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Itís happening: Democratic lawmakers say Fast and Furious proof of need for harsher gun laws
Hot Air ^ | November 5, 2011 | Tina Korbe

Posted on 11/06/2011 2:23:38 PM PST by Windflier

Right on cue, Democratic lawmakers have begun to say the DOJ’s lethal and irresponsible Fast and Furious program underscores the need for stricter gun control laws:

“This hunt for blame doesn’t really speak about the problem,” said Sen. Dianne Feinstein at a recent Senate Judiciary hearing while discussing Fast and Furious.

“And the problem is, anybody can walk in and buy anything, .50-caliber weapons, sniper weapons, buy them in large amounts, and send them down to Mexico. So, the question really becomes, what do we do about this?”

The ranking Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, Rep. Elijah Cummings (Md.), and Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.) have introduced a dedicated firearms trafficking statute, but it has stalled in the House Judiciary Committee.

Republicans rightly have pushed back against this narrative. Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) put it best when he said simply, “I get it, I’d want to change the subject too if I were them. I’m happy to have a conversation about broader gun laws, but we’re going to do it after Fast and Furious.”

What’s most troubling about Democrats’ predictable call for tightening of regulations is that it does nothing to dispel the theory that Fast and Furious was orchestrated precisely to “prove” the need to clamp down on gun sellers and purchasers. Rather, it lends credence to the idea.

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Pardon if this should have been in News/Activism, but Hot Air is a blog.

Pretty predictable of the Dems, eh?

1 posted on 11/06/2011 2:23:41 PM PST by Windflier
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To: Windflier

Senator Dianne Feinstein does not like liberty.


2 posted on 11/06/2011 2:27:22 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Windflier

This is what it was really all about, anyway.


3 posted on 11/06/2011 2:28:22 PM PST by Free in Texas (Member of the Bitter Clingers Association.)
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To: Windflier

That pesky Second Amendment again. Feinstein needs to go back to counting her money and leave Americans alone. We’ve had enough crap out of her.


4 posted on 11/06/2011 2:28:36 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: Windflier

So the Dems’ impropriety with guns means that the Dems should be allowed to pass stricter gun laws. Perfect logic!


5 posted on 11/06/2011 2:29:03 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: BenLurkin
Senator Dianne Feinstein does not like liberty.

None of the Dems do. They're all trapped in their suicidal group think and can't get out. We need to do everything we can to fire every one of them in Congress next year.

6 posted on 11/06/2011 2:29:28 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

No more. I will not comply.


7 posted on 11/06/2011 2:29:28 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Windflier
And the problem is, anybody can walk in and buy anything, .50-caliber weapons, sniper weapons, buy them in large amounts, and send them down to Mexico. So, the question really becomes, what do we do about this?”

What to do?

Break out the gallows and gather up Holder and gang!

Outside of HIM sending arms to Mexico, the rest is clearly covered in the Constitution under the 2nd amendment as lawful and legitimate freedoms under God.

8 posted on 11/06/2011 2:30:25 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Windflier

I’m so disgusted with the fact that Elijah Cummings is my “representative” in Congress.


9 posted on 11/06/2011 2:31:23 PM PST by RockinRight (One year from now, we have an opportunity to take our nation back.)
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To: Free in Texas
This is what it was really all about, anyway.

Absolutely. The weird thing is, even though they got busted trying to manufacture the case for greater gun restrictions, they're still going forward with their agenda like nothing ever happened.

They're totally shameless.

10 posted on 11/06/2011 2:32:33 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Olog-hai

If they want to disarm all the Dems, I’m okay with that.

;D


11 posted on 11/06/2011 2:34:12 PM PST by Salamander (And I laugh to myself at the men and the ladies, who never conceived of us billion dollar babies.)
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To: Windflier

Feinstein is right. We need harsher gun laws. We need to ban the federal government (other than the Constitutionally mandated military) from possessing firearms because they have proven time and time again to be irresponsible with their use. Law enforcement is a state and local issue and all LE activities should be restricted to people that are locally accountable. A disarmed federal government would be a government with a servant mentality, which is how it was designed to be!


