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Herman Cain Reverses, Signs Pro-Life Pledge on Abortion
LifeNews.com ^ | November 22, 2011 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 11/22/2011 8:52:23 AM PST by julieee

Herman Cain Reverses, Signs Pro-Life Pledge on Abortion

Washington, DC -- Herman Cain has reversed position and decided to sign a pro-life pledge on abortion a prominent pro-life group has had other Republican presidential hopefuls sign that Cain initially declined to attach his name to months ago.

http://www.lifenews.com/2011/11/22/herman-cain-reverses-signs-pro-life-pledge-on-abortion/

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1 posted on 11/22/2011 8:52:30 AM PST by julieee
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To: julieee

Better late than never. I like Herman Cain much better than Newt or Perry, but it was silly to argue that he can’t sign because it requires him to “advance” pro-life legislation when this guy is promising to make his “999” tax plan a reality.


2 posted on 11/22/2011 8:56:19 AM PST by BillyBoy (Rick Perry, the governor with a heart... for illegal aliens.)
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To: julieee

Shameful political stunt.


3 posted on 11/22/2011 8:59:52 AM PST by marty60
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To: marty60

Gives Mittens cover for his flip-flops?


4 posted on 11/22/2011 9:01:59 AM PST by ken5050 (Support Admin Mods: Doing the tough, hard, dirty jobs that Americans won't do...)
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To: julieee

Is he still supportive of openly gay people in his staff still, or has he decided against gay lifestyles too? NOT that there’s anything wrong with it...

Just trying to keep up...


6 posted on 11/22/2011 9:02:56 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: julieee

Cain has lived an incredible pro life existence, and I don’t think he needed to sign this pledge. These stupid pledges - ALL OF THEM - are simply a way to make the organization that developed the pledge more important.

He’s put more than a million of his OWN money into pro life causes, more than any of the self important bureaucrats with this organization has done. So in a way, I”m sorry he felt the need to play their game. He’s lived it for crying out loud!


7 posted on 11/22/2011 9:03:18 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: marty60
Shameful political stunt.

Kind of like Rick Perry claiming he will "secure" the border in one year, even though he is a complete Open-Borders fraud?

Oh wait, that was just Rick Perry LYING his Butt off!

My mistake.
8 posted on 11/22/2011 9:03:21 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: BoingBoing

Ya think?


9 posted on 11/22/2011 9:03:31 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: BoingBoing

BoingBoing...you seem to be up on all the latest Cain trivia...is he still supportive of openly gay people in his staff still, (NOT that there’s anything WRONG with it) or has he decided against gays, now, too? ...

Just trying to keep up...


10 posted on 11/22/2011 9:05:05 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: marty60

That’s his choice.


11 posted on 11/22/2011 9:06:13 AM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: BoingBoing

What gave you the first clue.

I have never even given him a first look.

Inexperience and unqualified.
IMO.

Apparently people are starting to figure that out.


12 posted on 11/22/2011 9:10:04 AM PST by marty60
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To: C. Edmund Wright
So in a way, I”m sorry he felt the need to play their game. He’s lived it for crying out loud!

That's how I feel. Unnecessary pandering that will hurt, not help, him.

13 posted on 11/22/2011 9:10:06 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: marty60
Another fine example of Cain talking out both sides of his mouth. In Herman's world expediency trumps principle. That is until hypocrisy catches up with you.
14 posted on 11/22/2011 9:10:10 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: SoConPubbie

PERRY DOES on PRO-LIFE.

WHAT has Cain Actually DONE to stop the murder of the unborn?


15 posted on 11/22/2011 9:11:46 AM PST by marty60
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To: marty60
WHAT has Cain Actually DONE to stop the murder of the unborn?

Cain is unapoletically Pro-Life, as is Perry.

On Illegal Immigration, on the other hand, Perry completely falls down, where Cain stands tall.
16 posted on 11/22/2011 9:18:10 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Prokopton

>> That’s how I feel. Unnecessary pandering that will hurt, not help, him. >>

You are right, especially since he’s made a point of saying “I DO NOT PANDER.” Of course, he’s probably hired some “consultants” now and I bet they advised him to do this. He should have ignored the advice.


