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Release the Mugs (Obama for America's Alinski fundraising off Taitz in NH and Arpaio's posse)
Obama for America ^ | November 19, 2011 | Julianna Smoot

Posted on 11/20/2011 10:13:04 AM PST by Seizethecarp

Yesterday, four Republicans in the New Hampshire State House allowed a hearing requested by Orly Taitz, the notorious dentist-lawyer-birther who wants President Obama officially removed from the state's primary ballot.

So in honor of conspiracy theorists everywhere, we're re-releasing the campaign's limited-edition "Made in the USA" mugs.

There's clearly nothing we can do to satisfy this crowd—or anyone else who insists on wasting time and energy on nonsense like this.

But when it starts to make your head hurt, I've found the best remedy is to have some tea in my "Made in the USA" mug.

Works like a charm. I recommend Earl Grey.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: joearpaio; naturalborncitizen; obama; obama457states; obama4notruth; orlytaitz; taitz4america; taitz4truth
(related fundraiser addressed to Obama for America contributors includes nervous reference to Arpaio's posse and his request for Obama's BC microfiche) --

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It's no surprise that professional conspiracy theorists are still on the birth-certificate warpath -- but now elected officials are getting their backs.

Yesterday, four Republicans in the New Hampshire State House supported a hearing requested by a group of birthers who want President Obama officially removed from the state's primary ballot.

It's not clear whether all this is a smokescreen or whether these dead-enders actually believe this stuff. But they aren't letting the facts get in their way -- one group in Arizona has even demanded that the President "release the microfiche" of his birth certificate.

Sadly, I don't have any microfiches on hand, but we have the next best thing: In honor of birthers everywhere, we're re-releasing the campaign's limited-edition "Made in the USA" mugs.

Donate $20 or more today and we'll send you one -- complete with a reprint of the President's birth certificate on the side for everyone to see.

Here's what one of the state representatives backing the effort had to say about yesterday's hearing: "I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but even I could take [the long-form birth certificate] apart and see that it was fraudulent."

Well, I won't argue with one part of that statement.

There's clearly nothing we can do to satisfy this crowd -- or anyone else who insists on wasting time and energy on nonsense like this.

But when it starts to make your head hurt, I've found the best remedy is to have some tea in my "Made in the USA" mug.

Works like a charm. I recommend Earl Grey:

https://donate.barackobama.com/Birth-Certificate-Mug

Thanks,

Julianna

Julianna Smoot Deputy Campaign Manager Obama for America

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Obama for America is "protesting too much," IMO. It appears to me that the Obama campaign is "all wee-wee'd up" and is trying to "innoculate" supporters from hearing the NH eligibility hearing story which broke through the normally complicit media blockade yesterday. The Obama team wants supporters to hear about this story first from them with Alinski-playbook mockery and spin applied (accuse the other side of doing what you are actually doing...lying, IMO):

http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/293382/birther-bid-to-derail-obama-blocked?page=0,0&CSAuthResp=1321741581%3Annro2h4drel5c5m76thbcbmg90%3ACSUserId%7CCSGroupId%3Aapproved%3A12FB85F527D393ED75432DB8B84D07BE&CSUserId=94&CSGroupId=1

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"State Ballot Law Commission members called traitors"

As state election officials yesterday rejected California lawyer Orly Taitz's argument to keep President Obama's name off the New Hampshire presidential ballot, supporters lining the hearing room in the Legislative Office Building cried out in protest.

"Traitors!" shouted one woman. "Spineless traitors!"

"Saying a treasonous liar can go on our ballot?" yelled State Rep. Harry Accornero, a Republican from Laconia. "You're going to have to face the citizens of Laconia. You better wear a mask."

"This is bigger than Watergate. This is a hundred times bigger than Watergate," Taitz said. "Ladies and gentlemen, in your hands is national security for the United States of America."

But the commission wasn't convinced.

