:02:41 PM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr
In the 21st century, how does a govt increase security without giving up some freedoms and liberties?

If you compromise your rights to buy security it won't be long before you'll have neither.

Regards,
GtG

56 posted on 11/01/2011 2:18:48 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: stuartcr
Once again, your strawman is weak.

VIPR checkpoints on highways are infringing and do absolutely nothing to create 'safety.'

They do, however, serve to train the weak that they should submit to their 'masters' every whim.

Unquantifiable claims of mall heroism notwithstanding, this TSA 'out on the roads' BS is a clear infringement.

Your attempt to obfuscate the issue by throwing out malls and ports is laughable.

Wear your chains proudly. Don't let anyone speak poorly of you for your choice.

57 posted on 11/01/2011 3:35:08 PM PDT by JOAT
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To: JOAT
Your comments reminded me of this dear quote:

If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!

– Samuel Adams

58 posted on 11/01/2011 4:08:05 PM PDT by WXRGina
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To: RoadGumby; others

Of course it is. Just look at the opportunities I’ve given so many freepers to practice their mildly denigrating adjectives, their rants, their dislikes, etc., in just one thread. In just one thread, I’ve heard from freepers thatI haven’t talked with in a long time, or ever. How many times do freepers get to do that? It’s a good exercise for the upcoming election year. Besides, it’s a pleasant way to reinforce what I’ve thought for a long time.

Cheers all, be back tomorrow


59 posted on 11/01/2011 5:21:20 PM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Joe 6-pack

Gee, I hadn’t noticed.

Try post #11


60 posted on 11/01/2011 7:06:03 PM PDT by phockthis
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