Skip to comments.70% OF AMERICAN MUSLIMS SAY US SHOULD IMPOSE SHARIA: LEGALIZED POLYGAMY
Posted on 11/17/2011 11:39:34 PM PST by expat1000
I believe the government should legalize polygamy because it is lawful in Islam. It would enable all the wives to have the same legal status." -- Muslima in an Islamic polygamous marriage
nearly 70 percent said they believe that the U.S. should legalize polygamy 42 percent of those surveyed said they were either in, or knew others in polygamous marriages within the local Muslim community. Thirty nine percent said they would engage in a polygamous marriage if it were legal in the United States.
Islamic supremacism on the march in America. Just as the Muslim Brotherhood groups in the US, like Hamas-linked CAIR, exploited the the black experience in America to impose Islam on the secular marketplace by playing the civil rights card. They are now using the "gay marriage" narrative to legalize multiple wives under the sharia. Read it all.
I have written on Muslim polygamy in the US here. And here: 100,000 US Muslims engage in polygamy.
What's next? Child brides? That is sanctioned under the sharia. That's an "alternative lifestyle" sanctioned by Islam and "religious freedom under the Constitution." Honor killings? Clitorectomies? All sanctioned under the sharia, and as Ground Zero mosque Imam Rauf reminded us in his book, you cannot cherry-pick the sharia. It's all or .........
In his own book from 2000, "Islam: A Sacred Law," he wrote this on p. 58: "And since a Shari'ah is understood as a law with God at its center, it is not possible in principle to limit the Shari'ah to some aspects of human life and leave out others."
Survey: 70% of Muslims say U.S. should legalize polygamy MuslimLink.com via creeping As Legal Marriage Is Redefined, Some Muslim Call for Decriminalizing Polygamy
The legalization of gay marriage in six states and the continued efforts toward legalizing it in the rest of the country has opened the flood gates that have, for hundreds of years defined legal marriage in the United States as the union between one man and one woman.
As more proponents of gay marriage push bills through Congress and rally votes that support marriage as a constitutional right for all citizens regardless of sexual orientation another group that remains decidedly outside the legal confines of marriage is slowly entering the limelight.
Over 130 years ago a decision was made that criminalized the practice of polygamy in the United States.
Despite the redefinition of legal marriage to include homosexual couples, the country still grapples at the idea of polygamy, a commonly misunderstood primarily religiously based practice.
With an estimated 50,000 to 100,000 people living in polygamous situations in the U.S. today, few have seen their actions reprimanded in court. This is likely because many live in secrecy out of fear that exposure of their practices will result in loss of jobs, break apart their families, or land them in jail. However, even in cases where polygamy is known, few states move to actually prosecute the individuals involved.
While some choose to quietly live their lives as they please, married legally only to one woman but to others only through religious ceremonies, there are murmurs among the polygamist community as the country moves toward the legalization of gay marriage.
Just as the gay community has fought for equal treatment under the law, polygamists argue the same. As citizens of the United States, they argue, they should have the right to legally marry whoever they please, or however many they please.
In the same regard that the gay community faced stark opposition from religious organizations that diligently fought, and continue to fight the idea of gay marriage on religious grounds, polygamists communities face similar religious stigmas.
While the U.S. Constitution boasts a separation of church and state, which ultimately helped the gay community overcome the opposition, it also guarantees the free exercise of religion which has somewhat ironically been the biggest obstacle for the polygamist community.
Because polygamy is considered a derivative of certain religious beliefs it would logically seem as though the practice of polygamy would then be protected under constitutional law. However, this is not the case, and has not been since Reynolds vs. United States in 1978 in which the court refused to recognize polygamy as a legitimate religious practice. Instead, it was deemed it as almost exclusively a feature of the life of Asiatic and African people. Later decisions showed no progress in accepting polygamy as a legitimate religious practice despite its longstanding historic presence in Christianity, Judaism and Islam. Instead the court declared it to be contrary to the spirit of Christianity and of the civilization which Christianity has produced in the Western World, equating it to a type of barbarism.
Many argue that polygamy is an exception to the free exercise of religion because known cases of polygamous marriages of young girls. This cast a shadow on the practice and many ignorantly equated it with pedophilia. Recent attacks on the Prophet Muhammad also equated his marriage to Aisha, who was nine at the time, as an act of pedophilia. In cases where religious practices are deemed harmful to individuals or to the public, the free exercise of religion no longer applies.
While Islam itself does not condone acts of homosexuality and though the mainstream Muslim community remains largely uninvolved with polygamy in the United States, there are a minority who still engage in the practice though largely in secrecy for fear of retribution. While some masajids require legal proof of marriage prior to granting an Islamic marriage, some Imams like Baltimore citys Hassan Amin believe polygamy to be a god-given right that cannot be denied to those who are willing and able despite the potential legal ramifications.
I dont have any problem with that because its Deen. Im doing it for religion, said Amin who admits to performing polygamous marriages.
bet they didn’t ask women.....
with all the “niceties” of sharia, that would be a valid issue all right.
wonder what these moose would say about letting a woman have multiple husbands?
