Skip to comments.Kevinís Korner: The No-Debating Debate, Branstadís New Career & You Go First Newt
Posted on 11/06/2011 5:37:46 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
...The much-hyped Lincoln/Douglas style debate never came close to resembling the Lincoln/Douglas style Or a debate, for that matter It did expose Herman Cains inability to answer tough questions. Cain was asked about Medicare. He sat there for several seconds with a deer in the headlights look, before finally submitting with You go first, Newt. Translation: I have no idea what youre asking me. Lets hears Newts answer so I can copy it. Cain deferred to Newt again later in the debate when he couldnt answer a question.
Gingrich was respectful in choosing not to dismantle Cain, which he easily could have done The debate, in which there was no debating, was just slightly more interesting than that LSU/Alabama field goal fest which was ridiculously hyped as the latest Game of the Century Newt had a very good week, shining at the forum in Pella and the Reagan Dinner in Des Moines. If Gingrich can assemble a field organization, he could become a contender and reverse that one-way ticket to Palookaville.
Newt is playing nice with the rest of the field, but Herman Cain will get no such love from Michele Bachmann. She shredded his inconsistencies on the issues during a recent radio interview
That leads us to the Bachmann Bungle of the Week: According to a tweet from Stephen Hayes of The Weekly Standard, Bachmann said on Fox News that she just spoke at the University of Iowa in Ames. Wow. Just, wow
I guess that is an easy thing for any Iowan to get wrong
She did correct the record moments later, before heading to Waterloo to visit John Waynes birthplace....
(Excerpt) Read more at theiowarepublican.com ...
Sounds like most of the debate went over the author’s head. “Where are the sound bites?”
Gee, nice screed from just another establishment blogger. So by posting this shall we take it you agree with him?
I see the Perry camp is busy whining because their guy wasn’t on the stage.
How about this. How about Perry accept the invite next time he is invited to his one 1 on 1 debate.
Rather then let the biased spin bots like this author tell you what to think watch the debate for yourself here
It may not have risen to the level of the original LD debates, but it certainly was a lot more informative than what we have been subjected to so far. I addition, while Cain certainly is not on the same level as Newt when it comes to debating, he did exceed expectations. I would like to see more of this style of debates.
Got any more where that came from?
Did you watch? Newt and Cain both did well. Newt better of course because he’s more familiar with some of the topics. That was to be expected. But both men got along well, and showed they are worthy of consideration.
I’m frankly glad “Mumbles” Perry wasn’t there last night. It would have been a real bore. As it was it made a point for possibly exchanging this format for the debate format.
But then again, I’m writing to the wind. You don’t care about objectivity. You don’t care about debate. You only care about making hits against anyone not from your camp.
Oh, tell “Mumbles” hi when you see him.
No wait, they didn't think they could do well and didn't go. Oh well, maybe they can criticize the lack of vitriol or something.
The Iowa Republican is just another party establishment pimping electronic rag that has very little impact on reality. And this article is just one person’s mental flatus taking form on a screen.
Over an hour of discussion - a normal conversation - not "gotcha" or high-octane, political talking points.
no pandering for votes
terrorists using U.S. Mexican border
no Fed Dream Act or amnesty
examine what our national work force needs are
jobs in Texas - full picture
manufacturing in China vs U.S.
wages hurt by the cost of doing business - onerous regulations
Texas right to work state but he's always been endorsed by Teamsters Union (jobs)
multi-national companies (U.S.)
jobs, spending, taxes, regulations
trade laws and tariffs
subsides and tax credits
energy and market place
taxes and lobbyists
family decision re presidential run
Parade interview "birther" "news"
Afghanistan -- special ops war, troops, Obama policy, war on terror, more funding for technology and R&D
Foreign policy dependent on our economic strength
campaign commitment in NH
review candidates' track record
roughness of campaign -- in to win -- facts can be hard-hitting
Social Security, jobs, national security, being truthful
discusses education, EPA, Energy, HHS
state transportation infrastructure
ObamaCare, medicare, medicaid, healthcare
Tom Cobrun, Bobby Jindal, Paul Ryan
health care insurance - state by state
health care in Texas, access, tort reform
judges, Supreme Court, federal courts
Other than that it was a great exchange of ideas in a respectful setting. No gameshow format, no food fight, no drama.