12 posted on 11/06/2011 2:34:23 PM PST by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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To: Olog-hai

It’s not just the Dems, it’s the elites that don’t like Americans having guns. Think Mittens would better handle the ATF?


13 posted on 11/06/2011 2:36:02 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Windflier

We need stricter control of government, not firearms.


14 posted on 11/06/2011 2:37:56 PM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Dead Corpse
No more. I will not comply.

Dittos...



15 posted on 11/06/2011 2:38:04 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Bryanw92
Feinstein is right. We need harsher gun laws. We need to ban the federal government (other than the Constitutionally mandated military) from possessing firearms because they have proven time and time again to be irresponsible with their use.


16 posted on 11/06/2011 2:40:13 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Fresh Wind
We need stricter control of government, not firearms.

Bingo. Lord willing and the creek don't rise, that's what we'll get after the next election.

17 posted on 11/06/2011 2:41:37 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
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18 posted on 11/06/2011 2:43:06 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Windflier

The rats ‘under the radar’ plan was discovered so now they’ll just do it right out in the open and dare anyone to try and stop them.


19 posted on 11/06/2011 2:44:03 PM PST by JPG (The loons at OWS will soon be at each others throats.)
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To: John Semmens

Hey look...it’s the real-life version of your satire. Hard to tell the difference.


20 posted on 11/06/2011 2:48:55 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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To: Windflier
“And the problem is, anybody can walk in and buy anything, .50-caliber weapons, sniper weapons, buy them in large amounts, and send them down to Mexico.

Anybody with a badge, that is.

21 posted on 11/06/2011 2:50:24 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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To: JPG
The rats ‘under the radar’ plan was discovered so now they’ll just do it right out in the open and dare anyone to try and stop them.

Pretty much.

These ruling class oligarchs live in a protected bubble, and don't see (or don't acknowledge) that the country is on a rebellion footing. They've completely ignored the lessons of the 2010 midterm elections, and believe that they can still move the Socialist ball down field, despite the clear will of the people.

We must fire them all.

22 posted on 11/06/2011 2:50:39 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Very appropriate, DJ. Thanks for all you do.


23 posted on 11/06/2011 2:51:46 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Oh, I agree wholeheartedly. . . it absolutely should be against the law for the Federal government to traffic in guns while conspiring to take away the constitutional rights of its citizens to bear arms.


24 posted on 11/06/2011 2:55:01 PM PST by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: Windflier

You’re welcome. Thanks for noticing. :-)


25 posted on 11/06/2011 2:59:51 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: RatRipper
Being as we R at war with TERROR/DRUGS, arming DRUG TERRORISTS is an act of TREASON.

Pass the picante sauce Ricky!

26 posted on 11/06/2011 3:10:51 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: Windflier
They are frantic and desperate.

As I postulated in during the presidential campaign 2007, the EU has spent itself into the ground and cannot be prevented from breaking up. This was clear to them by the end of 2006.

Everything they have done since then in North America and the Mideast, however risky or likely to fail has been done with an eye towards achieving what they can before the spectacular failure of socialism in Europe causes a backlash against socialism in general world wide.

That was my assessment then and I stand by it now. They frantically Hope to stay in power after the financial collapse of Europe by making their power sphere worldwide before then.

I am betting against their being able to pull it off.

27 posted on 11/06/2011 3:10:51 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: RatRipper
it absolutely should be against the law for the Federal government to traffic in guns while conspiring to take away the constitutional rights of its citizens to bear arms.

I'm pretty sure it's already against the law for the government to do what they did. It's why Darrel Issa is all over this, and Holder's somewhere sweating bullets (no pun intended).

