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Republicans greased the way for same-sex marriage bill
America's Party News ^ | Nov. 17, 2011 | Chris Carmouche

Posted on 11/17/2011 5:26:50 AM PST by EternalVigilance

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To: C. Edmund Wright
I agree with you.

I for one will look forward to seeing Ben Nelson and Claire McCaskill squirm when vote time comes. As will even many Senate Dems who are generally considered moderate to left-leaning.

And it would be oh-so-wonderful to see the House resoundingly defeat the bill. That one action alone will rally much support for the GOP in Nov '12.

21 posted on 11/17/2011 6:13:58 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: EternalVigilance

I don’t think deeply moral matters are a political toy, but if you think this issue could have been extinguished inside a committee’s use of Roberts Rules of Orders, then your are more naive than I thought you were.

And that’s saying something.

And another thing that is aggrevating as hell about you: you assume that anyone who decides on a different TACTIC than you MUST BE subversively hoping for a DIFFERENT OUTCOME.

Be WISE AS SERPENTS and gentle as doves.......you should pay attention to part A of that advise.


22 posted on 11/17/2011 6:14:37 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: Siena Dreaming

>> And it would be oh-so-wonderful to see the House resoundingly defeat the bill. That one action alone will rally much support for the GOP in Nov ‘12. >>

DING DING DING - we have a winner. You are right, and it would send a powerful message about support of marriage as well. WiN WIN WIN.


23 posted on 11/17/2011 6:16:00 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: hocndoc
The third party is EternalVigilance’s agenda.

Nah. My agenda is the reestablishment of principle as the plumb line in American politics, not party.

Although, now that you mention it, a second party, one that is actually principled, would be helpful in accomplishing that goal.

But, in any case, the original source of the materials in this article, grasstopsusa.com, is Republican as far as I know.

24 posted on 11/17/2011 6:19:18 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: C. Edmund Wright

The flaw in your argument is the idea that this bill is somehow “harmless.” It’s not.

In a day when the country desperately needs statesmanship, you’re cheering for the crass politicians who are giving us nothing but more of the gamesmanship that got us in this mess in the first place.


25 posted on 11/17/2011 6:21:42 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: All

Another bit of GOP election year political theater, this time on guns:

http://www.americaspartynews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=22854&posts=1#M59196


26 posted on 11/17/2011 6:30:53 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
the reestablishment of principle

What can be more principled than weakening the Dems' power on this issue by forcing them to go on official record instead of just yapping their gums on TV and either display their support of perversion or waffle thereby inviting disdain from their left-wing baase?

Principle is working to defeat perversion, not just talking about it; exposing the Dems on the issue does just that.

Forcing a vote isn't only about passing laws. Many votes result in defeat. But things can still be accomplished such as exposing perverts just in time for election day.

27 posted on 11/17/2011 6:32:01 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming

I pray that someday soon you will be able to see the utter futility of these sorts of political games.


28 posted on 11/17/2011 6:33:35 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Siena Dreaming

The old not-so-funny but oh-so-true joke is that in DC the Democrats come up with a proposal to tear down the Washington Monument and the Republicans can be counted on to respond with a plan to do it in three stages.

That’s the way it works. And that is why you kill stuff like this DEAD at the earliest possible moment.


29 posted on 11/17/2011 6:36:49 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
It's not a "game" or a "toy" as you put it, but it is politics.

And politics (which includes scheduling votes to increase your advantage) will be with us until the end of time.

I say use this strategy to ramp up the timetable to defeat the perverts instead of talking ad infinitum and delaying the process. That's good politics and a blow to perverts at the same time.

30 posted on 11/17/2011 6:38:50 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming

Your theory would work, perhaps, in an imaginary world that consisted of principled, smart Republicans.


31 posted on 11/17/2011 6:55:25 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Far from a theory. It's the opposite. It's pragmatic action. Getting people on the record is what happens all the time.

And it will be used to actually help defeat the gays...not just talk.

32 posted on 11/17/2011 7:13:03 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming

Yeah, right.


33 posted on 11/17/2011 7:14:43 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

As a female, the “pantywaist” is a integral part of my undergarment, just as truthfulness and integrity are vital parts of my being.

We cannot change the Dems, we can help them expose themselves to Conservative voters.


34 posted on 11/17/2011 7:15:48 AM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed: Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: hocndoc

Why have committees then? Just have everyone vote on every stupid, immoral notion any Senator dreams up.


35 posted on 11/17/2011 7:20:17 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Why have committees

Same reason you have legislatures in general...to decide what legislation out of thousands of possibilities will be dealt with.

Gay marriage is a good one to finally get on the record.

36 posted on 11/17/2011 7:25:57 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming

It’s already on the record. It’s the law.

And the Republicans just helped advance legislation to change that, when they could have killed it.

Let’s continue to make that clear.


37 posted on 11/17/2011 7:34:50 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
It’s already on the record

As I stated before, it's a matter of getting individual politicians on the record.

Important in the overall strategy to finally defeat it.

38 posted on 11/17/2011 7:37:37 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming

No. It’s just a phony game, exquisitely designed and perfected to fool the people again.


39 posted on 11/17/2011 7:41:48 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
I don't see that the Repubs are trying to fool anyone other than the Dems who will be exposed. There's no way the bill will pass so who's being fooled?

And when the GOP House defeats it they will benefit. They always look better to conservatives when they go on record as having defeated something heinous.

40 posted on 11/17/2011 7:46:45 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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