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Posted on 11/15/2011 4:30:33 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica

At an Occupy Wall Street offshoot event, an Occupy Oakland protester had the following to say: (Headline: 1,000 at old Occupy Oakland camp to discuss future)

"If they (police) take over the camp, we're going to reoccupy," Ronald "Rasta" Jones, 31, an Oakland resident who had lived in the Occupy Oakland camp since its first day, Oct. 10, said before officers moved in around 5 a.m. to evict people. "Our objective is for them to keep spending money. ... We're not going to stop."

Jones has let the cat out of the bag. Occupy Oakland/Wall Street is the Cloward and Piven strategy, out on the streets. Overload and collapse the system. But what I underlined is also of note. For someone who seems to have such an important thing to say, note how the writers of the article are willing to launder Jones into 'just some protester'. Who is Ronald "Rasta" Jones? And how did they know Jones has been there since day one? Does it strike you odd that they would know that much about him, yet at the same time know absolutely nothing about him? In an article a few days earlier from the same news source, which even includes the same reporter, you will find the following: (Headline: Jean Quan asks Occupy Oakland to cooperate Page 2)

That struck Ronald "Rasta" Jones as a good idea.

Jones has been part of the encampment since the first day and was arrested when police swept the area Oct. 25.

"This is supposed to be a peace movement," said Jones, 31, who is part of the camp's security team and publicly criticizes the defacing and destruction of property. "If we could get City Hall to work with us, it would be a pleasure and an honor."

So the above article misleads all of it's readers into thinking that Jones is just some guy who just so happened to have been there since day one. Yeah, perhaps they could've just asked him, and it's as simple as that. But this second article really casts a huge shadow upon the first one. It's the same author.

But the problem we face is bigger than just the Cloward and Piven strategy being executed on the streets of some major cities. Anti-Capitalist Teach-In Leader: 'We Have People Organizing Inside of the Military'

"The other thing we stress is building a base in the military. If we’re talking about revolution, it means we have to win other some section of the military to be on our side and most of them are working class people just like the rest of us...We have people organizing inside the military...," Rod explained (around 1:50).

The military is, at this point the last bastion of machinery that the progressives have not totally corrupted. If you've ever asked yourself the question as to why it is that they hate the military so much, you're living the answer right now. Here it is. The military is a protection against the tyranny of a revolution. The average progressive can hem and haw all they want about this or that: Iran, Iraq, South America and other examples that are routinely used; when you get to the core leadership of the progressive movement(people you'd likely never run into), people who call the shots and are major players, this is what it's all about. This is why they hate the military.

If you know anybody in the military, you better reach out to them. Invite them over for thanksgiving, thank them for their service to our country, warn them that they're being intentionally targeted with the intent of being used as a tool to permanently end what is the American experiment. If these people are successful, and I cannot stress to you how close.... how so very close they are to achieving their goals. If these people are successful then depending on your age you'll never taste liberty again. Only your children or grand children will. Maybe even regardless of your age, and your children won't see liberty either. Liberty is not the natural state of man, and "once liberty is lost it's typically lost forever". - John Adams


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To: SaraJohnson

They were, of course, also saying we need to move to direct democracy.


21 posted on 11/15/2011 6:12:59 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: Winstons Julia

Direct democracy is what the Occupukes want; aka as mob rule, the French Revoultion, Lord of the Flies, etc.


22 posted on 11/15/2011 7:00:16 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Jean S; wintertime

Go right ahead.

The case of Lt. Col. Lakin strongly supports the assertions made in Post 10.


23 posted on 11/15/2011 7:01:42 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: little jeremiah; ProgressingAmerica

This guy’s got some big smarts....AND....the site’s worth the trip!


24 posted on 11/15/2011 8:07:17 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: All

I don’t know how successful OWS would be in infiltrating the military, but it can be done. al-Qaeda did it with Nidal Hassan.

Honestly, I don’t have an answer for this. This is creepy!


25 posted on 11/15/2011 8:11:34 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: shibumi; MestaMachine; LucyT

Good stuff, great blog!


26 posted on 11/15/2011 8:12:30 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: Absolutely Nobama; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; ...
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Jones has let the cat out of the bag. Occupy Oakland/Wall Street is the Cloward and Piven strategy, out on the streets. Overload and collapse the system.

Check out terrific article.

27 posted on 11/15/2011 10:16:58 PM PST by LucyT
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Placemarker for morning coffee ...


28 posted on 11/15/2011 10:29:13 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Jean S
If he meant the top brass only then he should have said that.

It seemed pretty obvious.