17 posted on 11/22/2011 9:20:13 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: marty60

“Shameful political stunt.”

That is exactly what this is.

This is just another do-over in a long string of do-overs for Cain.


18 posted on 11/22/2011 9:20:28 AM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/West 2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.”)
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To: marty60

>> WHAT has Cain Actually DONE to stop the murder of the unborn? >>

Spent a million bucks of his own money for a pro life outreach.

What have YOU done?


19 posted on 11/22/2011 9:22:17 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: SoConPubbie

Rick Perry. He’s for securing the border, exceedingly generous “opt outs” of forced vaccinations and...what else? I forget.

< /dripping sarcasm >


20 posted on 11/22/2011 9:30:58 AM PST by FourtySeven (When does the race card run out of credit?)
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To: julieee

Herman Cain has always been 100% pro-life. As a very successful CEO, he knows the devil is in the details, and he is not dictator material. So he has now signed the pledge only to prove he is, indeed, 100% pro-life. It wasn’t wafflling, nor did it indicate any change of mind.


21 posted on 11/22/2011 9:36:45 AM PST by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: Reagan Man

Help me out, I want to vote for the pure candidate who is not a hypocrite in any part of his life. What is his name?

Pray for America


23 posted on 11/22/2011 9:39:15 AM PST by bray (Take the Cain Train off the Plantation)
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To: MNJohnnie; P-Marlowe; wmfights

Well, it looks like we were right and Herman was wrong about “advancing legislation”.

Was this done for Political purposes?


24 posted on 11/22/2011 9:43:22 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Oh I don’t know. Blocked Abortion clinics, with other pro-life supporters.
I like more action than words. Perry has taken action.


25 posted on 11/22/2011 9:59:28 AM PST by marty60
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To: marty60; ken5050; jessduntno

See Post 21, Perryderriers


26 posted on 11/22/2011 10:02:45 AM PST by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: SoConPubbie

Yeh...Cain suggested electocuting Mexicans. And he’s running for President??


27 posted on 11/22/2011 10:03:21 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: SoConPubbie

“Lupe Trevino, the elected Democratic sheriff of urban Hidalgo County, said the Ranger Recon program was “an obvious political ploy” as Perry wades into a bruising Republican primary for re-election against U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison.

“We don’t need the Texas Rangers to come to the border to quell any imaginary disturbance,” said Trevino, vice chairman of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security’s Southwest Border Task Force.

Texas Rangers Assistant Chief L.C. Wilson, who is overseeing the Ranger Recon teams, said he planned to discuss the plan with some border sheriffs this week at an out-of-state conference.

But Wilson said Perry’s announcement that the Ranger Recons would be used to “address the increased burglaries of rural homes, ranches and hunting camps in remote areas along the Texas-Mexico border” wasn’t the whole story.

“What we’re really worried about” is the spillover of the drug cartel violence in northern Mexico, he said. “That’s what the governor doesn’t want coming over here.”

Wilson declined to release any information regarding the placement or number of what he characterized as “outdoor SWAT teams,” but said they were trained and equipped for “nighttime domination.”

“We want (smugglers) to be fearful that anytime they come over they could be running into a team,” he said.”
SD UNION 2009

Seems Perry and the Rangers are right.
Yesterday in Houston area. A grain truck loaded with drugs was headed north. A CI was driving being followed by agents. Next thing you know a car with Zeta Cartel thugs drove up beside the truck and shot the CI. The agents following opened fire along with Sheriffs deputies.

One Deputy was shot in the firefight.

You can Thank Janet Napolitano and Obama for the DRUGS headed to a school near you.

At least with Perry as President, we might actually slow this crap down.
It is obvious that there are some in Texas that are making money off of this nightmare and Perry as President would be the last thing they would want.


28 posted on 11/22/2011 10:05:36 AM PST by marty60
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To: SoConPubbie
Cain is unapoletically Pro-Life

....unless the question is about his granddaughter.

