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Everything You Thought You Knew About Jon Huntsman Is Wrong
PJ Media ^ | November 11, 2011 | Nicole Austin

Posted on 11/12/2011 2:40:16 PM PST by Kaslin

A closer look at the former Utah governor might surprise some conservatives.

With Herman Cain’s campaign suffering serious headwinds in recent days, voters of the recalcitrant “not-Romney” bloc may soon begin to shift. And while no Republican presidential contenders are without their foibles, there is at least one candidate who has not received fair consideration from the conservative electorate or media.

Despite scuttlebutt to the contrary, former Utah Governor Jon Huntsman is not a Democrat in disguise, but was in fact a relatively ambitious conservative governor. And if he is “moderate,” he is not appreciably more moderate than other leading candidates or party leaders. If one compares records honestly and looks at policy positions realistically, one will find that in many ways, Huntsman is more conservative than Mitt Romney — who will likely receive the Republican nomination. A surreal juxtaposition to be sure.

As governor of Utah, Huntsman ushered in a boldly transformed tax system. He flattened the tax code, doing away with many, though not all, deductions and credits, and changing six-brackets of progressive income tax rates into one low 5% rate. (Compare with Rick Perry’s proposed 20% flat income tax and Herman Cain’s emblematic 9%.) According to PoliFact.com, this new system reduced taxes approximately 30% for the wealthiest residents, and due to remaining tax deductions “the effective tax rate [was] about 3 percent for Utah taxpayers earning $70,000 a year in 2008 and 4 percent for a household with $100,000 in taxable income[.]” He also eliminated the Child Tax Credit and Earned Income Tax Credit, a credit Reagan supported and which many Republicans today label “socialist.”

Also according to PolitiFact, which simply crunched Bureau of Labor Statistics figures, Utah was fourth in the nation for job creation during the period immediately preceding and including the 2008-2009 recession, right behind Texas, which was third in the nation.

This is just the beginning. One proposal in Washington that has seemingly become too radical for even many leading Republicans to fully sign on to is the “Ryan plan,” which would rein in unsustainable entitlements, most notably Medicare. Newt Gingrich has criticized the Ryan plan, and has vacillated considerably on the proposal — at best, he seems to think it’s too big, too soon, although at one point he said he would vote for it. Romney supports a weaker version of the Ryan plan, which would not phase out Medicare, but keep it as an option, allowing private carriers to compete with it — we might call it the “competitive option,” a Democratic euphemism for the “public option.” Michele Bachmann supports the Ryan plan, but also voiced reservations regarding potential changes to Medicare. Huntsman, on the other hand, wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal commending the Ryan plan, and has said he would vote for it. He has re-iterated, unequivocally, his support on multiple occasions. This puts Huntsman in the same camp as Herman Cain and, to some extent, Rick Perry, who wants states to be able to opt out of entitlements and believes they’re “Ponzi schemes.” Mitt Romney later criticized this very accurate characterization of entitlements, saying Perry’s rhetoric was over the top and frightening.

Of course, one other noteworthy item on Huntsman’s resume is that he pursued free market-based health care reform in Utah. The system primarily involved a competitive private health care exchange, diversified consumer options, and electronic medical records. Gregg Girvan of the Heritage Foundation praised it as a “blueprint” for state health care reform. Furthermore, the state did not impose a health insurance mandate on private citizens, although early on, Huntsman seemed to have favored a mandate, as did former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty. Both Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich have endorsed insurance mandates of some kind and seem to think that they’re necessary features of a workable health care reform model. On a related note, like most other candidates, Huntsman also said he would repeal Obamacare.

Huntsman has also been consistently pro-life, and has spoken very passionately on the issue. He signed numerous pro-life laws while governor, including making second trimester abortions illegal, enacting fetal pain awareness legislation, and instituting a trigger to ban abortion if Roe v. Wade were overturned. He also supports a “right to life” amendment to the Constitution. He has not signed the Susan B. Anthony List pledge (Romney and Cain have not either), but his record speaks for itself, and he has been praised by numerous pro-life groups. Like Chris Christie, he believes in abortion exceptions for incest and rape. But compared to other candidates? With the views Mitt Romney has held in the past, it is almost unbelievable that he is pro-life in truth, but is in fact lying about his views. Meanwhile, Herman Cain’s pro-life stance seems to be indefinable.

Other miscellanea: Huntsman has voiced support for a balanced budget amendment. He also has a strong pro-Second Amendment record, having lifted restrictions on firearms use in Utah during his governorship. He achieved stratospheric approval ratings, while the Pew Center voted Utah the best-managed state in the country in 2008.