29 posted on 11/16/2011 12:28:05 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
First of all, let's be specific. I narrowed my discussion to less than an handful of people in our very honorable, brave, and highly trained military. Our brave, honorable, and highly trained troops deserve better.

Being a natural born citizen is as nonpartisan as the color of one’s eyes. It is a natural state of being and has absolutely nothing to do with one’s political party.

1) Our very highest military should peacefully and legally seek certifiable clarification from congress and the courts. Both congress and the courts have the subpeona power to legally and peacefully obtain that clarification.

2) If that avenue is blocked, for whatever reason, they can legally and peacefully hold a very public legal and peaceful press conference, explain that certifiable evidence of Obama’s eligibility has been withheld, and then resign. The the next level of officers should be prepared to do the same.

3 Rinse and repeat steps one and two..

Our brave and honorable and highly trained troops deserve a legitimate Commander in Chief who issues rational rules of engagements and who does NOT support political factions, such as the Muslim Brotherhood, that are enemies of the U.S. and dedicated to killing Americans and our soldiers.

30 posted on 11/16/2011 3:47:52 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: Jean S
Wow! Such name calling.

Maybe it is because I really really really ***care*** that our honorable, brave, and highly trained troops serve under a legitimate Commander in Chief who issues rational rules of engagement and isn't supporting factions dedicated to killing them.

Maybe it is because I love the Constitution...ALL of it, even that itty bitty Article 2, Section 1.

Maybe because I love America.

31 posted on 11/16/2011 3:55:59 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

According to your post #5 you wrote “The military is, at this point the last bastion of machinery that the progressives have not totally corrupted. If you’ve ever asked yourself the question as to why it is that they hate the military so much, you’re living the answer right now. Here it is. The military is a protection against the tyranny of a revolution.”

In the eyes of a Leftist there would be no wars if the military did not exist. Warriors are part of the cause of wars in the minds of the Leftist idiot. Borders, Sovereignty, Capitalism, and the rest of the usual torqued reasons as well, but they actually believe this.

They are trying to reach out to the warriors they despise so damned much to use them for their purpose as they, the Left use people in many a hideous manner to achieve their goals of power, and I might add that power they wish to achieve is for totally self serving purpose, but that’s another discussion.

IMO total corruption was achieved with the allowance of Homosexuality to the military. The Left corrupted the military to the point many a fine warrior, protector of the people of this Nation will be signing out as their time is up, and many more that had considered the Military a career will not now participate.


32 posted on 11/16/2011 4:09:00 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

The big problem with “infiltrating the military” is that just about everything the military does, in training and practice, goes against leftist theory.

The reason for this is an odd one. Leftists have long known that the military is actually a more “socialist” organization than society as a whole, because it has to be. It *has* to have conformity in appearance, behavior, logistics, and purpose. Everything in the military is in shortage, so everything must be rationed.

But this is terribly confusing to leftists, because the military is like a socialist “state”. It is not “revolutionary”, it is “counterrevolutionary”. For someone to be a radical in the military means that they are *not* elevated, but are insubordinate and rejected. True socialism does not tolerate what leftists sell.

But leftists may have finally figured this out. So in typical fashion, if they cannot actually *do* something, which is more often the case than not, they *pretend* to do it.

“We (leftists) are already infiltrating the military”, they brag.

And I’ll note that this comes on the heels of the FBI report of “gang” infiltration into the US military, which has to be one of the sillier efforts of the FBI to frighten congress into giving the FBI more money. Seriously, Juggalos? Likely the FBI would more than like to horn in to military activities, to which the Pentagon has long told the FBI to take a hike.

But seriously, leftists infiltrating the military probably peaked with PFC Bradley Manning, who is now likely to spend the rest of his natural life either in Fort Leavenworth, or ADX Florence.


33 posted on 11/16/2011 5:15:03 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Eaker; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ApesForEvolution; ...
CW II Ping. Thanks DW!


34 posted on 11/16/2011 4:47:03 PM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: SaraJohnson
You might want to take a look at this. Those ofwhom you speak are killers without conscience. Their thinking meshes perfectly with Quigley's Pakistani-Preuvian axis

The history of the twentieth century is strewn with their killing fields. So how do the worst get on top? How do these killers, these monsters, acquire what they should never in a million years get their hands on – the apparatus of the state? They’ve got help, and lots of it. They are Antonio Gramsci’s heirs and disciples. The Left’s “useful idiots”. Here’s a little bit of their background:

1. Wishful thinkers (and the mentally lazy) – don’t these people just wish that the world was a nicer place? If only everyone were just as smart, just as clever, just as enlightened as they think they are, it surely would be, wouldn’t it? Wishful thinkers and those like them aren’t really up to doing the heavy lifting to achieve their utopia, but they surely do vote and applaud into power those whom they believe will usher in the New Age. The trouble is, those they empower typically have an agenda that doesn’t quite match that of our dreamers. And no one is more surprised than they are when it all goes bad and the body count – their body count - mounts up.

