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Garland TX wants everybody's house keys
Examiner.com ^ | 11/15/2011 | Garry Reed

Posted on 11/22/2011 6:04:11 AM PST by servo1969

Garland wants to be your boss, your big brother, your nanny, your wet nurse and your house sitter all rolled into one.

Heather Fazio, Texas Libertarian Party Membership Coordinator, issued the following Action Alert about Garland's city council meeting scheduled for November 14:

Council is requested to consider the recommendation of the Building and Fire Code Board and the Plumbing and Mechanical Code Board to adopt the 2009 International Fire, Residential, Building, Energy Conservation, Plumbing, Mechanical, Property Maintenance and Fuel Gas Codes along with local amendments.

What this means, Fazio explains, is that the city wants to make it mandatory for everyone to place a key box, like the ones used by real estate agents, on all doors to local businesses and homes so the Fire Department, or whomever they appoint, can enter your home or business at any time.

If you have a gate, they want a copy of that key too. "If you refuse," Fazio says, "the City will be able to refuse services, i.e., let the fire burn!"

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: garland; govtabuse; house; housekeys; jackbootedthugs; jbt; keys; lping; rapeofliberty; texas; tyranny
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1 posted on 11/22/2011 6:04:13 AM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Sure...here is your copy of the back door....mind you that’s where I keep the Rattlesnakes.


2 posted on 11/22/2011 6:10:20 AM PST by DCBryan1 ("Forget the Lawyers! FIRST YOU MUST kill the journalists!" - Die Ritter, die sagen, "nee"!)
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To: servo1969

Unwarranted search. Somebody needs to talk to Heather.


3 posted on 11/22/2011 6:10:30 AM PST by OldEagle
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To: servo1969

What happened to breaking the doors and windows with axes?

Having access to keys is an invitation for burglaries. Are all employees with access codes etc., going to have security clearance? What about liability and insurance? What about sending emergency personnel to the wrong address?

Unintended consequences?


4 posted on 11/22/2011 6:11:11 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Gingrich-Cain 2012)
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To: servo1969

I had never heard of such a thing until recently. My daughter’s friend in New Jersey was recently “surprised” when she walked into her kitchen, and a fireman was standing there. There was no fire in the neighborhood.


5 posted on 11/22/2011 6:13:03 AM PST by sockmonkey (Freepers, please turn yourself in at attackwatch.com)
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To: servo1969

Camel’s nose in the tent, there.


6 posted on 11/22/2011 6:14:01 AM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: servo1969
I find it interesting that this supposed "warning" comes a day after the council meeting--much too late to actually do anything about it.
7 posted on 11/22/2011 6:14:16 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: sockmonkey

Whut? For pity’s sake, tell us the rest of the story!


8 posted on 11/22/2011 6:15:20 AM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: servo1969

I’m sorry, I shoot people who aren’t supposed to be in my house.

God bless the castle doctrine.


9 posted on 11/22/2011 6:16:52 AM PST by TSgt ("Romney" means "rino cult" in Kenyan)
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To: servo1969

Residents should send them thousands of keys...all unlabeled of course with no return address.


10 posted on 11/22/2011 6:17:29 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: servo1969

This is the kind of crap we get from the combination of public employee unions (worker safety) and the lawsuits for which cities get nailed when they screw up.


11 posted on 11/22/2011 6:18:18 AM PST by Carry_Okie (In the GOP, desperation is the mother of convention.)
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To: servo1969
This is great satire; I assume.

No one would be dumb enough to let any politician stay in office for more than 60 seconds if they tried this;
I think.

12 posted on 11/22/2011 6:20:00 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: sockmonkey

so are you gonna just leave us hanging or finish the story?


13 posted on 11/22/2011 6:20:53 AM PST by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; albertp; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; ...
What this means, Fazio explains, is that the city wants to make it mandatory for everyone to place a key box, like the ones used by real estate agents, on all doors to local businesses and homes so the Fire Department, or whomever they appoint, can enter your home or business at any time.

Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here.

