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What company gave us the 21st century?
11/16/2011 | WesternCulture

Posted on 11/16/2011 1:59:07 AM PST by WesternCulture

Walter Isaacsson has, recently, completed a great work on Steve Jobs.

My relatives will probably force me to read it (even though Isaacson was the former head of CNN, they're Conservatives and I'm a 42 year old with a will of my own) but prefer his magnificent study of Einstein as far books go.

Anyhow, what do people actually understand about how and in what ways the IT sector of the economy has transformed all of our lives?

Being Swedish, I wish to draw attention to what a marvelous revolution a certain poor peasant boy from the region of Värmland once initiated.

His last name was Ericsson.

Why did mobile telecommunication explode in Scandinavia already in the late 1980's (when most other people were using silly pagers), howcome Nordic governments were so daring in building/promoting real mobile infrastructure back then and why have California and Japan lost so much ground to companies like Ericsson and Nokia (and why couldn't Skype have been invented in, say, Osaka?)

You can't just all blame it on Bush..

(Nice link below)


TOPICS: Business/Economy; History; Society
KEYWORDS: ericsson; invention; it; scandinavia; sweden; technology; telecommunication

1 posted on 11/16/2011 1:59:08 AM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

The history of wireless communication:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5jPoQzEh-M


2 posted on 11/16/2011 1:59:28 AM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

You could say that all the companies that are shipping all the jobs offshore America and mortgage crisis and economic crises have given us the 21st century. :)


3 posted on 11/16/2011 2:15:00 AM PST by Jonty30
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To: WesternCulture

“What company gave us the 21st Century?”

This question is premature and absurd. The 21st Century has yet to arrive as close to 90 years of it remain to be seen.

If you could name just one company (impossible, IMHO) as being responsible for bringing us “the future” it would have to have been one whose accomplishments and contributions happened back in the 20th Century. We’re still closer to living in the 20th Century than we are to the 21st.

Nothing changes on New Year’s Day.


4 posted on 11/16/2011 2:39:38 AM PST by equaviator ( "There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: Jonty30

“You could say that all the companies that are shipping all the jobs offshore America and mortgage crisis and economic crises have given us the 21st century. :)”

- I see what you mean, but is this the kind of sentimnt we Westerners should nourish?


5 posted on 11/16/2011 2:41:35 AM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

Motorola.


6 posted on 11/16/2011 2:46:28 AM PST by BigCinBigD
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To: WesternCulture

Motorola.


7 posted on 11/16/2011 2:46:29 AM PST by BigCinBigD
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To: WesternCulture

Of course not, but is what is being rewarded.


8 posted on 11/16/2011 2:46:29 AM PST by Jonty30
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To: WesternCulture
his [Isaacson's] magnificent study of Einstein?

I have read his bio of Einstein. It is thin gruel compared to the biographical works of, say, Manchester, Caro, Martin Gilbert, Toland, et al.

9 posted on 11/16/2011 2:57:27 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Cain/Newt)
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To: equaviator

What corporative efforts bring about real change?

Personally, I think Ericsson has altered the way we live and communicate more than any other company. Ford Motor Company of course is a rival.

Other people might disagree.

Best of regards from Gothenburg, Sweden.


10 posted on 11/16/2011 2:59:37 AM PST by WesternCulture
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To: RoosterRedux

“I have read his bio of Einstein. It is thin gruel compared to the biographical works of, say, Manchester, Caro, Martin Gilbert, Toland, et al.”

- Noted.


11 posted on 11/16/2011 3:00:55 AM PST by WesternCulture
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To: BigCinBigD
Motorola in many ways spearheaded mobile telecommunication, just like Nokia did, but Ericsson bothered more about the infrastructural aspect than competitors.

This aspect of their planning has paid off.

12 posted on 11/16/2011 3:06:31 AM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
Hey, all you FReepers! Don't you know that without Sweden we'd still be in the dark ages?

That about sum up your posting history, WC?