Jihad per TV realism series- All American Muslims
TLC Sunday, 9 PM CST
It is an attempt to manipulate Americans into ignoring the threat of jihad and to bully them into thinking that being concerned about the jihad threat would somehow victimize these nice people in this show.
The problem people have with Islam is its teachings of violence against and the subjugation of unbelievers. It is with the supremacist ideology and the fervent believers in those noxious doctrines of warfare and subjugation. Yhe ultimate danger posed by a program presenting the normal side of life for American Muslims is that it isnt accurate.
The danger is in the deception and obfuscation of the truth which results in the intellectual disarming of the American people.
Email TLC. Protest
I’d drink to that in Mecca - if it were legal.
No surprise at all...
Over 130 years ago a decision was made that criminalized the practice of polygamy in the United States.
Polygamy was always against the law...
it was called “unlawful cohabitation”
What happen 130 years ago in 1890 was a Mormon leader decided that he berrer pretend to end polygamy amongst Mormons or the US government would put him and his fellow serial adeulterers in prison and confiscate their lands and belongings..
However that Mormon leader called a “prophet” continued to have morte than one wife until his death as did several others...
In fact that same Mormon “prophet” “married” another “wife” about 1895 a few years after his so called “proclamation...”
The Mormon doctrine for polygamy D&C 132 is still a viable belief in the Mormon religion...
Mormons believe that a male must have several wives in order to become a “god” and rtherefore go to the Mpormon afterlife and live in the highest “heaven” as god over his own planet..
Moermons believe that when trheir mormon jesus returns he will initiate polygamy again...
The Mormon candidate for POTUS Williard Mitt Romney and his cousin Jopn huntsman are the descendants of a polygamous family...
When Romney was asked about his grandfathers many wives he said polygamy was awful but he never denounced it or saiud that it should be unlawful...
Like the Moslems of whom “Thirty nine percent said they would engage in a polygamous marriage if it were legal in the United States.”, about the same percentage of Mormons said the same thing just a few years ago...
Tens of thousands of Mormons living in Utah still practice polygamy today...
As long as its not homosexuality, the Mormons dont seem to see the practice of polygamy as deviant sex...
THe LORD God of the Christian Bible condemns polygamy along with homosexual activites equally...
and both have always been against the law in the United States..
Sharia will not work in my house. My wife will kill me immediately, if I told her I was getting a 2nd wife.
bet they didnt ask women...
They did ask
a Muslima is a female Muslim...
“I believe the government should legalize polygamy because it is lawful in Islam. It would enable all the wives to have the same legal status.” — Muslima in an Islamic polygamous marriage
However she doesnt mean “the same legal status.” as the men...
just other women who are concubines to the same guy ...
Muslim women from Muslim countries who are living in the U.S. ostensibly as single women are obsessively secretive and evasive about their personal lives and seem to be living with huge secrets.
And we've been hearing so much noise from them too !
100% of the muslims in America should convert to Christianity.
The true meaning of 'scum bag'
"It would enable all the wives to have the same legal status"? Now THAT has got to be THE most hypocritical statement I've ever read in my life! The "legal status" of women under Sharia is that of PROPERTY.
So it's no wonder it was uttered by a propertied female "muslima" - after being cleared by her "husband/owner."
Good GOD these people are sickening!
I bet Mitts is having some wet dreams after he heard about this....
And then there is newt and his past wives, he could have a harem soon by backing this Moslem ideology.
How about instead of instituting sharia, we just stone them all and they can pretend?
There, fixed it for you, as you intentionally left something out.
Jihadists ought go get out while the gettins good!
I don’t see any actual poll here. What is the methodology? Is this the author’s opinion?
I guess that any Americans who oppose sharia law should have their heads cut off?
“Richard II (1367-1400), King of England, married his second wife, Isabella of Valois (1389-1409) a few days before her 7th birthday. They spent time together but there is no record of consummation.”
H. Eugene Lehman writes of Isabella of Valois in his book Lives of England’s Reigning and Consort Queens:
‘His new child-bride was treated as an adopted daughter, in which the consummation of marriage was never contemplated. The tender and mutual relationship that developed between Richard and Isabella was entirely that of a deeply affectionate father and daughter, or of a doting uncle for his niece.’
Why would we accept dictates from a system that is waging war against America??
islam is a political/social/religious cult with the goal of destroying western civilization.
Polygamy was outlawed when Utah became a state - the only time that Congress passed a law in violation of freedom of religion and the Supreme Court upheld it.
If polygamy were to be reintroduced, the Mormons would sue, all those in jail for polygamy would be freed and they could sue and, guess what, we pay for it.
Yeah, me too. I followed the article a few links deep and then lost interest. I'm sure there's a poll behind it somewhere.
Just guessing, which is that it was a political marriage to consolidate an alliance between countries or factions.
No thank you one wife is enough.
Will they include that the husband can only beat his wife with a stick no bigger in diameter than his thumb?
Pedophilia is lawful under Islam
Slavery is legal under Islam
Wife beating is lawful under Islam
Honor killing is lawful under Islam
Should I go on?