All admirable qualities any conservative voter should be looking for. So why is Huntsman perceived as a Democrat’s Republican?

First, Huntsman is widely presumed to support pro-illegal immigration policies. In the past, he supported giving in-state tuition to college-age illegal aliens and has said it’s unrealistic to deport between 12-15 million people here illegally. In other words, in Huntsman’s view, if you would like to see this degree of deportation, we might say you “don’t have a heart.” But let’s be clear about where various candidates stand. Many have tap-danced around the issue of amnesty and mass deportation, insisting, “we need to secure the border first, then we can deal with other problems,” but nonetheless noting the importance of being “compassionate and humane.”

Rick Perry has said and supported much more controversial things, but this is not unrelated to the fact that openness to some degree of amnesty is not a radically un-Republican position. Reagan approved amnesty measures in 1986 and President George W. Bush also supported so-called amnesty policies. Rick Perry not only supported state-subsidized tuition rates for some illegal students, but he also said he was “open to the Bush administration’s amnesty proposal” provided the issue was methodically vetted. In 2006, he said “neither amnesty nor mass deportation is the answer,” and specifically that the latter was “unrealistic and unenforceable.” In short, Perry, like other candidates, may not want to talk about the issue of amnesty now, but he certainly did talk about it before entering the 2012 presidential primary field when it was less taboo.

Another commonly cited gripe about Jon Huntsman is that he is a global warming Kool Aid-drinker. Huntsman has made clear that he trusts what science determines on global warming. He signed the state of Utah up for the Western Climate Initiative along with Arizona, California, Montana, Oregon, Washington, and several Canadian provinces. Mitt Romney, Chris Christie and Newt Gingrich all have comparable views, or did at one time. Chris Christie believes climate change is real and that humans have a role in it. In his 2010 book, Romney wrote, “I believe that climate change is occurring.… I also believe that human activity is a contributing factor. I am uncertain how much of the warming, however, is attributable to man and how much is attributable to factors out of our control.” (Sorry, Mitt, but you cannot erase all incriminating lines from all of your books.)

Rick Perry has said much the same. And whereas Huntsman tweeted his position on global warming, Newt Gingrich wrote an entire book devoted to environmentalism, which, although free market-centered, made clear that “[g]overnment, at all levels, should be a facilitator for entrepreneurial, private-sector innovations and the formation of private-public environmental partnerships, supporting and not suppressing the creativity of entrepreneurial environmentalists” [p.13, “Contract with the Earth”]. These Republicans are, in fact, no more than following the legacy of George W. Bush, who also deferred to scientific consensus on the seriousness of global warming and pursued stricter environmental policies during his tenure (some of which President Obama is trying to undo).

Yet another complaint about Huntsman is that he is “pro-gay.” On this, critics may have a point. Huntsman is not like Rick Santorum on the issue of gay marriage. He supports civil unions, which means he is like Chris Christie. But as with Christie, it is unlikely that Huntsman’s position on the issue bothers many Republican voters, as polls show that a large plurality of Republicans, even very conservative ones, support civil unions.

And finally, a truly perplexing complaint against Huntsman is that he is a “left-wing media darling.” His favorable press in unusual precincts, such as Vogue and the New York Times (which recently speculated he has the best chance of beating Obama), is seen as evidence of his liberalness. Although this may be a “turn-off,” it is a vacuous one. Only Huntsman’s policies can be the true judge of his conservative bone fides; and the fact that liberal journalists and media staples are intrigued, and perhaps even like, Huntsman should be seen as an asset, not an albatross. To nominate a solid conservative whom liberals would actually consider voting for is something Republicans should value in a candidate. Equally stupid is discounting Huntsman because of his ambassadorial role in the Obama administration, as he has worked for every Republican presidential administration since the Reagan era.

That said, the Huntsman campaign is doing a terrible job at making its case. If he is to have a chance, he needs to aggressively counter the misconceptions about what his positions actually are relative to his competitors (not to mention, the beloved Chris Christie). No, he is not a staunch conservative, but we should not fool ourselves into thinking that any of the other candidates are any more so, or that such a hypothetical candidate is even electable. If not, there is a serious worry Republican voters will reject out of hand an admirable, consistent conservative because they falsely believe he’s “too liberal,” while resigning their votes to a man who would sell out every conservative principle he purports to espouse the moment his political fortunes are in jeopardy — which has only been Mitt Romney’s entire political career.