13 posted on 11/16/2011 3:11:07 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Jonty30

I won’t sponsor your trip, but why not find a nice Scandinavian girl/boy through the Internet, a job over here in Sweden and build a nice house for yourselves?

F**k that attitude of yours. At least some relative must have been a warrior in your history. Come on.


14 posted on 11/16/2011 3:18:09 AM PST by WesternCulture
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To: raybbr

- You think you’re funny, or what?

I’m your banker.

Do you wish to dig deeper into this subject?


15 posted on 11/16/2011 3:23:48 AM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

No better soldiers in the world, then us Canadians.

But Sweden women are very pretty.


16 posted on 11/16/2011 3:27:37 AM PST by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30

“No better soldiers in the world, then us Canadians.”

You’re not dead yet, so I assume the Scots of the 18th century performed better in this respect.


17 posted on 11/16/2011 3:33:45 AM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

They’re dead, we’re not.

We win!

Hitler had high respect for the Canadians, apparently because we had the biggest heads in WWII, amongst the prisoners.

But I do understand that he also feared the Scots. “Ladies from Hell”, he called them.


18 posted on 11/16/2011 3:41:19 AM PST by Jonty30
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To: WesternCulture

It’s not a valid question. Ask who brought us the 20th century and Ford might be a reasonable answer. But where would Ford be without Standard Oil or Firestone or US Steel? It’s simply not a reasonable question.


19 posted on 11/16/2011 3:42:44 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: WesternCulture

20 posted on 11/16/2011 3:47:49 AM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: muir_redwoods

Indeed. Where would electronics be today had Lee de Forest not invented the vacuum tube?


21 posted on 11/16/2011 3:52:45 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: WesternCulture

Its the Internet...created by US Miltary


22 posted on 11/16/2011 5:04:03 AM PST by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: tophat9000; WesternCulture
>> It's the Internet...created by US Military <<

Correction:

It's the Internet . . . created by US Military Algore!

23 posted on 11/16/2011 6:13:08 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: WesternCulture

>> why couldn’t Skype have been invented in, say, Osaka? <<

I can’t answer your question. But in any case, Skype was invented in the non-Nordic country of Estonia.

(Estonia has wanted to join the Nordic Council for many years. But the Nordics simply won’t accept them.)


24 posted on 11/16/2011 6:21:23 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: BigCinBigD; WesternCulture

>> Motorola <<

Not to denigrate Motorola’s admirable business successes, but the firm would have been unable to develop its cellular phone offerings and its various solid-state products without the pioneering, breakthrough work of AT&T’s Bell Labs.

That is, not only did Bell Labs lead the way in developing the transistor, but they also came up with the whole concept of cellular phone technology. The latter development occurred something like 20 years before the always-slowpoke FCC finally got around to letting various firms (like Motorola) implement cellular phone networks.

Therefore, I gotta say that AT&T should rank much higher on the honor roll than “copycats” like Motorola, Ericsson, Nokia, GTE, etc.


25 posted on 11/16/2011 6:32:38 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: equaviator

At this point I would have to nominate Ford, Boeing, and IBM.


26 posted on 11/16/2011 7:58:05 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: ccmay

“Ford, Boeing, and IBM”

- I said the 21st century.


27 posted on 11/19/2011 3:48:07 AM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
I meant the 21st century. No three companies in any country have done more to affect the way we live now.

If you want to talk about the promising future of some Swedish company, feel free, but these are the ones that shaped the lifestyle of the 21st century by their actions in the 20th.

28 posted on 11/19/2011 12:16:04 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: WesternCulture
You’re not dead yet

Nope. But I've had plenty of close calls. Thought you might appreciate this.

h/t



Norwegian.

English.
29 posted on 11/28/2011 1:37:32 PM PST by caveat emptor (America is on a temporary leave of absence.)
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To: WesternCulture
Just another one of WesternCulture's 'America Sucks! Europe is Better!' threads. Thread #23.
30 posted on 09/11/2014 10:14:27 PM PDT by CodeToad (Romney is a raisin cookie looking for chocolate chip cookie votes.)
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