14 posted on 11/22/2011 6:28:37 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: OldEagle

I believe Heather gets it; she’s the one who sent out the alert. A day late, granted, but she isn’t in favor of this 4th amendment violation. Oh, BTW, will Garland residents be getting keys to the firehouse and the police station in the event they they want to take a look around at 3:00 AM?


15 posted on 11/22/2011 6:31:09 AM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: servo1969
In the not so distant past, there was a very good use for tar, feathers, and rails. Perhaps that time has again arrived.


16 posted on 11/22/2011 6:32:19 AM PST by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: servo1969

Maybe if it were pleasantville it could work but no way in Garland... Why would they encourage crime?


17 posted on 11/22/2011 6:33:44 AM PST by LBG11
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To: servo1969

Not necessarily.

The Examiner is mostly a source of viruses.

I’d take anything read there with a grain or two of salt.


18 posted on 11/22/2011 6:38:24 AM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: servo1969

The Residential Knox-Box® is a high security key safe designed for single family homes that only local emergency responders can access. With a Residential KNOX-BOX installed, emergency responders can respond quickly, without forcing entry. They simply remove your entrance key stored inside, provide medical assistance and re-lock your door when they leave.
19 posted on 11/22/2011 6:38:24 AM PST by TaxPayer2000
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To: servo1969
"If you refuse," Fazio says, "the City will be able to refuse services, i.e., let the fire burn!"

So obviously if you're "opting out" by not bending over and grabbing your ankles on the key issue, they're going to stop charging you the portion of your taxes that fund fire protection, and refund that portion of THIS year's payment already made. Oh, they're not?? See, they think they can deny service to people who've already paid for it. I say sue them for fraud.

20 posted on 11/22/2011 6:42:09 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: servo1969
Just forget to put the key in the lockbox. Or put a different key in. If they only do use it for emergencies they will have to decide while at the site to allow a fire to burn/crime to occur/injured person bleed out because the key isn't working or just break down a door. If they try the key in a non-emergency situation they will have a very hard time explaining it.

I would also consider placing a tamper evident seal on the key box to see if anyone had accessed it.

21 posted on 11/22/2011 6:47:41 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Herman Cain: possibly the escapee most dangerous to the Democrats since Frederick Douglass.)
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To: 6SJ7
In the not so distant past, there was a very good use for tar, feathers, and rails. Perhaps that time has again arrived.

Yep. Split-rail fences are not all that common these days, though... not even in Texas. I'm sure those "landscape timbers" at Home Depot would do nicely in a pinch.

There's a great "tar and feathers" scene set at the port of Boston in the John Adams miniseries. John disapproved, but Sam just smiled.

22 posted on 11/22/2011 6:50:04 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: sockmonkey
My daughter’s friend in New Jersey was recently “surprised” when she walked into her kitchen, and a fireman was standing there.

This is the plot to just about every porn movie I've ever seen.

23 posted on 11/22/2011 6:50:22 AM PST by Lazamataz (Monkeys do not like getting slapped, contrary to popular belief.)
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To: servo1969

Is this section the video it references? The fire/building code. (International?)

http://garlandtx.swagit.com/currentwin.php?refid=11142011-85#

see item 2


List of links to video minutes:

http://garlandtx.swagit.com/currentwin.php?refid=11142011-85#


24 posted on 11/22/2011 6:50:47 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: servo1969
I'd bet dollars to doughnut holes that this, too, is part of UN Agenda 21.
25 posted on 11/22/2011 6:55:01 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The very idea of a community organizer is to stir up a mob for some political purpose." Ann Coulter)
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To: servo1969
Breaking doors and windows is much quicker, and I assume the police, fire dept. are REALLY there on some Emergency, OR something!!!!, and we all know that ALL public servants are honest, right?

Using these Combo Key safes is just STUPID, I use these types of Combo key holders on my rentals, they are not that easy, many times I will punch in the wrong code.

While they fumble with that key safe, they could have already been inside the house/business and saved someone.

Agenda21?

