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When things go south or What to expect when SHTF
The Survival Mom ^ | 11/1/11 | D.T.

Posted on 11/04/2011 1:06:24 PM PDT by Kartographer

Lisa’s note: It never hurts to think in terms of worst-case scenarios.

First off, let me explain my reasons for writing this and tell you a bit about my experiences. That way you will know what I say is truth. I served for 15 years in the British Army serving during the 1990’s in Yugoslavia, Bosnia and Kosovo and saw firsthand what happens to human nature and society when everything goes to hell. As for my reasons, I’m somewhat tired of people painting a rosy picture of what they expect might happen in the event of a major terrorist attack, civil emergenies or severe natural disasters. Don’t get me wrong. They have planned impeccably for food, shelter, and similar but seem to think everyone will still remain fairly well behaved and keep observing rules of “polite society”. So in a way, this is a thesis of human nature. Will it offend? I hope not. Will it shock? I hope so, if what I write makes one person revise a plan and as a result, saves a life or the lives of a family. Then it will have been well worth the time taken to type this.

(Excerpt) Read more at thesurvivalmom.com ...


TOPICS: History; Society
KEYWORDS: getreadyhereitcomes; preparedness; preparenow; prepperping; preppers; survivalping
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8) (1998)
Quark:
"Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes."
1 posted on 11/04/2011 1:06:28 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...
Preppers Ping!

Unrepentant Blog Pimp Alert!

2 posted on 11/04/2011 1:09:39 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

I like it


3 posted on 11/04/2011 1:12:38 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kartographer

We are on the edge. Everyday there is a new story about the ‘Yutes’ who grow more restless everyday and when you add the fact that because of the economy people are already on edge it won’t take much to set things off.

Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:

“Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)” (1998)
Quark: Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.

Today we have ‘yutes’ who roam our streets who are with out morals, without respect for law or life itself. They will look are you with the same ‘doll eyes’ a shark does before he eats you and they will feel no more compassion than the shark does.

That will be the test of many. Most preppers I know are Christian people and they will hesitate to do what they might have to do to stop the ‘yutes’. On the other hand the ‘yutes’ won’t think twice nor lose a minute of sleep, in fact they will smile and laugh about it.

For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:

http://www.tomeaker.com/kart/preparedness1i.pdf

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

If you like to read more about what SHTF in Bosnia was like take a look at this post on Bosnia War Survivor Selco’s post:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2798007/posts

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3


4 posted on 11/04/2011 1:15:15 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer; ChocChipCookie

I enjoy Lisa’s preparedness blog. I believe she posts on FR, too, as ChocChipCookie. Or at least she used to.


5 posted on 11/04/2011 1:15:54 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: Kartographer
did my daily duty at walmart, 100 rounds each of 380 and 9mm boxes. I have been adding “items” weekly for a year now.
6 posted on 11/04/2011 1:19:37 PM PDT by pwatson
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To: ChocChipCookie

good article


7 posted on 11/04/2011 1:19:38 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

She was on Glenn Beck’s TV show about a year ago too.


8 posted on 11/04/2011 1:21:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: Kartographer

Just wondering... for those of us who have bug-out bags ready: don’t you think the first victims will be those running around with backpacks?


9 posted on 11/04/2011 1:28:53 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Kartographer
Some places will remain a congenial America and some will be a War Zone. I have been through many such times in many Hurricanes... Katrina being the last one. Mississippi was a safe place with armed citizens making certain to keep the animals in check... we had problems... we dealt with them ourselves. New Orleans... not so much.

LLS

10 posted on 11/04/2011 1:29:38 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: Kartographer

Thank you - I will read it.

And in case anyone thinks things will never go south, check this out:

http://www.lookingattheleft.com/2011/10/evil-clowns-and-anti-capitalist-revolution-in-denver/

Read the whole thing and look at all the photos.


11 posted on 11/04/2011 1:42:57 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Reddy

Take a look at the movie “red dawn” one of my all time favorites. The good people will stick together. Here in Texas the gun owners will band up. The gang bangers will also. City Slickers will be complete idiots as much as dangerous. In Houston over 50% of the people had no food or water or lights when the Galveston Hurricane hit them. Of course they are mostly Democrats idiots to begin with. I highly suggest you not have any digital cammo gear, stick with black or student looking backpacks. You do not want to stand out.


12 posted on 11/04/2011 1:51:40 PM PDT by pwatson
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To: Kartographer

As always.......