No one can outdo Newt on policy facts, statistics, history etc--but Mr. Cain IMO is the one who can inspire the nation, with plenty of gravitas of his own.
I remember Ronald Reagan's first debate with Mondale in '84. He looked overwhelmed--but he ended up winning 49 states...
The problem with Newt is that we know for a fact that he’ll screw conservatives at the drop of a hat.
Did he discuss his pollster’s involvement with the Cain hit?
Yep. If one wants intelligence, knowledge and erudition, Newt's the man. If one wants consistency, look elsewhere.
This election is coming down to trust for me.
I trust the amateur who wants to do the right thing vs the pro who has his own agenda and hides it well.
LOL — The Wash Po?
I watched the entire debate twice. I know what was said. Do you?
I think that’s the way a lot of the electorate feels. They’re sick of the politicians screwing up the country. They want someone from outside the beltway mentality, with no ties to the GOP elite, to get us back on track. If you look at all the other candidates the ties to Washington are there. Even Perry with his early ties to Karl Rove, and his long political career. The fact the electorate stayed with Cain this past week, and even increased their donations during this time, speaks volumes for what they want.
A conservative writing for the Wa-Po, yes. Better than the posts quoting the idiot radio show host out of Iowa your cohorts have been flagellating us with these past few days. Far better.
I wish we could fuse the best parts of Newt and Cain into one candidate.
My first choice was Michele Bachmann due to her short political career and her consistency. I think she’ll be out after Iowa but hopefully she’ll play a part in setting policy in a Cain administration.
She has some top notch ideas but she speaks too much like a politician.
Yep, and we disagree.
I like my whoppers without onions and cheese and I totally accept that you may not like them at all.
But then again, some people have their opinion on what a debate should be, the establishment created the Commission on Presidential Debates and others are simply looking for an honest exchange of ideas.
Clearly not having hit the books, I still suspect Cain is a stalker for Romney.
Newt's brilliant and well versed. However, he's made hints that call for closer scrutiny. I can overlook the old baggage but I want to feel confident he can be kept on the reservation. I'm not there yet.
There's no trusting Romney.
Since CA doesn't vote until June participation for me, and millions of others in late states, will come down to a decision to donate. No one's made a sale. I'm not sure any of the candidates will.
I liked her at first as well. But she can come across pretty rough. My wife can’t stand her. As with you I still think she has some good ideas but isn’t ready for the grand stage.
When Herman Cain came along, I saw his being the outsider he is as a plus, in addition to his business background. That’s what drew me to him. He’s not Reagan, but he’s personable, well spoken, and is running a stealth campaign. I’m impressed.
I missed the debate and forgot to DVR it. I am assuming this; that in a debate with Newt Gingrich on substance and information, one survives only because Newt lets them survive. IMHO. This goes for just about anyone I can think of. I read where Cain and Newt are friendly, being from Georgia together, apart from campaign friendly.
However, with no record whatsoever Cain has it so much easier than those who have done something. Cain wants to try at going the distance on the force of a cheery personality. Some of us just can’t fall for that empty background, since it gave us the cheery personality, Obama.
Major fail for the candidates who refused the invitation. Their loss and our gain. Cain and Newt did America great last night. We may have seen the GOP ticket in that ending arms on each other’s shoulder and waves at the audience. They would make a great team.
This guy must have been watching another channel. Newt and Herman were both informed and detailed in their ideas on entitlement reform. It was one of the best discussions yet. Looks like maybe they are going to team up. Cain/Gingrich or Gingrich/Cain fine by me.