"Is there any decision, any place, by any body - adjudicatory body - to the questions you're asking?" said the chairman, Bradford Cook. "Because they've been asked a lot of places."

"No, but -" Taitz began.

"No," Cook said. "Thank you."

He then addressed the several dozen other people in the room, a number of whom were videotaping the hearing: "Does anybody have factual evidence - not opinions, not rumors, not thoughts?"

"It's the Constitution, sir," said Dick Marple, a former state representative. "It states we must respect the law of nations." He went on to say that the British Nationality Act makes Obama a British citizen, since Obama's father was born in Kenya, which was still a British colony when Obama was born.

"What took place after that is not even germane to the issue," Marple said.

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The WND take on the story regarding the request by Sheriff Arpaio for the HI micro-fiche is here:

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=363025

FReeper GregNH testified at the hearing and provides the one-hour video here:

http://youtu.be/BUcyb5pmUKI

Related FR link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2809790/posts?q=1&;page=1

1 posted on 11/20/2011 10:13:08 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

Concord Monitor story which may have spooked Obama for America:

http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/293382/birther-bid-to-derail-obama-blocked?page=0,0&CSAuthResp=1321741581%3Annro2h4drel5c5m76thbcbmg90%3ACSUserId%7CCSGroupId%3Aapproved%3A12FB85F527D393ED75432DB8B84D07BE&CSUserId=94&CSGroupId=1


2 posted on 11/20/2011 10:15:16 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

Waiting for OB to ask the USSC to rule on the definition of Natural Born Citizen, just to me and others in our place.


3 posted on 11/20/2011 10:16:15 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Seizethecarp

What would be sort of cool is if someone could create a BO “birth certificate” coffee mug that shows, under the “official” WH-released “document” (when filled with hot liquid, you’ve seen other novelty coffee mugs like this) the REAL birth certificate underneath.

If it exists, that is.

:)


4 posted on 11/20/2011 10:18:59 AM PST by thecodont
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To: Seizethecarp

How bout this....
If Obummer can get away from the “natural born citizen” clause in the Constitution, how bout Russian born Orly?

Orly Taitz for PRESIDENT!

Let’s get a campaign going to get Orly on the NH ballot.


5 posted on 11/20/2011 10:34:07 AM PST by hapnHal (hapnHal)
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To: Seizethecarp
426 days, 23 hours.
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6 posted on 11/20/2011 10:47:48 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Seizethecarp

Take the poll:

Bambi’s real father was

1) The Kenyan Barack Obama Sr.

2) Stanley Dunham (also his grandfather?)

3) Malcolm-X

4) Frank Marshal Davis (also his molester)

5) Satan


7 posted on 11/20/2011 10:56:40 AM PST by Blado (2008: Year Zero of the Zombie Apocalypse.)
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To: LucyT; GregNH; Danae; WhizCodger
ping...

Obama for America's Alinski-style fund raising counterattack shows extreme fear of Orly's NH hearing and Arpaio’s posse...

8 posted on 11/20/2011 11:04:49 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

don’t address the questions... make a mug!

typical libtard thinking. seriously, who let these people out of day care?


9 posted on 11/20/2011 11:06:45 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Seizethecarp
Obama seems to be ok as far as the citizen issue goes ...legally.

But, I still don't understand why him holding a Connecticut Social Security Card issued while he was in high school in Hawaii is of no interest to the media or our congress.

10 posted on 11/20/2011 11:22:02 AM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: Blado

All of the above.


11 posted on 11/20/2011 11:29:20 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: Seizethecarp

reposting to make the links live...