29 posted on 11/22/2011 10:06:24 AM PST by pgkdan ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: Gator113

Why don’t you Perrbots just tend to business and stop posting your stupid remarks s on company time? What are you, a bunch of bureaucrats?


30 posted on 11/22/2011 10:10:28 AM PST by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: Paperdoll

Very funny.

What detail devils is he talking about?

But he signed it anyway. Wow, What a guy.


31 posted on 11/22/2011 10:10:42 AM PST by marty60
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To: marty60

Yawn.....


32 posted on 11/22/2011 10:11:56 AM PST by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: SoConPubbie
My mistake...

or lying your butt off.

33 posted on 11/22/2011 10:16:29 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Paperdoll; marty60; ken5050

Has he changed position on gays? he used to be all for openly gay staffs, too. Not that there’s anything wrong with it...


34 posted on 11/22/2011 10:17:58 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: SoConPubbie

Cain promises to build a fence, but he’s never built a fence, and he’s never actually done ANYTHING to stop illegals from coming into this country.

“build the fence” is trivial platitudes for a guy who has lived his life not doing anything to stop our open borders.

Perry is rated good on border security, and has a real plan to stop illegals. He has actually DONE the job of stopping illegals coming into Texas. He won’t waste money on a useless fence like some other candidates who don’t have any idea how to secure a border.

As to this, I don’t know if Cain is committing a shameful political stunt now, or if he was committing a shameful political stunt before when he wouldn’t sign. My guess is that his handlers have finally explained to him that one of the jobs of President is to get congress to pass laws he wants.

Now, his handlers need to tell him that the President doesn’t sign constitutional amendments.

Then they could do the much harder job of explaining to him that the President is the representative of our country to the world, and actually has to understand the basics of foreign policy. That is, if his handlers have figured that out yet.


35 posted on 11/22/2011 10:19:06 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SoConPubbie
Actually the truth is Perry has spent 400 million more tax dollars on securing the US/Mexico border than any person on stage.

That's the truth.

36 posted on 11/22/2011 10:19:33 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: marty60

My point is, you thought it insulting that someone might assume you’ve done nothing simply because I don’t happen to know about it- and you’re right.

Thus, you were being not only insulting but a hypocrit too by assume Cain had done nothing simply because you had not heard about it.

So I trapped you, and you fell in hook line and sinker.


37 posted on 11/22/2011 10:20:30 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: Reagan Man

If his “standing up” to the Union Leader and to the pro-life-pledge organization are any indication, I wonder why anybody thinks he’ll stand up for any of his OTHER heartfelt positions when it becomes clear the politically expedient thing is different?


38 posted on 11/22/2011 10:20:40 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SoConPubbie
So Cain calling abortion a social choice and agreeing it shouldn't be part of the political discussion is unapologetic pro-life?

What has Herman Cain done for border security? He backtracks on almost every controversial thing he says and the apologizes for it.

Cain has actually taken Perry's border security plan and has been touting it! and poorly I might add.

39 posted on 11/22/2011 10:23:18 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Cain didn’t apologize for being pro-life, he simply completely messed up what it meant for several months, confusing people into thinking he was only personally pro-life but wouldn’t push his views through government action.

On the other hand, Cain hasn’t actually DONE ANYTHING to stop abortion, at least not that has been reported anywhere. There’s no indication he picketed abortion clinics, or lobbied for pro-life restrictions, or refused to offer abortion in the health insurance he gave to his Godfather’s employees.

He’s never voted on ANY pro-life legislation, or enacted anything.

Rick Perry, on the other hand, has. Defunded planned parenthood. Require sonograms before abortions. Support adoption measures. Pro-life license plate.

He’s been a force in the pro-life movement. He’s spoken at pro-life events. He opposed embryonic stem cell research, partial birth abortion.

Same thing on border security. Cain has done nothing to secure the border. Perry has been pro-active; building fencing where it would help, deploying texas rangers, apprehending illegals, putting them in jail and pushing for the feds to deport them. Perry has a strong border security record.

