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New Mexico May Fall To Drug Cartels
Friends of Ours ^ | 11/21/11 | Friends of Ours

Posted on 11/21/2011 5:55:32 AM PST by AtlasStalled

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To: AtlasStalled; humblegunner

You suck cuz you excerpted. Unfortunately, I am way too lazy to click the link, and that means I cannot read the rest of this article, and seeing as you wrote it, you could have changed my life. You have ruined everything. You may have killed many people, who commit suicide, because you excerpted your own material. You should be brought up on war crimes, you animal, you horrible horrible vermin, you excuse for a human being. You are the reason I favor the possession and use of nuclear weapons. If we use them and kill millions, perhaps one or two of them will be people who are as evil as you.


21 posted on 11/21/2011 6:49:10 AM PST by Lazamataz (Monkeys do not like getting slapped, contrary to popular belief.)
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To: Bigh4u2; AtlasStalled; humblegunner
Actually, if you go to the link, what was posted was the entire thing.

I take it all back. You, AtlasStalled, are the finest person on the planet. You should be given many Nobel Prizes, and a Pulitzer, and the Stanley Cup (even though you may not play hockey at all). You are why kittens are fuzzy and balloons are fun. Everyone brightens when you enter any room, and The Most Interesting Man In The World comes to you for advice.

22 posted on 11/21/2011 6:53:54 AM PST by Lazamataz (Monkeys do not like getting slapped, contrary to popular belief.)
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To: rfreedom4u
Obama did promise us change. Maybe he should start enforcing the border unlike all previous administrations didn’t do.

Don't hold your breath on that one. King Barry is too busy supplying weapons to the drug cartels and encouraging millions of undocumented Democrats to pour into our country.

23 posted on 11/21/2011 6:54:49 AM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: G Larry

Against who, the Mexicans or their own govt? It was the fed that created the environment for this to occur. They have no interest in rectifying the situation. I think before the Mexicans can be dealt w/ the fed needs to be put right.


24 posted on 11/21/2011 7:10:15 AM PST by 556x45
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To: humblegunner
So what is this? An Accident?

(Excerpt) Read more at bitterqueen.typepad.com ...

So, he checked the 'excerpt' box. It probably was an accident. Point is, you took a shot at the guy before even checking to see whether he'd posted an excerpt or not.

Whatever. Enjoy your fetish.

25 posted on 11/21/2011 7:10:40 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

“It probably was an accident.”

It wasn’t an accident. This pimp only posts his own material and always excerpts.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:atlasstalled/index?tab=articles

True story.


26 posted on 11/21/2011 7:13:12 AM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: AtlasStalled

Gangs and cartels rule through intimidation. In my town in Ca. gang members killed a black man just because he was black. A Latino woman came forward to testify. She received death threats and her brother was beaten bad enough to go to the hospital. I have been warning for many years the that this country does not have a clue concerning the violence heading north.


27 posted on 11/21/2011 7:24:38 AM PST by doc
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To: AtlasStalled

“The Mexican drug cartels have overpowered U.S. law enforcement”; proving once again the impotence and growing irrelevance of the U.S. Gov’t. The “center” is not holding and its past time for the States to take charge of their destinys.


28 posted on 11/21/2011 7:25:40 AM PST by Rich21IE
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To: traditional1
inner-city minorities drive the drug traffic.

Heroin Use In Suburbs On The Rise

29 posted on 11/21/2011 7:40:33 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies
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To: Molon Labbie
We make narcotics trafficking a life offense, no probation, parole, no appeals, no chit.

Traffickers now face a real threat of death - from competitors and twitchy customers - yet there is no shortage of traffickers nor of replacements for those who do fall.

Or we legalize it all and defund the cartels and street gangs that have effectively “occupied” the US, in numbers well over a million.

Now yer talkin'. That was the least bad solution to the problems caused by alcohol Prohibition, and it's the least bad solution to the analogous problems caused by today's prohibition of other drugs.

30 posted on 11/21/2011 7:45:14 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies
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To: Molon Labbie

All that would end up doing is increasing the price of drugs further.


31 posted on 11/21/2011 7:49:47 AM PST by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30
The are three outcomes of this border/drug war.

We continue in this morass and watch the Constitution and national sovereignty go up in flames.

We make narcotics trafficking a life offense, no probation, parole, no appeals, no chit. [...]