Also read Christian Adams: Huntsman Take Three


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: huntsmandaughters; jonhuntsman
The one plus about Huntsman is that he is Pro life
1 posted on 11/12/2011 2:40:17 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

His global warming nonsense disqualifies him in my opinion. He also worked for Obama.


2 posted on 11/12/2011 2:44:35 PM PST by milwguy
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To: Kaslin

Sorry Huntsman is and was willing to take an appointment from Obama, that is enough for me to write him off and he is at the bottom were he belongs. Huntsman is nothing more than another pretty boy RINO.


3 posted on 11/12/2011 2:45:16 PM PST by Trueblackman (Posting on FR since 1998 and 100% teleprompter free post as well.)
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To: Kaslin

After seeing him and his three daughters on Hannity my opinion of him has changed some. I’m interested to know more about him and what he’s done in the past.


4 posted on 11/12/2011 2:46:01 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you got ta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: Kaslin

He has the exact smae facial expressions and mannerisms as Timothy Geithner....

A look that cant be trusted in my own personal opinion...


5 posted on 11/12/2011 2:47:06 PM PST by neverbluffer
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To: Kaslin

I’ve listened very carefully to Huntsman and watched him in the debates. What I know about him isn’t wrong ... he isn’t spinnin’ my wheels. When he “answers” a question, he is a fairly typical politician.


7 posted on 11/12/2011 2:47:49 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: Kaslin

Never.


8 posted on 11/12/2011 2:47:55 PM PST by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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To: Kaslin

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnn.


9 posted on 11/12/2011 2:48:54 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: Kaslin

PJM went after Cain immediately after the accusations as I remember - now I know who they’re in the tank for.


10 posted on 11/12/2011 2:50:58 PM PST by datura (R.I.P. GOP)
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To: Kaslin

Why are establishment Republicans trying SO hard to convince us to support someone — ANYONE — but the “unelectable” Herman Cain? Curiouser and curiouser.


11 posted on 11/12/2011 2:51:09 PM PST by montag813
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To: Kaslin
The one plus about Huntsman is that he is Pro life

Okay so turds be pro life too.

Just keep him the hell away from the Oval Office!

12 posted on 11/12/2011 2:51:35 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Kaslin

Heard him speak about 2 months ago. Less exciting than watching paint dry.


13 posted on 11/12/2011 2:58:20 PM PST by MindBender26 (Forget AMEX. Remember your Glock 27: Never Leave Home Without It!)
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To: Kaslin

Heard him speak about 2 months ago. Less exciting than watching paint dry.


14 posted on 11/12/2011 2:58:20 PM PST by MindBender26 (Forget AMEX. Remember your Glock 27: Never Leave Home Without It!)
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To: Kaslin
...voters of the recalcitrant “not-Romney” bloc may soon begin to shift...

Ummm, no.

As a member of the bloc, I can tell you that the official title is

The recalcitrant “not-Romney, nor that little RINO twit from Utah, Jon Huntsman” bloc

but we've shortened it to "not-Romney" because its easier to remember and Huntsman is so far off the radar that he's not worth mentioning.

15 posted on 11/12/2011 3:04:54 PM PST by kidd
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To: Kaslin

Huntsman is in there to run interference for brother Mormon Romney.He may be there also to split the votes among the other two leaders. Cain’s campaign has not suffered from the Lying Left. In fact it has benefitted big time.

Even the Levin poll showed Cain was at 55%, Gingrich at 42% and Ropmney at 4% about 10 or 12 minutes ago with 11041 total votes. Huntsman was single digit.


16 posted on 11/12/2011 3:05:31 PM PST by Paperdoll (I like Herman Cain)
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To: Tenebrous
And with this, PJM has jumped the shark. Now they shill for Huntsman.

One writer is pro Huntsman, not all of them

*facepalm* I wonder how much Soros is giving them.

Yeah right Soros is giving money to a conservative site *rme

17 posted on 11/12/2011 3:08:09 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: EGPWS

Do I have to spell it out that the one plus does not do it for me, especially since everything is negative about him


18 posted on 11/12/2011 3:12:20 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

He’s an Obama butt-boy. Being pro-life doesn’t make him a conservative. The fact that the MSM loves him ought to tell you everything you need to know.


19 posted on 11/12/2011 3:13:08 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Kaslin

The second she lied by juxtaposing state tax levels for Huntsman with federal tax proposals by Perry and Cain, she lost me.

As Cain said, that’s apples and oranges, and I’m sure the writer knew that.