The WND take on the story regarding the request by Sheriff Arpaio for the HI micro-fiche is here:

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=363025

FReeper GregNH testified at the hearing and provides the one-hour video here:

http://youtu.be/BUcyb5pmUKI


12 posted on 11/20/2011 11:35:08 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: LucyT; Danae
The timing of the April 27 “release” of the forged BC was triggered:

1. On the same day that Corsi’s book including Danae’s proof that a long form BC from the 1960’s could still be obtained by a regular citizen

2. Just as Trump's denunciation of the short-form BC was gaining national attention (following Chris Matthews and Gov Abercrombie breaching the Obama defense that only racists and GOP dead-enders would question whether there was an original 1961 LFBC on file in HI)

3. Just as many states were on the verge of putting candidate submission of a certified original BC as a requirement to get on the 2012 ballot. AZ’s law passed both houses but was vetoed by the GOP governor...but other states were threatening to break the impasse on April 27.

The Obama team's sensitivity on this last point is what is betrayed by the near instant attempted preemptive smack-down of the Orly Taitz hearing in NH and the Arpaio posse's threat to ballot eligibility.

On the Daily Kos, the few remaining Obama defenders have been outraged by the previous Obama for America fund-raising use of "the BC mug" which they regard (correctly) as actually giving credibility to the attack on the BC.

13 posted on 11/20/2011 11:50:58 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Baynative
“Obama seems to be ok as far as the citizen issue goes ...legally.”

Obama only claims to have “released” his original 1961 BC, but he has not actually legally done so.

At the same time his legal team continues to fight to the death against _actually_ legally releasing HI DOH to in fact release the LFBC which prevents if from being entered into evidence in any federal court or from being examined by any certified evidence examiner.

This screams “I am hiding something!” which can only be something having a bearing on eligibility, IMO.

14 posted on 11/20/2011 12:07:36 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
But the commission wasn't convinced.

Well what a surprise!

15 posted on 11/20/2011 12:12:55 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (WE ARE AMERICA! DONATE TO FR MORE!)
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To: Seizethecarp

#3 Would make a good icon daddy.

Planned for such a time as now.


16 posted on 11/20/2011 12:15:02 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (WE ARE AMERICA! DONATE TO FR MORE!)
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To: Seizethecarp

Semi-facetious idea: Why doesn’t someone (Orly Taitz comes to mind) purchase one of the “Birth Certificate Mugs” and file a lawsuit, on the basis that the info on the mug that induced her to buy it is fraudulent. This would create standing and a legal opportunity for “discovery”. (Of course the sellers would just go out of business rather than contest it — what a shame).


17 posted on 11/20/2011 12:34:10 PM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: Blado

I’ll take number 2.


18 posted on 11/20/2011 12:53:23 PM PST by GregNH (One Pissed Off Natural Born Citizen OPONBC)
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All contributions are for the Current Quarter Expenses.
Git R Done!


19 posted on 11/20/2011 12:58:49 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: GregNH
The tape of the hearing is very powerful in the first 20 minutes I have listened to. Taitz is allowed to testify mostly without interruption in a continuous flow of well-developed analysis of the social security number issue concluding with Obama associate Bill Ayers admission that he fabricated 100’s of fake ID’s in the time-frame that he and Obama were together in the NYC area around Columbia.

Orly also added a fourth point as to why the April 27, 2011 time-frame was significant enough to compel Obama to produce even a forged BC. She tells the NH commission that it was just days before her oral argument before the 9th Circuit.

20 posted on 11/20/2011 3:53:24 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

The timing issue is connected, as you pointed out here, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2810132/posts?page=13#13


21 posted on 11/20/2011 4:00:27 PM PST by GregNH (One Pissed Off Natural Born Citizen OPONBC)
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To: Seizethecarp; SatinDoll; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; ...
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Article, also # 1 , # 13 , # 20.

Thanks, Seizethecarp.

22 posted on 11/20/2011 5:49:45 PM PST by LucyT
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To: sten

How about a “Made in America” with 0bastard’s photo on it, but a chamber pot?


23 posted on 11/20/2011 7:22:36 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: sten

Or toilet seat?


24 posted on 11/20/2011 7:22:58 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: hapnHal

Orly Taitz or anyone with (a) a foreign parent or (b) born on foreign soil Or both.


25 posted on 11/20/2011 7:24:17 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah

I was thinking.....