26 posted on 11/22/2011 6:55:01 AM PST by annieokie
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To: TaxPayer2000

I don’t think the issue here is the durability, ruggedness, or armor of the lockbox. They do look quite solid.

The PRINCIPLE is that now, anyone who has access to this lockbox, can on a whim, without a search warrant, without plausible reason - enter your home at will.

If the TSA is having problems with theft of customer luggage, what will allowing the entire police force, ambulance service, Utility and Firemen have complete and total access to your home; at any time, for any reason or no reason at all?


27 posted on 11/22/2011 6:57:35 AM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: humblegunner

Why do you always say that? It’s blatantly false. You seem to be the only one that gets a virus from the Examiner. I click on it all the time and none NEVER even get alerts from my anti-virus or spyware programs. If you have your computer protected you will not get a virus. If you don’t then don’t blame the Examiner, blame yourself.
I just clicked on the link 3 times and then clicked on some of the links on the webpage. I then checked my logs to see if any of my programs blocked any bad things from the website, they did not.


28 posted on 11/22/2011 6:57:43 AM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: Lazamataz

LMAO!


29 posted on 11/22/2011 6:58:16 AM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: sockmonkey

She’s lucky it wasn’t a TSA agent


30 posted on 11/22/2011 7:03:55 AM PST by farmguy
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To: mojitojoe

Hgunner only gets his news from what the MSM wants to tell him.

If it’s raining outside, he doesn’t believe it until someone on the Weather Channel tells him it’s Global Warming.


31 posted on 11/22/2011 7:04:52 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: KarlInOhio
Just forget to put the key in the lockbox. Or put a different key in. If they only do use it for emergencies they will have to decide while at the site to allow a fire to burn/crime to occur/injured person bleed out because the key isn't working or just break down a door. If they try the key in a non-emergency situation they will have a very hard time explaining it.

Good thinking, except it doesn't factor in incrementalism.

Once the custom gets established, the fire chief will be doing inspections and checking to make sure your key is the correct one. If not, you will be notified, threatened with forfeiture of service, threatened with a fine of some dollars PER DAY, and subject to reinspection. This will all be upheld by courts because after all, if your house burns, your neighbor's house is imperiled.

Much better to nip it in the bud.

32 posted on 11/22/2011 7:05:10 AM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: humblegunner

Examiner: grain of salt
MSM: Salt Shaker
Internet: uh...it’s the internet.

Why are you so afraid of citizen journalism?


33 posted on 11/22/2011 7:06:19 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine
Why are you so afraid of citizen journalism?

How long have you been equating dislike with fear?

I think Lima beans suck. Does that mean I fear them?

34 posted on 11/22/2011 7:09:15 AM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: humblegunner

If you dislike Lima beans, that’s fine.

If you insist that they never be placed anywhere on the table where you can see them, that’s fear.


35 posted on 11/22/2011 7:11:59 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: servo1969

For later.


36 posted on 11/22/2011 7:16:42 AM PST by Envisioning ( Call me a racist................, one more time......................)
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To: servo1969

This can’t be true....really?


37 posted on 11/22/2011 7:19:56 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: 6SJ7
In the not so distant past, there was a very good use for tar, feathers, and rails. Perhaps that time has again arrived.

Our Founding Fathers would have already been hanging them by now. Hell, they would have been finished by now!

38 posted on 11/22/2011 7:25:36 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: TaxPayer2000

Okay... Which city official is a licensed Knox Box dealer?


39 posted on 11/22/2011 7:28:08 AM PST by Califreak (It was the best of times, it was the worst of times)
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To: Charles Martel; 6SJ7

C’mon guys, this is the twenty first century. Epoxy glue and packing peanuts. Instead of riding them out of town on a rail, stuff them in the trunk of a Volt.


40 posted on 11/22/2011 7:29:00 AM PST by magslinger (Who cares if they are"electable" if they are going to govern like Democrats? -noprogs)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I knew I was saving all those mystery keys for a reason.


41 posted on 11/22/2011 7:29:12 AM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: servantboy777

Please tell me this is a hoax?

