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Rossi opens 10 KW expression of interest list and sets 10 kW price
Journal of Nuclear Physics ^ | Nov 22 2011 | Andrea Rossi

Posted on 11/22/2011 7:39:39 PM PST by Kevmo

Andrea Rossi November 21st, 2011 at 11:25 PM Dear Felipe From Chile: You are right, we are organizing this. BY THE WAY: WE COLLECT FROM NOW THE NAMES OF ALL THE PERSONS OR ENITITES INTERESTED TO BUY AN E-CAT OF 10 KW. IF WE WILL REACH 10,000 NAMES IN THE LIST, THE PERSONS IN THE WAITING LIST WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO CONFIRM OR NOT THEIR ORDER AT 400 EURO/THERMAL KW. DO NOT SEND MONEY, WE WILL ACCEPT THE ORDERS ONLY IF WE WILL REACH 10,000 NAMES IN THE WAITING LIST, COMBINING OUR LIST WITH THE WAITING LIST ORGANIZED BY OUR BROTHERS OF HYDROFUSION . WARM REGARDS, ANDREA ROSSI, LEONARDO CORP. (PRESIDENT)

Felipe from Chile November 21st, 2011 at 9:26 PM Mr Rossi, Having followed you for many months I decided to ask you a minor question, my apologies if it has been answered before. Since I am not a business man, I think one of the way to support your endevour is to become a qualified e-cat technician. In this context, Does your company have (or will have in the near future) training program for setup and maintenance of e-cat technology?. I think you will require qualified staff around the world pretty soon.

Sincerely,

Felipe Ochoa


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: cmns; coldfusion; ecat; lenr
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To: bigbob

30% is obviously doubtful. 1/3 of that is probably a better approach. 10% would make it 3cents/kW or something like that.


21 posted on 11/22/2011 9:17:46 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: bigbob
I must be missing something - today’s thermoelectric devices (Seebeck generators or thermopiles) run 6 to 10% efficiency - that new nanotech material might get it to 15% - so where is the 30% number from?

I was thinking the same thing. Where did the 30% come from?
22 posted on 11/22/2011 9:24:22 PM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Moonman62
Awesome, put me down for 10 of them. Too funny. Weren't people saying this couldn't be a scam because he wasn't asking for money?

His prototype to production model with certification or UL listing, service techs, changing out the reactants every six months, self destruct mechanism and anything else to support this thing all in less than a year? Seriously, this actually sounds legit? A device with a self destruct system has been certified in the U.S, really?

In the immortal words of Sammy Hagar and V-H off of OU812, Sucker in a 3 Piece:

You wanna sucker...

Sucker in a 3 piece...

And he found them.

23 posted on 11/22/2011 9:28:29 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Moonman62

hey moon..

a maybe you did not read the memo but it specifically says no deposit will be required.

Lurking’

PS I’m signed in for one and accepted


24 posted on 11/22/2011 9:32:23 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: allmost

The thought did not escape me. This subject has been that way for some time.


25 posted on 11/22/2011 9:40:49 PM PST by Dawggie
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To: Dawggie

The thought did not escape me either.


26 posted on 11/22/2011 9:42:46 PM PST by allmost
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To: Ronin
I am just wondering what the electric power and oil industries will do to suppress it. I just can’t believe they are going to lay down and die without a fight.

If it's real, they will jump on the bandwagon. Think about what is happening to the wireline telephone business with the advent of cellular technology. They only have to put in one (big) wire supplying a tower to service dozens of customers, rather than running little wires to each customer. The maintenance savings will pay for the investment in no time at all.

The power and oil companies are now paying huge costs in maintenance on their delivery systems. If they can save that $$ because they can locate the power station close to the point of need, it will pay for a lot of other stuff, or make them much more profitable in other areas.

27 posted on 11/22/2011 9:47:14 PM PST by Stegall Tx (Living off your tax dollars can be kinda fun, but not terribly profitable.)
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To: allmost; bigbob

“That is $0.54 / Watt of heat. Assuming the 20 year life Rossi claimed in the interview, the simple LCOE is so small as to make the energy almost free at $0.003 / kWh. At 30% efficiency heat kW to Ac kW with 3 Ac kW output, the electricity price rises to $0.01 / kWh...”

Figure in the gold nuggets in the steam behind your house and the fortune your great uncle is going to leave you and the cost is practically nothing/kW/hr./liter/cal. per slice over the entire backyard Tuesday.

Understand?


28 posted on 11/22/2011 9:48:54 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: allmost; Dawggie; bigbob

allmost, Dawggie, bigbob

Hydrogen/Nickel cold fusion probable mechanism look here: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=338&cpage

Since you probably won’t understand it - you’ll likely dismiss it as magic.

Doesn’t mean its not happening - it just means you don’t understand it.

Lurking’


29 posted on 11/22/2011 9:51:31 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: count-your-change

hey count same thing

Hydrogen/Nickel cold fusion probable mechanism look here: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=338&cpage

Since you probably won’t understand it - you’ll likely dismiss it as magic.

Doesn’t mean its not happening - it just means you don’t understand it.

Lurking’


30 posted on 11/22/2011 9:53:15 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: count-your-change

Show me where your heat is coming from and I can shut up for ever. Skimming scam scum.


31 posted on 11/22/2011 9:55:20 PM PST by allmost
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To: LurkingSince'98
a maybe you did not read the memo but it specifically says no deposit will be required.

Where does it specifically say that?

32 posted on 11/22/2011 9:57:00 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

good grief man did you read it - it says:

DO NOT SEND MONEY

what more do you want?


33 posted on 11/22/2011 10:10:08 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: LurkingSince'98

Never said it does not happen; I actually think it does. All I want to see from Rossi is peer reviewed results. Perhaps the papers on on their way, but I have not seen them yet and they have been a long time in coming.

Please do not presume we do not understand; you may be surprised.


34 posted on 11/22/2011 10:12:41 PM PST by Dawggie
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To: allmost
the money quote: In conclusion, it should be underlined that the copper nucleus thermal perturbation, as a result of its mechanical backlash(heat), is transferred to its encompassing nickel lattice and propagated, by in phase phonons (G. Preparata), through the entire nano-crystal. This could explain why in cold fusion the released energy is mainly in the form of heat and the produced (low) γ radiation can be easily shielded. Prof. Ch. E. Stremmenos
35 posted on 11/22/2011 10:14:25 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: Dawggie

you won’t see them at least anything that will rise to your level of required proof.

you see it is a trade secret and he is not going to ever tell you or his per reviewers exactly how it works - he has made that point over and over and you guys just don’t or won’t get it.

Why should he?

he doesn’t need to impress you - he just needs to sell units.

lurking’


36 posted on 11/22/2011 10:18:54 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: allmost
The thing inside the main unit of the device when hooked up to the machine gets hot by a proprietary substance and an unknown process over a period of time if heated first by a heatalator. Theoretically.
37 posted on 11/22/2011 10:20:16 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Dawggie

also Dawggie,

“All I want to see from Rossi is peer reviewed results.”

you must be an academic - because academics say let me see your peer reviewed studies.

In business we say where do I sign the NDA and when can I see it deliver hot water.


38 posted on 11/22/2011 10:22:42 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: count-your-change
Wow. You just made me a spectatorial something or other. Couldn't go with it ace. I like reality. Watching this ..thing... populate FR pi$$es me off.
39 posted on 11/22/2011 10:25:42 PM PST by allmost
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To: LurkingSince'98

Academic? Please do not insult me, I work for a living.


40 posted on 11/22/2011 10:39:20 PM PST by Dawggie
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