Or we legalize it all and defund the cartels and street gangs that have effectively “occupied” the US, in numbers well over a million.

All that would end up doing is increasing the price of drugs further.

Which would end up doing that? Basic economics says that lowering barriers to entry in a market, such as by legalizing, lowers prices (as the history of Prohibition bears out.)

32 posted on 11/21/2011 7:58:25 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies
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To: Jonty30
War in Libya

Let the drug cartels take US cities?

33 posted on 11/21/2011 7:58:32 AM PST by scooby321
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To: scooby321
War in Libya

Let the drug cartels take US cities?

? Who's proposing that we Let the drug cartels take US cities - and what does Libya have to do with it?

34 posted on 11/21/2011 8:01:05 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

I was talking about the instant executions and further barriers raised to try and prevent drugs from entering the marketplace.

The only way out of this is to legalize and regulate to ensure safety of drugs, just like we do alcohol.


35 posted on 11/21/2011 8:01:11 AM PST by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30
I was talking about the instant executions and further barriers raised to try and prevent drugs from entering the marketplace.

The only way out of this is to legalize and regulate to ensure safety of drugs, just like we do alcohol.

I agree 100%. The idea of creating a society free of alcohol or any other drug by force of law is the kind of big-government utopianism that liberals trade in; conservatives should know better.

36 posted on 11/21/2011 8:03:12 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

We haven’t tried either method yet. I am open to either one but prefer the second since it will mean alot less police raids, innocent people getting the lives disrupted and destroyed on screwed up raids based on faulty intel, and my profession getting a black eye doing things like killing dogs for being a little nervous at the tumult.

With making dope dealing a life WOPP offense, the first set captured won’t believe it. All those who come after will have to make the decision, do I sling this last button to this guy who could be a source, and thereby earn a guaranteed life sentence, or do I get out of the game?

Of course, liberals world wide will decry this as cruel and unusual punishment, but in my experience every dope dealer I worked to get indicted was a violent SOB to boot.

If we go the other way, we must control the market and distribute the narcotics at clinics free of charge with the understanding that the user must stay on the clinic grounds. This will inevitably lead to more overdoses, but all the associated narcotic crimes plummet.

The WOD is ripping up the Constitution.


37 posted on 11/21/2011 8:04:38 AM PST by Molon Labbie (Occupiers- The world is watching....and alternatively laughing and vomiting)
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To: Molon Labbie
We make narcotics trafficking a life offense, no probation, parole, no appeals, no chit.

Traffickers now face a real threat of death - from competitors and twitchy customers - yet there is no shortage of traffickers nor of replacements for those who do fall.

We haven’t tried either method yet.

True - but the fact I mentioned casts serious doubt on the effectiveness of life sentences. If the real risk of death isn't getting you out of the trade, why would the real risk of life without parole?

I am open to either one but prefer the second since it will mean alot less police raids, innocent people getting the lives disrupted and destroyed on screwed up raids based on faulty intel, and my profession getting a black eye doing things like killing dogs for being a little nervous at the tumult.

Ditto.

in my experience every dope dealer I worked to get indicted was a violent SOB to boot.

I don't doubt it. Rumrunners weren't nice people either.

If we go the other way, we must control the market and distribute the narcotics at clinics free of charge with the understanding that the user must stay on the clinic grounds.

I'm not sure that's the optimal approach. But it's miles better than the status quo, and makes sense at least for true "narcotics" (as opposed to, for instance, marijuana).

The WOD is ripping up the Constitution.

Yup. When even Iran and China have drug problems, we can't hope to have both a War On drugs and freedom.

38 posted on 11/21/2011 8:21:17 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies
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To: 556x45

If “I” am threatened, “I” am NOT waiting for the Fed’s or anyone else!


39 posted on 11/21/2011 8:35:00 AM PST by G Larry (Catholic Conservative Supporting Israel!)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

True - but the fact I mentioned casts serious doubt on the effectiveness of life sentences. If the real risk of death isn’t getting you out of the trade, why would the real risk of life without parole?

I don’t really expect many will get out, but they will never be able to re-enter society as is the case with the failed catch and release policy so prevalent in our justice, excuse my faux pas, legal system. And eliminating repeat offenders is good for our citizens and society.


40 posted on 11/21/2011 8:45:21 AM PST by Molon Labbie (Occupiers- The world is watching....and alternatively laughing and vomiting)
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