Recently my wife and I were visiting next door when an exterior door opened setting off our alarm. S.O.showed up, noticed the open door, entered the home fearing some kind of problem, searched about for a medical or incapacitated resident finding none they spotted us next door. The deputy was more than polite explaining exactly why he entered our residence and of course I had no problem with his doing the job he did. Somehow that does not compute with this ridicules potential regulation in Garland where it seems they can enter for any reason day or night.


42 posted on 11/22/2011 7:30:53 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: sockmonkey

I think I saw that in a porno once.


43 posted on 11/22/2011 7:33:27 AM PST by GnL
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To: Califreak
Which city official is a licensed Knox Box dealer?

Not sure, but they have a white paper written by the Garland, TX Fire Chief on the front page of their website.

44 posted on 11/22/2011 7:34:42 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: servo1969

I used to be a cop in an upper middle class suburb of Cincinnati. The citizens voluntarily gave a copy of their house keys to the P.D. whicher were kept under lock and key. Lots of elderly residents. Whenever someone had not heard from “Mom” or “Dad” or “Grandma” or “Grandpa” in over a week they’d call the P.D. and we’d grab the key and go check up on them.

Usually, all it ook was opening the door, getting a whiff of “that stench” and closing the door and calling the Coronor’s office.

But, once in awhile, it saved a life. I responded to an elderly woman who had her artificial hip come dislodged from her pelvis while she was int eh shower. The neighbors her her screams of pain and I was able to respopnd with the key and render aid.


45 posted on 11/22/2011 7:54:13 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Mittt Romney - he lacks the courage of his absence of convictions .)
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To: Lazamataz

I have it on VHS...it stars Racquel Darrian...she’s hot...


46 posted on 11/22/2011 8:09:36 AM PST by CaptSkip
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To: Mouton
I had a similar experience. My dad had just arrived home from the hospital, I was staying with him.

That night, not thinking (also a lil under from anesthetic), he sets the alarm and the motion detectors inside.

Well, I get up, walk to the Lou...{{{{Wee wong wee wong wee wong}}}} Scared the living you know what outta me!

Next thing I know, a knock on the door, then another, then louder.....

So, all discombobulated, no shirt, I open the door to the officer. To my surprise, it was this really really cute, blonde headed, kinda petite female officer.

CRAP!!!

In a firm but mousy lil voice, she asks if everything was alright.

CRAP!!!

So much for the, yea everythings fine (explanation...)

Hey, how bout you and I....

Just kidding, just kidding.....well not really.

47 posted on 11/22/2011 8:10:37 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: 5thGenTexan

Hey, I can’t help it if spiders like spinning their webs in those boxes. Make sure you tell the doctor which one bit you — the one with the red hourglass or the one with the brown fiddle.


48 posted on 11/22/2011 8:13:28 AM PST by Retro Llama
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To: servo1969

When I was living up in Ann Arbor in my youth I rented an apartment with my friend for a couple of years. His father came over for dinner one night and he saw the keys to my gun cabinet hanging in the lock. He told me that a lock really doesn’t do much to protect your guns if you leave the keys in it. I just looked at him and said “True, but I don’t have clean up the broken glass this way.” He thought about it for a second and then agreed completely with me.

My home has two sliding glass door-walls on the downstairs level. If someone was going to want in my home a big rock and a windup is all they need to gain instant access. Everything I really can’t replace I keep locked in my safe, anything else is just an inconvenience so long as my pets or family isn’t hurt. Now if I’m home and it happened, well, that’s a much different story.


49 posted on 11/22/2011 8:18:59 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: TaxPayer2000
With a Residential KNOX-BOX installed, emergency responders can respond quickly, without forcing entry. They simply remove your entrance key stored inside, provide medical assistance and re-lock your door when they leave.

Yes, and in a preemptory role in advance of an actual or perceived state of civil unrest they will also use the key to enter your home and remove every self defense object that you have stored in it...or am I being paranoid?

50 posted on 11/22/2011 8:26:14 AM PST by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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