How bout a Coffee mug with a picture of Orly on one side and Obummer’s picture on the other side.
I think Obummers picture would look great with an egg cracked dripping from his head.

I could sell a ton of these MUGS!


26 posted on 11/20/2011 8:59:37 PM PST by hapnHal (hapnHal)
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To: Seizethecarp

obumpa


27 posted on 11/22/2011 7:36:17 PM PST by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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To: Seizethecarp
I prefer my TEA in a mug.

I was food shopping at Loblaws (Canadian grocer chain) on Monday and saw some heavy-duty, built-like-a-brick, glass coffee mugs, real beauties. Lo and behold, when I flipped one over....."Made in the USA" on the bottom. When was the last time you bought a mug that was made this side of the big pond? I put four of those babies in the cart. My TEA tastes much better now. There may be hope yet.

28 posted on 11/23/2011 12:53:59 PM PST by CanaGuy (If you find life intolerable now, how will you ever endure an eternity of torments? (Thom. à Kempis)
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To: Seizethecarp

Seizethecarp wrote: “Obama only claims to have ‘released’ his original 1961 BC, but he has not actually legally done so.”

The U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia wrote: “The President released his long-form birth certificate on April 27, 2011, and posted a copy on the White House Web site. The certificate confirms the President’s birth in Honolulu, Hawaii.” [Taitz v Ruemmler 11-cv-421-RCL (2011)]


29 posted on 11/24/2011 10:30:14 PM PST by BladeBryan
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To: BladeBryan
Obama has never expressly legally released HI DOH to release a certified copy of his LFBC directly to any party...especially in response to any subpoena for a legal proceeding at which the LFBC could by “proved up” under the FRE.

The U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia may have been content to accept the claims of Obama and HI DOH regarding the authenticity of the forged LFBC. But the Court did not actually have the LFBC before it in evidence.

Its ruling prevented a trial on the merits which could have subjected the original LFBC and any certified copies in the possession of the WH to forensic scrutiny.

The Obama Team may have gamed this out and (so far) correctly concluded that the full faith and credit would be given a fraudulent HI BC in federal court.

IIRC, all of Orly's claims were deemed to be based on mere suspicions and not sufficient for the DC Court to permit a trial on the merits.

Perhaps Joe Arpaio’s posse will turn up more conclusive evidence that Obama’s credentials are forged. We shall see.

30 posted on 11/24/2011 11:00:42 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

Seizethecarp wrote: “Obama has never expressly legally released HI DOH to release a certified copy of his LFBC directly to any party”

That’s false. The correspondence is on the record from both sides and easy to Google. President Obama requested that the HI DOH make an exception to policy in order to release two certified copies of his long-form birth certificate to his legal counsel. He then, through his staff, publicly posted the document on the White House web site.

The HI DOH confirms: “On April 27, 2011 President Barack Obama posted a certified copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth.” The HI DOH links the White House web site, so there’s no question that they are confirming the image we’ve seen to be “a certified copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth.”
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html

Seizethecarp wrote: “The U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia may have been content to accept the claims of Obama and HI DOH regarding the authenticity of the forged LFBC.”

The facts and the law played vastly differently in court than in your imagination, didn’t they?


31 posted on 11/25/2011 1:01:11 AM PST by BladeBryan
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To: BladeBryan; LucyT; butterdezillion; Danae; circumbendibus; Red Steel; Kenny Bunk
“President Obama requested that the HI DOH make an exception to policy in order to release two certified copies of his long-form birth certificate to his legal counsel.”

Utter crap! (to quote Black Adder)

Obama fabricated “an exception to policy” with the collusion of HI DOH. No such HI policy ever existed and is contradicted by HI statute, as proved by FReeper Danae (see pages 226-228 of Corsi’s “Where's the Birth Certificate”).

Obama’s pretend “release” of his own record TO HIMSELF waives NO privacy right and DOES NOT constitute a legal release of his HI LFBC to anyone of a document that could be submitted in any court and proved up in evidence under the FRE (and challenged...that is the key point Obama is evading).