I clicked through a number of links, but the closest I could find was:
"This story, and survey results, from the Muslim Brotherhood Linked newspaper out of Maryland"
In related news, 70% of American Christians would like to impose Christian laws in the Middle East. I know many of the simple-minded here will accuse me of "defending terrorists", but is this study really a big surprise?
Although I don't agree with polygamy, it would be a step up from the social arrangement we now have. If a man desires to have multiple wives (all consenting adults) and financially supports all of his children, what's the problem? Currently, an unwed man can father multiple children, not pay a single dime for their support and leave the taxpayers to pick up the tab with welfare programs. Which system infringes on my fundamental right to property (the money I earn)?
If conservatives are ever going to win the culture war, we need to look at the issues rationally and be willing to defend the rights of those we may disagree with - as long as they do not wish harm upon us (as most Muslims do). Am I advocating Sharia law? Absolutely not, but we certainly need to take a closer look at how our government regulates personal relationships between adults, while supposedly small-government "conservatives" remain silent.
some women would consider it a good deal to be part of a harem and not have to service Abdullah every night
70% of American liberals agree.
> I believe the government should legalize polygamy because it is lawful in Islam. It would enable all the wives to have the same legal status.” — Muslima in an Islamic polygamous marriage
But this is America, Haji, it ain’t Muzloidland. If you don’t like our laws and system then go back to Muzloidland where you can be happy wiping your butt with sand and sleeping with you camels and goats.
perhaps because Uncle Richard preferred men
An unidentified poll offered by a fundamentalist Muslim website says 70% of Muslims want to impose Sharia law? Why should anyone be skeptical about the accuracy of something like that?
They don’t belong here.
why would ANY sane man want two wives???
(donning asbestos suit now .....)
Realistically they should be called muzzies in America because they are only nominally American.
You could very well end up killing yourself, as they would constantly bicker.
Whatever sounds good on paper doesn’t always turn out good in reality.
“THe LORD God of the Christian Bible condemns polygamy along with homosexual activites equally...”
I’m unaware of where the Bible vigorously condemns polygamy as strongly as it does homosexuality.
If it is legal for butt-pluggers to marry, then it is hard to explain why polygamy is outlawed.
THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHICHAPTER 224 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.
Or even HERE:
1 Timothy 3:2-3
2. Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
3. not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.1 Timothy 3:12
A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.Titus 1:6
An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTSSECTION 1325157, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 5866, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
5157, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 5866, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
~ Wilford Woodruff, 4th LDS President
I sure don't want any of MY ex's BACK!
Sure a LOT of that going on!!!
It is their choice to make, but they're going to have to choose.
JESUS: Hey Smith! Remember that boast you made about doing more than even I had done to hold the 'church' together?
JOSEPH SMITH: Where am I?
JESUS: Don't you remember? A few seconds ago you were in that jail.
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah; but where am I NOW?
JESUS: Don't you remember? Does bang - bang ring a bell?
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah - that crummy gun I had was about USELESS!
JESUS: I hope you left instructions on how to hold your church together.
JOSEPH SMITH: Dang! I knew there was SOMETHING I was forgetting!
JESUS: Looks like there's a power struggle going on down there.
JOSEPH SMITH: Yeah; there was always SOMEone who wanted the power that I held - especially over the LADIES - wink wink.
JESUS: No need to worry about that now; remember what my friend Matthew wrote down?
JOSEPH SMITH: This? At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven (Matthew 22:30)
JESUS: That's it.
JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.
JESUS: Nah - it was right.
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh well; it was fun while it lasted. My buds will still get it on with the girls.
JESUS: Uh; I'm sorry; in just a few more years; your followers will cavein to the United States government and abandon the 'Eternal Covenant' that you came up with.
JOSEPH SMITH: ME!? YOU are the one that told me to do that!
JESUS: Sorry; but you must have mistranslated what I told you. What part of Do NOT commit ADULTERY did you not understand?
JOSEPH SMITH: mumble....
JESUS: What did you say?
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, nothing.
JESUS: Well; it was interesting talking to you; but now I must get back to perparing a place for those who believe in Me.
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, yeah; the Celestial Kingdom.
JOSEPH SMITH: The Telestial one?
JOSEPH SMITH: SUREly not the TERRESTRIAL one!!
JESUS: Nope. Didn't you read that the mind of man had NOT conceived of it? Paul wrote it down in 1 Corinthians 2:9.
JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.
JESUS: No; it wasn't.
JOSEPH SMITH: You SURE?
JESUS: Yes. Now I must be going: what did you say your name was again?
JOSEPH SMITH: Joseph Smith.
JESUS: Hmmmm. According to my Heavenly FAITHbook, you didn't sign in as one of my friends - sorry, I never knew you.
JOSEPH SMITH: But....
I am SO tired of 'polls' determining TRUTH in America!
Someone remind me, which potential Republican nominee has spoken out against this heinous political system disguised as a religion? I seem to remember he “gets” it. Ah, it’s on the tip of my tongue.....