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Who won the CNN National Security Debate?
Wepolls ^ | 11/22/2011 | Overkill-GOP

Posted on 11/22/2011 7:54:39 PM PST by gop_overkill

I think this was the best debate so far this year. I really like how Newt stood up to defend his stance on immigration. Who do you think won?

POLL: Who won the 11/22/2011 CNN Republican National Security Debate? Vote: Click Here

Without a doubt it was Newt, our former speaker and next president.


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To: gop_overkill

NEWT SHOT HIMSELF IN THE HEAD!

“Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Tuesday that he wouldn’t “expel” those who have come illegally but have made lives in the U.S. He says that the GOP cannot call itself a party for family when it separates parents from their children born in the U.S.”

Keep illegal alien families together; deport all of them.

Children born in the U.S. to parents here illegally are the nationality of their parents. They can, when over the age of 18, apply for U.S. citizenship claiming birth here; but whether they get to claim that right depends on their parent’s homeland and its laws.

Mexico claims that wherever Mexicans go, Mexico exists. Therefore if Mexicans are in the U.S. illegally, they are not here under the jurisdication of the U.S., but purely as Mexicans.

Illegal aliens and their family members should be deported together - period.

Newt hurt himself very badly tonight. I will never vote for him on this very important national security issue.


21 posted on 11/22/2011 8:06:41 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: Jane Long
But, the clear loser was Bamster!

Yes he was! Barry is probably sitting in a corner babbling something about "one term, one term".

22 posted on 11/22/2011 8:06:58 PM PST by South40
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To: gop_overkill

Newt won, because he staked out a position he will need very much in the campaign against Obama.

Now Obama can’t demonize him (and all Republicans) as favoring pushing Abuela’s wheelchair across the border and dumping her in a country she hasn’t seen in 26 years.

Diehard conservatives know she has been breaking our laws all those years, but Obama’s opponent in the general election is going to need votes from a wider range than diehard conservatives.

The others, except for Paul, did well enough. Paul needs to go away.


23 posted on 11/22/2011 8:07:10 PM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: gop_overkill

You mean where Newt stood up for his position of sanctioning illegals??? Keep them in the country without giving them citizenship? Are you SERIOUS? You liked that?

Please.


24 posted on 11/22/2011 8:07:49 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: mnehring

My hugest problems with illegals ...other than they are illegal.

1. They come for the benefits - and we give them - and then we go broke. NO candidate EVER seems to directly address the BILLIONS states are paying to subsidize these parasites. I must admit Romney does come close in addressing the “magnet” that draws them. However, I’m not sure I could trust him to do what we need to do ...as in cut out ALL welfare benefits.

2. They have no intention of becoming Americans. They are here to reap the benefits and continue living culturally as they always have. NO candidate EVEr addresses the loyalties of any of these illegal immigrants. You could give them amnesty all day long ...but what kind of Americans will they be? Do they really care about this country? Do they even understand this country beyond what they can GET from it.


25 posted on 11/22/2011 8:09:37 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: ken21
Cain has ceased to be relevent.

As the talking heads said, when asked about Syrian flyover, Cain talked about the US economy and that is a sign of not being informed.

He's done.

26 posted on 11/22/2011 8:09:50 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: bgill

I’m with you bgill. We should just kill all illegals. If they didn’t break our laws, they’d be alive. Newt’s a pussy for not thinking American.


27 posted on 11/22/2011 8:10:14 PM PST by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: gop_overkill
I really like how Newt stood up to defend his stance on immigration.

I didn't.

28 posted on 11/22/2011 8:10:18 PM PST by umgud
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To: South40

They are certainly dedicated.


29 posted on 11/22/2011 8:11:03 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: gop_overkill

I didn’t see the debate on purpose but if I could have gotten away with it and Newt did push his illegal alien amnesty, I would have walked on stage and kicked him in the ass. I would have then said I wanted to beat the crap out of him but wanted to be more humane so would stop at the ass kicking.

I then would have said that I really wanted to be humane to all the Americans whose parents, Great Grand parents etc give their souls and their lives to build a new country where rule of law protcts even the lowliest ciitzen from illegal aliens violating our laws. murdering our children and old folks.Stealing everythhing not nailed down and tuning our nation in to a third would hell hole. Ruled by Muzzie murderers, rapists, and worse.


30 posted on 11/22/2011 8:12:53 PM PST by yarddog
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To: South40
>>Newt blew it with his pro-ILLEGAL alien defense of part of the DREAM Act.<<

That’s utter nonsense. Just watch his poll numbers continue to climb.

31 posted on 11/22/2011 8:14:44 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: gop_overkill
Newt won, “amnesty” included.
32 posted on 11/22/2011 8:15:04 PM PST by jpf (phillies)
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To: sanjuanbob

/s


33 posted on 11/22/2011 8:15:21 PM PST by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: cricket

Here is Newt’s logic in a nutshell...

There is a bank robber who robbed banks years ago. He never robbed more than $5000 in any one robbery. He goes to church every Sunday. He has kids and grand kids. You can’t just throw this dude in jail now, and break up his family.

Now substitute Bank robber with illegal immigrant. He has been here for over 25 years. Goes to church regularly, has kids and grand kids. We can’t just deport him and break up his family. Get it cricket?


34 posted on 11/22/2011 8:15:21 PM PST by federal__reserve (What matters in 2012 is jobs, jobs, jobs! Jobs kill unemployment, foreclosures & deficits)
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To: federal__reserve

In most states there’s a statute of limitations on bank robbery.


35 posted on 11/22/2011 8:19:14 PM PST by jpf (phillies)
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To: LibsRJerks

Exactly! Turn off the tap. Withdraw the benefits, and most illegals will go away. The fed gov should let the states deal with them. No jobs, no housing, no stay.

Those who are now too old to work, and still illegally here, would remain a problem, temporarily. But no Republican candidate is going to get any traction in the campaign by advocating deportation — which the Dems would promptly frame as a humanitarian crisis. Or Holocaust. Or Trail of Tears. Whatever.

We want them gone, but we do not want a PR disaster that gets Obama another four years in the White House.


36 posted on 11/22/2011 8:20:18 PM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: gop_overkill

How long can you live here and not be a citizen? Do you pay taxes and can you draw SS and medicare?


37 posted on 11/22/2011 8:23:26 PM PST by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: bigdirty
Yeah the subhuman paulbots undemocratically ruin every online poll.

You've just signed onto FR this month and you know this?

38 posted on 11/22/2011 8:25:05 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: gop_overkill
BLITZ WON!
39 posted on 11/22/2011 8:25:18 PM PST by bigbob
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To: gop_overkill

This is a debate about IDEAS! This is not some sporting event where the question is “Who do you think won?”

Gloria Borger won the most disgusting award.


40 posted on 11/22/2011 8:35:08 PM PST by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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