28 posted on 11/06/2011 3:17:12 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: MrEdd
They are frantic and desperate. As I postulated in during the presidential campaign 2007, the EU has spent itself into the ground and cannot be prevented from breaking up. This was clear to them by the end of 2006.

Everything they have done since then in North America and the Mideast, however risky or likely to fail has been done with an eye towards achieving what they can before the spectacular failure of socialism in Europe causes a backlash against socialism in general world wide.

I like your assessment, Edd. I also think it's prescient. We've all been watching the teetering edifice of global Socialism become weaker and weaker since Obama's election, and with the rise of the American Tea Party, I think we'll see it finally kicked over into the dust of history.

As you said, they're frantically trying to beat the clock to the final countdown, when they're finally thrown out of power next year. It's why Pelosi, Reid, and Obama (and their minions) have been in a mad dash to re-write the rules of Western civilization as fast as they can. They're desperate to forestall the inevitable and historic sea change that's coming.

I think history will show that taking the House back from the Democrats in 2010 was the moment when the American republic was saved from certain extinction.

29 posted on 11/06/2011 3:26:13 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
They are racing to get their agenda fully implemented if possible before the country's political pendulum swings back too far to the right. The Constitution and Bill Of Rights are quaint abstract concepts to them.
30 posted on 11/06/2011 3:37:05 PM PST by Free in Texas (Member of the Bitter Clingers Association.)
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To: Free in Texas
They are racing to get their agenda fully implemented if possible before the country's political pendulum swings back too far to the right.

Can you imagine the damage they would have done by now, if the Republicans hadn't taken the House back last year? I shudder to think what sort of totalitarian laws would have been foisted upon the American people, if we hadn't "headed them off at the pass."

As it is, there's years worth of hard work ahead, just undoing all the things they've done. And we'd better pull this crap out by the roots this time, or it'll grow back so strong, we'll never get rid of it.

31 posted on 11/06/2011 3:47:10 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier; All

Thread BUMP! Great posts! Inside the twisted, treasonous mind of some current lawmakers at this time and place in our republic’s history. Where are the rest of the “crickets chirping” representatives?


32 posted on 11/06/2011 4:04:10 PM PST by PGalt
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To: PGalt
Where are the rest of the “crickets chirping” representatives?

So far, there are 34 Congress critters calling for Holder's resignation. There will probably be more in the coming week. This scandal is not going away, and has the power to bring down Obama and the whole Democrat party.

Expect Holder to take his place under Obama's bus very soon.

33 posted on 11/06/2011 4:07:21 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Okay Democrats. Since most outrageous shootings in this country involve the Bros or Hispanics, disarm them first and then come talk to me.
34 posted on 11/06/2011 4:16:56 PM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: antidemoncrat
Since most outrageous shootings in this country involve the Bros or Hispanics, disarm them first and then come talk to me.

E Pluribus Unum, homie. This ain't about race. It's about our God-given right to keep and bear arms. ALL of us.

35 posted on 11/06/2011 4:22:17 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Everyone, contact your elected officials and DEMAND repeals of gun control laws as punitive punishment for the criminal acts committed by our Government in Fast and Furious.

Specifically, demand that the Sporting Purpose clause of the 1968 GCA be repealed, demand that the NFA be repealed, demand that the Hughes Amendment be repealed, and demand that the multiple handgun reporting requirement be repealed.

The Government must surrender some power regarding firearms over F&F. There must be no compromise on this!!!


36 posted on 11/06/2011 4:24:06 PM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Windflier

“And the problem is, anybody can walk in and buy anything, .50-caliber weapons, sniper weapons, buy them in large amounts, and send them down to Mexico. So, the question really becomes, what do we do about this?”

The lies from the left are never ending. And, as long as the right allows them to control the language of the debate, it will continue.

