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Mark Levin Show: Death Panels Will Be A Reality With Obamacare [Youtube video]
Youtube ^ | November 22, 2011 | Mark Levin Show via Youtube

Posted on 11/23/2011 8:21:54 PM PST by No One Special

A neurosurgeon, vetted by Levin's staff, calls Mark and talks about what he knows about Obamacare Death Panels. From 11/22/11


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Patients over 70 will likely only be provided "comfort care" for such maladies as brain bleeds.
1 posted on 11/23/2011 8:21:58 PM PST by No One Special
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To: No One Special

I heard this live yesterday. It was so profoundly disturbing it defies description.

Seniors are about to become the new unborn.


2 posted on 11/23/2011 8:28:57 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: No One Special

Well than Mark Levin, IMMEDIATELY endorse Michele Bachmann and we will see Obamacare gone as her first duty. She is so passionate about getting rid of it that I believe she would do it. It is not at all just talk. People want to nominate the most ridiculous people who would not get rid of Obamacare (they say they will but I doubt it). Michele is the only one that wants it erased from our reality.


3 posted on 11/23/2011 8:35:07 PM PST by napscoordinator (Anybody but Romney, Newt, Perry, Huntsman, Paul)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

I heard that neurosurgeon call in also and I can’t tell you what I felt like hearing us called “units” and knowing at 70yrs. old if one of us has bleeding in the brain, only “comfort care” can be given.

It was chilling and I know there is more to come. It astounds me that there is anyone willing to go along with this nonsense.


4 posted on 11/23/2011 8:49:21 PM PST by Reb Raider
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

I heard it as well..it was chilling...and gives a new significance to your Freeper “handle”.


5 posted on 11/23/2011 8:55:44 PM PST by berdie
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To: No One Special

I heard the call last night. It was beyond scarey.
And how the left just crapped all over Sarah for calling it what it truely is : Death Panels.

I should have written down all this guy said but I was too dumbfounded to hear him, a brain doc , actually say this.


6 posted on 11/23/2011 9:16:53 PM PST by simplesimon (You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own "facts"...........)
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To: No One Special

This needs to go viral. If the Repubs had half a brain (which I doubt) they could ride this all the way to victory next year.


7 posted on 11/23/2011 9:30:46 PM PST by Marathoner ("Government is not reason. Government is not eloquence. It is force." George Washington)
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To: No One Special

Heard the conversation on Tuesdays 8-11 pm rebroadcast on WJR Detroit am760 and then recarried on 9-12pm WLS am890 Chicago. checked out his website
http://www.marklevinshow.com/
And the audio clip does not seem to be there


8 posted on 11/23/2011 9:58:47 PM PST by mosesdapoet (Moses ..A nick name II received as a kid for warning another -It's a sin to tell a lie")
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To: No One Special

cross thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2811322/posts?page=54


9 posted on 11/23/2011 10:03:50 PM PST by bitt ( Obama is so unpopular now that the Kenyans say he was definitely born in Hawaii)
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To: mosesdapoet

Here’s a downoad link for the whole show:
http://podfuse-dl.andomedia.com/800185/podfuse-origin.andomedia.com/citadel_origin/pods/marklevin/Levin11222011.mp3
I think the doctor comes on at about the 40 minute mark.


10 posted on 11/23/2011 10:10:02 PM PST by No One Special
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To: No One Special

Remember, Democrats are the party that thinks old people have a duty to die.


11 posted on 11/23/2011 10:13:37 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: No One Special

In a Kindly Manner
by Gary Bachlund

In a kindly manner,
You will be put to work,
And in a kindly manner,
You’ll not be allowed to shirk.
In a kindly manner,
We’ll set you to your task,
And in a kindly manner,
You’ll not be allowed to ask.
You will not be kindly allowed to be
Poor or idle, but like it or not,

If you balk at our good work
You’ll be taken out and shot.
In a kindly manner.

“I also made it quite clear that Socialism means equality of income or nothing, and that under Socialism you would not be allowed to be poor. You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught, and employed whether you like it or not. If it were discovered that you had not character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possibly be executed in a kindly manner; but whilst you were permitted to live you would have to live well.” George Bernard Shaw, Intelligent Woman’s Guide to Socialism and Capitalism, p. 470.

http://www.bachlund.org/Collected_Poetry_IV.htm#In_a_Kindly_Manner


12 posted on 11/23/2011 10:21:41 PM PST by No One Special
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To: No One Special

wrote:
Here’s a downoad link for the whole show:

Thanks. but I’m on line and can’t afford a satellite feed, a download takes forever. During the show Levin said he was going to put the audio up and that I can get.


13 posted on 11/24/2011 12:23:57 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Moses ..A nick name II received as a kid for warning another -It's a sin to tell a lie")
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To: No One Special; 1010RD; 2ndDivisionVet; aberaussie; Absolutely Nobama; ak267; alancarp; ...
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Transcript...