20 posted on 11/12/2011 3:17:14 PM PST by ziravan (You don't have to be a rocket scientist to be President. . . but it helps!)
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To: Kaslin

My only surprise is that this tripe wasn’t written by Ed Morissey.

In fairness to Huntsman, he might have created a better first impression if his candidacy had not been trumpeted so favorably by the MSM. He makes some of the right noises, but he has not generated trust in his bona fides, and being “the other moderate” doesn’t do him much good.


21 posted on 11/12/2011 3:22:12 PM PST by bigbob
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To: milwguy
His global warming nonsense disqualifies him in my opinion. He also worked for Obama.

Yep, that and the milquetoast speech he gave when he announced he was entering the primary.
No thanks.

22 posted on 11/12/2011 3:27:40 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Kaslin

I think I prefer Huntsman to Romney. At least he admits he is a mod. On a few issues he is sort of conservative. with Romney, who knows?


23 posted on 11/12/2011 3:36:26 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: Kaslin; All

I can’t quite put my finger on it, but there is something off about Huntsman’s persona - at least to me and DH.

We worked for a few minutes to try to define exactly what it is, and the best words we could come up with are:

unctuous, supercilious, very impressed with himself, but modest about it, glib, hypocritical, perhaps “Pecksniffian” (O’Reilly taught me that word).

At any rate, he carries his career in diplomacy as if it were a badge of superior comprehension, above us mere mortals. I hate diplomatic double-speak, and would always feel a great need to parce his words even more carefully than dear ol’ Bill Clinton’s.


24 posted on 11/12/2011 3:39:06 PM PST by jacquej
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To: jacquej

sorry, misspelled “parce”. I think it is properly spelled “parse”.


25 posted on 11/12/2011 3:40:36 PM PST by jacquej
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To: Kaslin
Hunstman - no way!

Huntsman ‘Love Letter’ to Obama Speaks Volumes

http://bobmccarty.com/2011/06/23/huntsman-love-letter-to-obama-speaks-volumes/

Huntsman’s family gave nearly $25,000 to Reid last cycle

http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/ralstons-flash/2011/jun/22/huntsmans-family-gave-nearly-25000-reid-last-cycle/

“...And if they had a choice – and they did – many members of the newly minted presidential candidate’s family, including his parents, chose Reid in the most important U.S. Senate race in the country last cycle. Indeed, the Huntsmans have long been Reid supporters, although the former governor, who is scheduled to be be in Nevada on Friday, has never given directly to Reid's Senate campaigns.

But his parents and a couple of his brothers (Peter, James) and some in-laws have. And his Dad even helped the Nevada Democratic Party ($5,000) in 2008. I’m told Reid has known the senior Huntsman since the 1990s and is friendly with the son, too...”

26 posted on 11/12/2011 3:40:55 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: Kaslin

Why the hell is this tool in any of the debates. Gary Johnson polls more than this DS.


27 posted on 11/12/2011 3:41:02 PM PST by Fred (no job no house no gas no food no problem Obama 2012)
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To: kidd
NOT ROMMAN!!!! NO HUNTSNEY!!!
28 posted on 11/12/2011 3:46:24 PM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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Stop Goofing Off And Donate


Click The Pic

29 posted on 11/12/2011 4:12:30 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Kaslin
The one plus about Huntsman is that he is Pro life

Right. It doesn't matter a whit to most FReepers the he served in cabinet positions under Ronald Reagan and George H.W. and George W. Bush, in addition to being the Ambassador to China under the present administration, or that he comes from a family that runs a successful enterprise.

Clearly, he's not qualified.

30 posted on 11/12/2011 4:17:56 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (guitars and women.)
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To: jacquej

He said something in the first debate that makes him a no to the H degree. Personally, he creeps me out.


31 posted on 11/12/2011 4:21:36 PM PST by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: Kaslin

Huntsman is a RINO.


32 posted on 11/12/2011 4:30:16 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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FReepathon Day 43!

33 posted on 11/12/2011 4:54:44 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: jacquej

Yes.


34 posted on 11/12/2011 5:37:25 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: milwguy

He is also full of BS.


35 posted on 11/12/2011 8:29:57 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Tenebrous

I thought PJM was one of us, until I heard on Rush that they were carrying water for one of the Cain accusers.
I am now taking what they report with a “grain of salt”.


36 posted on 11/12/2011 9:04:28 PM PST by rikkir (Political office should be a sacrifice, not a reward. Do your service and GO HOME!)
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