The only gun control needed in the US is:

1. proper sight alignment
2. control the breathing
3. squeeze the trigger smoothly


37 posted on 11/06/2011 4:26:41 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: Windflier
This scandal is not going away, and has the power to bring down Obama and the whole Democrat party.

The Democrat Crime Syndicate should have been brought down years ago...but I'll take this one, this time. These totalitarians are getting desparate.

38 posted on 11/06/2011 4:27:25 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Windflier
Sorry but that turd will not stick to the wall. Looks like the RATs are
scurrying into another dark hole. "Is that racist"?
39 posted on 11/06/2011 4:42:44 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: Windflier

Let me guess: These people claim we are morally bound to submit to their tax system?


40 posted on 11/06/2011 4:45:49 PM PST by Mmmike
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To: Windflier

They seem confident that they can get away with it and the way things are going they are probably right.


41 posted on 11/06/2011 4:51:39 PM PST by Josephat
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To: antidemoncrat

Since over 150 million, perhaps 200 million if you count Soviet gulag deaths, The BEST thing you could do to protect people is eliminate communists, socialists and progressives. I suggest a giant toilet that could hold at least 100 of them and then let freedom lovers pay say $10 per flush to pay. I think a lot of past debt could be paid for and future deficit could be eliminated.


42 posted on 11/06/2011 4:57:44 PM PST by MtnClimber (Occupy Obammyville. Coming soon to a blighted urban area near you.)
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To: Josephat

I think you are wrong. I think it will be their death warrant when gun owners realize that they only have to eliminate 1-2 of the communists to make them all gone vs. being rounded up and killed in reeducation camps.


43 posted on 11/06/2011 5:10:55 PM PST by MtnClimber (Occupy Obammyville. Coming soon to a blighted urban area near you.)
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To: Windflier

The chutzpa is breathtaking


44 posted on 11/06/2011 5:12:46 PM PST by NonValueAdded (At 4 AM, it is a test; at 2 PM, it is a demonstration)
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To: Windflier

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to REQUEST and purchase annual permits to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed in every situation.


45 posted on 11/06/2011 5:27:53 PM PST by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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To: MaxMax
Sorry but that turd will not stick to the wall. Looks like the RATs are scurrying into another dark hole.

You bet they're scurrying.

This is just another complicit Dem, spinning the usual leftoid mumbo-jumbo, in order to cover their collective asses. Even the presstitutes who took Feinstein's statement should have openly laughed at her pretzel logic. It's that bad.

46 posted on 11/06/2011 5:51:19 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Mmmike
Let me guess: These people claim we are morally bound to submit to their tax system?

But of course. All rights of the people flow from government, don'tcha know. The law is what Washington says it is.

47 posted on 11/06/2011 5:54:07 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Josephat
They seem confident that they can get away with it and the way things are going they are probably right.

Not gonna happen this time. This cat is way out of the bag, and there's no way to get him back in. All of the major media are now reporting on the scandal, and Issa's coming on like a pit bull.

Someone's gonna go down for this.

48 posted on 11/06/2011 5:57:37 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: TauntedTiger

I see you got your copy of Obama’s new and improved US Constitution. Sweet!


49 posted on 11/06/2011 5:59:09 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: EGPWS
What to do?

Break out the gallows and gather up Holder and gang!

Actually, for intentionally and flagrant violation of their respective oaths of office to uphold The Constitution and that they obviously NEVER intended to abide by any part of that oath and the horrific nature and breadth of the premeditated crimes to permanently deprive all American Citizens of several aspects of their unalienable rights, I would suggest something with a bit more "impact."

Let's set up a rather large, well lit area with HD TV cameras and ready to broadcast live-for-pay, all proceeds going to pay down the National Debt and as the perpetrators are found guilty by public trial we treat all that have suffered through their tyranny with some real justice.

After 20-30 weekly "episodes" the number of smirking communist agenda "liberals" would not only be going down, their collective IQ should be going up slightly.

.

50 posted on 11/06/2011 7:38:44 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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