This alleged “release” by Obama is a sham.

32 posted on 11/25/2011 9:09:18 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

“Obama fabricated ‘an exception to policy’ with the collusion of HI DOH. No such HI policy ever existed and is contradicted by HI statute, as proved by FReeper Danae (see pages 226-228 of Corsi’s “Where’s the Birth Certificate”).”

Ah, conspiracy. What more, the conspirators included both the Republican administration of Linda Lingle, and the Democratic administration of Neil Abercrombie. Did the reptilian humanoids replace all of them?


33 posted on 11/25/2011 10:41:03 AM PST by BladeBryan
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To: BladeBryan; Danae; butterdezillion
“Ah, conspiracy. What more, the conspirators included both the Republican administration of Linda Lingle, and the Democratic administration of Neil Abercrombie.”

I did not say that Abercrombie/Lingle colluded with Obama to fabricate the LFBC/SFBC. That would be conspiracy. It may have happened, but that is not what I said.

What I said was:

“Obama fabricated ‘an exception to policy’ with the collusion of HI DOH. No such HI policy ever existed and is contradicted by HI statute, as proved by FReeper Danae (see pages 226-228 of Corsi’s “Where’s the Birth Certificate”).”

There was NO exception to policy. It is the EXCEPTION that was fabricated. This was buttressed by the slight-of-hand of making a great show of having Obama’s personal attorney fly all the way to HI to personally pick up the alleged certified copy of the alleged original LFBC.

Was this done to avoid using the US mail to send a forged document...a serious felony? Danae received her LFBC in the mail from HI DOH without obtaining an “exception to policy.”

As it stands now the photocopies of the WH LFBC and the blackberry image of one reporter are only inadmissible hearsay evidence of a true and correct certified copy of a 1961 original LFBC are are not a waiver of Obama’s right to privacy. It is that waiver of privacy which constitutes a “real” legal release as opposed to Obama fake limited hang-out non-release release.

Obama’s WH attorney went out of his way to insist that the so-called alleged original certified copy of the 1961 BC would NOT be handled by Obama at the April 27, 2011 press conference...providing plausible deniability to Obama of ever having personally vouching for or personally “releasing” anything other than an alleged photocopy of an alleged certified copy of an alleged “original” back in the HI vault.

No conspiracy at all here. Just flagrant manipulation of public perception.

34 posted on 11/25/2011 11:41:41 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
Seizethecarp wrote:
[I had written:]
Ah, conspiracy. What more, the conspirators included both the Republican administration of Linda Lingle, and the Democratic administration of Neil Abercrombie.
I did not say that Abercrombie/Lingle colluded with Obama to fabricate the LFBC/SFBC. That would be conspiracy. It may have happened, but that is not what I said.

What I said was: “Obama fabricated ‘an exception to policy’ with the collusion of HI DOH.

Uh... so you deny claiming collusion as I had attributed to you, and also admit it? You might want to review what you and I wrote and look up the terms.
35 posted on 11/26/2011 1:40:43 AM PST by BladeBryan
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To: BladeBryan
Again...

What I said was: “Obama fabricated ‘an exception to policy’ with the collusion of HI DOH.

HI DOH colluded with Obama to flat out lie to the public claiming as recently as the weekend before the non-release “release” that it was impossible for even the President of the United States to obtain a certified copy of his own LFBC from HI DOH. This lie had already been exposed by Danae and it was exposed for Obama on April 27, 2011.

That lie and Obama’s collusion with HI DOH in the lie is NOT conspiracy theory (unprovable claim of conspiracy), it is now a proved fact. Both Obama and the HI DOH and Lingle knew all the time that Obama could have obtained his own LFBC at any time.

That lie was foisted on the public by HI DOH and Obama (colluding) for two years until Trump, Corsi and Danae forced Obama’s hand.

