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What if China, India and Europe would construct a new "Silk Road"?
11/10/2011 | WesternCulture

Posted on 11/09/2011 6:18:51 PM PST by WesternCulture

It's already there.

European as well as Far East Asian companies are already by now pretty tired of Somalian pirates etc. interferring with our business operations.

In the coming of time, Asia and Europe will make so much business the World can't believe it.

Let's build highways and railroads.

Try and stop us..

The well-off people down in India and China are screaming for European luxury goods - and if Africa never wishes to grow up, that's not Volvo's, Audi's and BMW's problem.

Africa too could start expanding its economy.

Some Russians really are clever. Link below to a clip feauturing how intelligent people in the Russian region of Orenburg reason.

Russia and China perhaps could catch up with civilization. I'm indeed a sceptic, but will forever choose faith in Mankind over disbelief in Civilization.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: capitalism; china; eu; europe; india; infrastructure; newsilkroad; orenburg; russia; silkroad; trade

1 posted on 11/09/2011 6:18:57 PM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

The new Silk Road:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9thOkMfWKE


2 posted on 11/09/2011 6:20:29 PM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

Its odd that the Russians have never thought to do it until now. Highway travel across Siberia is horrifyingly bad. Tying Vladivostok to Saint Petersburg should be a no-brainer.

Smart of the Kazakhs to get a jump on this. It puts them on the map (well, that along with their saudi-sized oil fields).


3 posted on 11/09/2011 6:32:57 PM PST by marron
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To: marron
“Its odd that the Russians have never thought to do it until now.”

- They have been invaded so many times throughout history they just can't trust anyone else in our corner of the World.

On the other hand, they have NEVER displayed good will. Perhaps, this is due to being a very, very underdeveloped country (serfdom existed there until mid 19th century) in one way.

But there's more to it.

4 posted on 11/09/2011 6:44:08 PM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

Road transportation is far higher than sea transportation.

Piracy can be easily suppressed by following the lessons learned by the British when they had a piracy problem in the Carribean.

They simply destroyed or took over the cities where the pirates were supplied or based.

Problem solved.


5 posted on 11/09/2011 6:44:26 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: GladesGuru

“Piracy can be easily suppressed by following the lessons learned by the British when they had a piracy problem in the Carribean.”

- Very true.

But, being Swedish as well as being a fan of this project, I’d like to propose another solution;

1. A European company wishes to deliver a piece of hi-tech goods to a customer in Asia.

2. The European company decides not to rely on an alternative being

- slower
- more risky
- less accurate.

End of story really, as I see it.


6 posted on 11/09/2011 6:59:28 PM PST by WesternCulture
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To: marron

Tying Vladivostok to Saint Petersburg should be a no-brainer.
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It should? Why?


7 posted on 11/09/2011 7:41:48 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: WesternCulture

If speed of delivery is significant, wouldn’t air be the mode of choice?


8 posted on 11/09/2011 10:21:01 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: GladesGuru

“If speed of delivery is significant, wouldn’t air be the mode of choice?”

- In one way, yes.

The real winners, however, if all aspects are taken together, are railroads (especially when it comes to large deliveries from large plants to other large plants) and trucks (specifically when smaller businesses are doing trade with other companies their size).

That’s why we simply need more track and asphalt over here. I can’t get into my head why it has took so long.

Probably because of all this insightful Communism guiding Humanity..


9 posted on 11/09/2011 11:28:13 PM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

All the countries on the way are unstable to some degree. Russia, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Belarus have a lot of corruption at the toll gates and customs, etc. Its far easier to put stuff in a ship and reach its destination from a customs and tax perspective. Plus there are far fewer accidents at sea than on land. the capital intensive work to build up infrastructure makes it far less viable than trading by sea. So as an India, I say: “ No, thank you!”


10 posted on 11/10/2011 4:45:15 AM PST by MimirsWell (Pganini, cmdjing, andyahoo, artaxerces, todd_hall, EdisonOne - counting my Chicom scalps)
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To: MimirsWell; WesternCulture
Exactly what I was thinking! You are going to ship mercedes, BMWs and Volvos to India and China over unstable crap holes like Iran, Afghanistan,Turkestan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and Pakistan.....be ready to take exorbitant losses and damages. Bad road conditions are the least of your worries. Even NATO military convoys have a tough time sending supplies through the badlands of Afghanistan-Pakistan. One giant cargo ship can transport as much has several thousands trucks. Those craphole countries don't exactly have express highways for fast transport so who is going to spend on the infrastructure work? And why would these countries allow overland passage when they have no stake in the trade? And not to mention corruption, toll extortion and customs.

Take care of a few rag tag Somalis and the sea is actually a paradise. So says another Indian ;)

11 posted on 11/10/2011 7:03:49 AM PST by ravager
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12 posted on 11/10/2011 8:10:50 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: MimirsWell

“All the countries on the way are unstable to some degree.”

- I’d claim these countries to be far more stable than Somalia and her waters.


13 posted on 11/10/2011 7:36:56 PM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

Shelling and capturing pirate boats and ships is far more rewarding from an international image perspective than being accused by the folks in Transparency International of bribing the customs thugs at the checkpoints.

Besides, most countries on the way don’t get along with each other. Why would India want its trade with Europe to benefit the Pakistanis who will funnel the wealth to target Indian civilians in a terrorist attack. Same for India vis a vis China.


14 posted on 11/11/2011 7:18:24 AM PST by MimirsWell (Pganini, cmdjing, andyahoo, artaxerces, todd_hall, EdisonOne - counting my Chicom scalps)
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To: WesternCulture
Wow!!!! I never saw this before. What a great idea!!!

To link East and West via a paved 6 lane highway is an idea long overdue.

Though, when it comes to moving large volumes of freight, I would also think a rail line would also be needed and that the new highway would supplement the rail line.

15 posted on 11/13/2011 1:39:16 AM PST by ponder life
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To: WesternCulture

There is Transsiberian railroad ending in my town Vladivostok.


16 posted on 11/13/2011 6:03:01 AM PST by Cossak
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To: WesternCulture
it's a good idea. The problem is the roads in Russia are bad -- at least the ones in Asian Russia. I had once researched with my biking buddies a plan to go by motorcycle from Warsaw to Bombay, but the roads in Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan and southern Russia in that area were nonexistent

But a massive highway with rail connections would be a good idea.

17 posted on 11/14/2011 12:57:24 AM PST by Cronos
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To: ravager; MimirsWell
well, the Indian navy ought to be kicking the cr** out of those Somali pirates, after all it is the Indian ocean
18 posted on 11/14/2011 12:59:17 AM PST by Cronos
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