2. Coercive utopians – they have a lot in common with our wishful thinkers, but they know that no one is going to do what it takes to usher in the new millennium, the New Man or that immanent eschaton. But there’s a problem: put the sort of totalitarian regime necessary to achieve those goals - that is, socialism/communism and all of its imperatives and consequences - right out on the table in front of everyone, and no sane individual would buy it. Who would actively and openly cheer for the impoverishment and enslavement of humankind and the mass murder of those who won’t go along with it? The hard Left, that’s who, and they’ve said as much - but that’s beside the point for now.

The hallmark of coercive types is that they tend to be fairly bloody-minded. For example, Billy Ayers (0bama's good buddy andadvisor) and his wrecking crew thought that once they achieved power would have to slaughter over 25 million Americans too stubborn to toe their utopian socialist line – that was back in the 1970’s so we’re actually giving him a bit of a discount on that 25 million figure. But what’s a few million here and there? Eric Hobsbawm, Marxist historian (now there’s an oxymoron) has also said as much in a BBC interview where he allowed as to how the ’sacrifice’ of millions would have been worth it in order to achieve socialism. So – is a little slaughter and a ‘re-education camp’ or two or 10 not too much a price to pay for heaven on Earth? Not for the coercive utopians. Not by half.

3. Lord of the flies – now we’re at the top of the pyramid of power, and those driven by that insatiable will to power. These are the ones who, once they achieve absolute power, really make things happen. And we’ve got over 260 million dead in this century and the last one to prove it. Now, let’s say that again – that’s 260 million unarmed civilian non-combatants killed by their own governments. They were murdered by those exercising the power of the state. They were starved, gassed, tortured, shot, impaled, burned alive, drowned, frozen to death, hacked apart with hoes, axes and machetes – a litany of brutality and atrocity beyond human imagination. Hundreds of millions more lived their lives enslaved, impoverished and in despair. Communism, socialism, the immanent eschaton – who cares? Ideology is only the particular horse they ride in pursuit of absolute control of mankind.

Those who are driven by the will to power typically disguise their intentions under the guise of ‘achieving the greatest good for the greatest number’ or under the rubrics of social or economic justice. They may claim that they are ‘doing the business of the people’ or that they are acting according to ‘the will of the people’. The statement, ‘It’s for the children,’ should inspire instant disbelief and skepticism. When it has come to creating the ‘New Socialist Man,’ or immanentizing that eschaton or ushering in that New Age, those who advance such arguments remain untroubled by the oceans of blood they would have to spill and the mountains of corpses they would have to pile up in order to realize their dreams. They are all animated by the unrestrained and unappeasable ‘will to power’. The Will to Power plays itself out at all levels. From the malice or indifference of the petty bureaucrat to the most savage and demonic mass murderers of recent times. As we have seen, power and the exercise of that power is more addictive than any drug.

The need is insatiable. The result is horror.

So – where are our modern so-called ‘progressives’ in all of this? Here’s my question for a proud ‘progressive’: If you’re a follower or apologist for today’s political and social multiculturalism, an adherent of liberal democracy, or believe that our culture can continue without a basis in moral absolutes, which camp do you suppose you belong in? Are you a cynical but clever elitist intoxicated by the will to power? Are you on to the deception but support it out of pathological spite? Or are you simply ignorant of your role in the intentional destruction of your culture, even if you think you know what's best for the rest of us?

Finally, here’s a purely practical consideration for all you precious 'progressives' out there: you may want to re-think your premises, because you are not likely to survive the consequences of the very bad ideas you’re advocating. History is my witness.

35 posted on 11/16/2011 4:58:30 PM PST by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: Jack Black

Thanks for the ping!


36 posted on 11/16/2011 5:34:24 PM PST by matthew fuller ((1) fully fund defense, (2) transform entitlement programs, and (3) do not raise taxes!)
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To: Noumenon

That’s very good. Thanks. I recognized people in different categories. Let’s spread it wide and far.


37 posted on 11/16/2011 5:39:28 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

Do, please. We must have no illusions as to the nature of our opponents or the struggle we face.


38 posted on 11/16/2011 6:44:38 PM PST by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: wintertime

Maybe you could post a source that outlines the Constitutional role of the military in certifying elections. I’m not familiar with that part.


39 posted on 11/16/2011 7:01:59 PM PST by Ramius (personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: wintertime

Exacellent reply.


40 posted on 11/16/2011 7:39:02 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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