Then Obama and HI DOH obviously colluded to pretend that Obama had been given an exception. That is not conspiracy theory, it is a fact as the lie that Obama couldn't obtain his own LFBC is obvious...to all but Obama’s apologists.

36 posted on 11/26/2011 8:56:18 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

“What I said was: “Obama fabricated ‘an exception to policy’ with the collusion of HI DOH.”

Ah, conspiracy, just as I wrote. Any theories on how Obama got the Lingle administration to participate? Do the Illuminati actually control both of them?


37 posted on 11/26/2011 10:01:54 AM PST by BladeBryan
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To: Seizethecarp; LucyT; GregNH; Danae; WhizCodger; Blado
As I have proven by meticulous scientific research, Barack Hussein Obama is none other than the

Le Dauphin Perdu dela France

Mes amis, even if you deny the incontrovertible DNA research to which I have devoted the past 7 decades, have you not noticed the regal bearing, the unconcern with the woes of the peasants, the royal lifestyle, etc.?

For us even to ask the question of legitimacy is absurd. Instead thank Allah for sending us His new messenger.

38 posted on 11/26/2011 11:07:01 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure this eligibility stuff out?)
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To: BladeBryan
“Any theories on how Obama got the Lingle administration to participate?”

It is clear that there is no “conspiracy theory” (unprovable speculation) but rather a failed collusion in a lie. You may try to put words in my mouth that I am alleging “conspiracy” by Obama and the current Abercrombie Administration, but conspiracy is a legal term, unlike “conspiracy theory.”

Obama and Abercrombie's lawyers appear to me to have protected them from committing "legal conspiracy" in lying to the public. Politicians collude together to lie to the public all of the time without being charged with conspiracy.

Lingle is long gone and had nothing to do with the April 2011 collusion to fabricate an “exception to policy.” Lingle’s collusion with Obama was to jointly lie that there was a policy barring release of his own LFBC.

Abercrombie supported and continued that collusion up until April 27 when had allowed HI DOH officials to participate in the charade of having Okubo grant “a policy exception” just for Obama and only after receiving a request from Obama’s private attorney.

Were Obama, Lingle and Abercrombie telling the truth when they and their underlings claimed that Obama could not obtain his own LFBC from HI DoH?

No. Cased closed. They colluded in a lie.

Were Obama and Abercrombie and their underlings telling the truth when they claimed that an exception to HI policy had been created just for Obama AFTER the "release" of the LFBC?

No. Case closed. They colluded in a lie.

Again, I do not see indictable "conspiracy" here and there is no "conspiracy theory" because the collusion in a lie is a plain fact on the record.

39 posted on 11/26/2011 11:50:54 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp; BladeBryan; LucyT; butterdezillion; Danae; circumbendibus; Red Steel
Blade, you are, or have been confused.

What the WH released was a COPY of an ABSTRACT of data on allegedly file at the HI DOH. It was not a copy of a Birth Certificate, although the WH or someone took several stabs at making it look like one and would certainly like you to believe that it was.

The WH admittted that it was an "Abstract" in its earliest press release. Then, it just quietly let everyone assume that the document was a "Certified Copy of a Birth Certificate." It most certainly was not.

This is not rocket surgery. Ask a title company. When you close on real estate, both parties may agree that an "Abstract of Title" is sufficient. A wiser attorney might insist on a "Certified Copy of Title." The former may, or may not be complete. The latter must be. Or try handing an "Abstract" over to the DMV. They will straighten you out in a heartbeat, but I fear for your feelings.

This is no big deal. "A Certified Copy" is made on a copier, but then is notarized, or otherwise officially documented. This is what Joe Arpaio is asking for.

All a reasonable man can say is , "WTF is the problem? Copy the damned BC, notarize it, and fax it over." All of this "Sound and Fury" over a damned BC is to say the very least, damn suspicious. You know, maybe there ain't one. Why can't we look?

40 posted on 11/26/2011 12:18:07 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure this eligibility stuff out?)
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