He is also a proven fiscal conservative, and won’t waste money on a useless fence just because saying he will is “politically expedient”. Nobody is going to build a fence across the Rio Grande — Perry is just the only candidate who is willing to tell you what should and shouldn’t be done, while the others just say “build the fence” because it’s easy to say.


40 posted on 11/22/2011 10:26:33 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Paperdoll
13 closed Planned Parenthood offices in Texas because of Perry defunding it, and growing.

Herman Cain has no record, only words so it I guess I'm just gonna have to take his word for it, except it changes regularly.

Wasn't it awesome when he shouted about the electric fence and the apologized the next day and said it was a joke.

It was cool when he had the smoking guy Mark Blockhead in his ad but the apologized for that too.

Wasn't 9-9-9 cool until he changed it to 9-0-9 for special zones when someone complained about the poor getting the shaft.

I guess I just have to have faith because he has no record.

41 posted on 11/22/2011 10:28:11 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: julieee

I am most definitely pro-life, but I reject the whole notion of pressuring candidates to sign pledges about this area or about any other.


42 posted on 11/22/2011 10:31:47 AM PST by Bigg Red (Maryland girl on the Cain Train)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

First, Perry and Cain are 2 of the 3 candidates I like the most.

BUT: you and Normy are being ridiculous in your pro Perry anti Cain argument in this regard: you criticize Cain for a number of things, including not physically joining clinic blockades and not specifically enacting legistlation — therefore - you doubt his pro life credentials.

That would be like someone else doubting Perry’s credentials on the free market because he’s personally never hired a single person in the private sector.

It is simply foolish to expect everyones’ life experience to be the same. I don’t doubt Perry’s committment to the free market. You shouldn’t doubt Cain’s pro life stance.


43 posted on 11/22/2011 10:32:49 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: pgkdan
or even being part of the political discussion as per his Fox and Friends interview.

Do you remember the "Caveman Lawyer" skits from Saturday Night Live back in the 90's? Phil Hartman was the caveman lawyer and he won because he would always say "Well I'm just a caveman and I don't understand all your advanced ways" but that was the joke, he did understand it was the fact he was a caveman that gave him cover.

Cain uses this too only it's "I'm just a pizza guy so I don't understand all your strange Washington/Media ways so I might have screwed up", but he does understand because he was a lobbyist for 3 years, one of Dole/Kemp top advisers a losing Senatorial candidate and a losing Presidential candidate and he sits on several corporate boards and he had his own political talk radio show.

44 posted on 11/22/2011 10:34:54 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

MONEY. ANYONE can throw a few bucks at a cause.

It was YOU that got caught with your arrogance.

What legislation has Cain supported with that big voice of his. I never listened to him, maybe you can list them for us.


45 posted on 11/22/2011 10:37:14 AM PST by marty60
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Well said!


46 posted on 11/22/2011 10:39:22 AM PST by Bigg Red (Maryland girl on the Cain Train)
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47 posted on 11/22/2011 10:39:54 AM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: julieee

Herman Cain has already proven he is pro life.


48 posted on 11/22/2011 10:40:10 AM PST by pallis
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To: C. Edmund Wright
No sir. I actually think Cain probably is pro-life. The problem is his complete botching of his answers for something that should be so simple.

I don't expect Cain to do anything to stop abortion unless he wanted to donate to a cause or something but here's the problem.

Cain voted for Clinton (according to Cain's communication VP). Now Clinton has never been pro-life. His wife voted for someone in the Dem primary and whoever that was wasn't pro-life.

If it is part of your core, you would vote that way at least. Then he botches 3 interviews and even after making a clear statement of his own beliefs as being 100% pro-life personally, he goes on Fox and Friends as agrees that abortion should not be part of the political discussion. It makes no sense.

49 posted on 11/22/2011 10:41:33 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: marty60

You keep on with your 8% boy. That’s what makes America great.


50 posted on 11/22/2011 10:42:56 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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