You and yours are Always right on the button

Something to add in passing...

Why does a power company after shutting off city lighting remove the wire (no value if legally sold as would attract attention) and POLES.

Someone was taught a long time ago and throughout history...

Leaving poles or trees in place in suburbia allows for barricades and vehicle traps to be set up.

Strap three trees or poles together... instant heavy vehicle road block..... they stop... their toast...

Something about German and Russian house to house fighting in a few wars and how those with less fought against those with vehicles, traps for profit 101

EL...... just my hyperinflation 2 million cents worth


13 posted on 11/04/2011 2:02:31 PM PDT by Eureka_Lead (No political party has ever become a dictatorship when the citizens have firearms - Stay Vigilant)
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To: Kartographer

Ping


14 posted on 11/04/2011 2:06:18 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Kartographer; archy; Travis McGee
""But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon""

We called em Explosive Ordnance Disposal Techs....aka EOD !)

I know it because I seen me do it..........;o

Stay safe !

15 posted on 11/04/2011 2:06:43 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Reddy
for those of us who have bug-out bags ready: don’t you think the first victims will be those running around with backpacks?

Not if you are armed and have the where-with-all to use it.

16 posted on 11/04/2011 2:09:32 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Attacking Wall Street because you're jobless is like burning down Whole Foods because you're hungry.)
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To: Kartographer

bfl


17 posted on 11/04/2011 2:18:53 PM PDT by NerdDad ("I don't dislike Obama because he's black -- I don't like his white half either." N. Boortz)
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To: LibLieSlayer

The biggest problem during Katrina was the out of control cops who were confiscating hundreds of weapons, looting businesses and homes, locking up citizens protecting their property, and shooting at unarmed citizens. I fear an army of well-armed cops more than a disorganized gang of wandering thieves.


18 posted on 11/04/2011 2:44:55 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Kartographer

Passed it on to an email list.


19 posted on 11/04/2011 3:42:40 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah
Thanks. Excellent pictures.

I've actually paid little attention to these clowns and that's the most I've seen of them.

ZOMBIES!!

Shoot?

20 posted on 11/04/2011 4:05:55 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

The OWSers are another hopeful plan of 0bastard and his crew to destablize the country to usher in - whatever it is they want ushered it. Wouldn’t work without the useful idiots. I’ve been following it obsessively, as I am wont to do when something interests me.


21 posted on 11/04/2011 4:22:09 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Kirkwood
That happened in New Orleans and I will quote a certain Army Colonel that stopped by my rural home to check on me and my family:

“You people certainly know how to handle a disaster... where I just came from... the people that we were trying to help were shooting at us”. All I had done was offer him and this Lt. (female) that was with him a cold drink (genset here) and some hot grub.

The police here just said, “If you have to take out anyone threatening you or your family... just leave them in a ditch face down... we will get to them eventually". We were also under Martial Law at the time. EVERY real American that I dealt with during the aftermath were armed... and courteous. Neighbors looked after neighbors.

LLS

22 posted on 11/04/2011 4:30:44 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: Kartographer

Thanks for the ping! I got the gist of the article, but the text was tortuous to get through.


23 posted on 11/04/2011 6:26:33 PM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: LibLieSlayer
"“You people certainly know how to handle a disaster... "

LOL. On day three, with the power still out, the Red Cross from Nebraska stopped by offering MRE's ... we offered them some of our freshly cooked spaghetti, garlic bread, green salad and wine.

24 posted on 11/04/2011 8:46:14 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

I’ll bet they were shocked! I ate some mre’s after the freezer was emptied... they are not bad... but they are not home cooking.

LLS


25 posted on 11/05/2011 5:11:01 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: LibLieSlayer
"I ate some mre’s after the freezer was emptied... they are not bad... but they are not home cooking. "

My brother said I should have taken at least one MRE...I said why, he said, "nobody her knows what one looks like."

26 posted on 11/05/2011 5:21:44 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

hee hee hee!

LLS


27 posted on 11/05/2011 8:17:00 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: backwoods-engineer

I enjoy Lisa’s preparedness blog. I believe she posts on FR, too, as ChocChipCookie. Or at least she used to.

Still does:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:chocchipcookie/index?brevity=full;tab=comments


28 posted on 11/06/2011 10:14:17 AM PST by Iron Munro ('We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them.' -- Mitt Romney)
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