Caller: I heard you talking earlier about the government not knowing how to make pencils, and then you talked about brain surgeons, and I happen to be a brain surgeon, so I found your topic very interesting. And actually, I just returned from washington DC, where we were reading over what the Obama Health Care Plan would be for advanced neurosurgery for patients over 70, which we all found quite disturbing.
...
Because as our population gets older the majority of our patients ARE getting over 70, which requires stroke therapy and aneurysm therapy, and basically what the document stated, was if you're over 70 and you come in to an emergency room and you're on government supported care, that you get 'comfort care'.

Levin: wait an minute... what? what document? what's the source for this?

Caller: This is the Obama's new health care plan for advanced neuro-surgical care.

Levin: and who issued this? HHS?

Caller: Yes. And basically, they don't call them patients, they call them 'units' and instead of... they call it 'ethics panels' or 'ethics committees' which get together and meet, and decide where the money would go for hospitals, and basically, for patients over 70 years, that advanced neuro-surgical care was not generally indicated.

Levin: So its generally going to be denied?

Caller: Yes, absolutely.

Levin: Ok, let me ask you this... is this public...? GO ahead...

Caller: If someone comes in at 70 years of age with a bleed in their brain, I can promise you I'm not going to get a bunch of administrators together on an ethics panel at two in the morning to decide that I'm ok to do surgery.

Levin: Let me ask you this... Is this published somewhere for the general public? In other words, where a pedistrian like me can get ahold of it?

Caller: Not yet, not yet.

Levin: So this was discussed just with your community, of neurosurgeons?

Caller: Yes, exactly. The AANS and CNS, the American Association of NeuroSurgeons and the Congress of NeuroSurgeons, because everybody knows cuts are coming in medicine, in reimbursement, and we're the most expensive in all the fields of medicine, and we're the smallest field.
But at two or three or four in the morning, we're the ones that are in the operating room, and we will have to wait for an ethics panel to convene, and they're not made up of physicians, they're made of administrators, to decide whether a patient should receive our care.

Levin: So Sarah Palin was right? We ARE going to have these death panels, aren't we?

Caller: Oh, Absolutely! I'm German by heritage, and I've read The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, and basically, they dont call them patients, they call them units, and if you're a unit above a certain age, you get comfort care, instead of advanced neurosurgical intervention.

Levin: Now this... You went to a seminar in washington D.C?

Caller: Yes, A few of my former partners, two of them have gone to work for... One runs the VA system, and one is head of the Congress of NeuroSurgeons out of DC.

Levin: And this information is based, you're certain, on representations and information provided by HHS and other government officials?

Caller: Yep.

Levin: And when will the rest of us become aware of it? After the election?

Caller: Ah, Probably. There are so many things that the government keeps under control, that are used in surgery called HUD devices, or Humanitarian Use Devices, that we're allowed to use now, because they haven't undergone full FDA approval, and they're just used in surgery, because people know its the right thing to do.
But the government can step in at any time, like they did two months ago with a device, and said, this device hasn't met what we want, and there's no exact criteria, and then they can take it away from us.

Levin: And the people who are telling you what to do, they don't even know how to make a pencil, do they?

Caller: Exactly, that's what I'm saying. And we always joke around, "it's not brain surgery", but you know, I did nine years after medical school, I've been in training ten years, and now I have people who don't know a THING about what I'm doing, and telling me when I can and cannot operate.

Levin: All right, please keep in contact, will you? I have to go, but this has been a very very cruical call!

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14 posted on 11/24/2011 2:36:24 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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To: Future Useless Eater

Thank you so much for this.

I ************ am *********** passing the transcript along.
We all knew it was hideous but this is PROOF of how hideous it really truely is.


15 posted on 11/24/2011 3:25:56 AM PST by simplesimon (You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own "facts"...........)
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To: Future Useless Eater; 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks for that info and the transcript.

My husband sees a neurologist every three months, and occasionally a neurosurgeon. This is part of our TriCare Prime coverage. If they implement this rationing program, it will cost him his life.


16 posted on 11/24/2011 3:41:26 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: No One Special

bump


17 posted on 11/24/2011 4:39:26 AM PST by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: No One Special

18 posted on 11/24/2011 4:43:42 AM PST by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: Future Useless Eater
I've been in health care finance for over twenty years, and I can confidently say that what is being discussed here is NOT whether these surgeons will be permitted to do the surgery.

What is being discussed is whether the surgeons and the hospital will be permitted to send Medicare (i.e. taxpayers) the bill.

It's important to recognize that these are two different things.

19 posted on 11/24/2011 5:09:58 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Gingrich/Cain 2012)
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To: TBP
Do old people have an unlimited right to as much younger peoples' money as it takes in order to keep them alive?

My personal solution to this is a "Medicare lien". It's not difficult to compute (A) how much a person has paid into Medicare and (B) how much Medicare has expended on that person's care.

No limits, no rationing, but if (B) exceeds (A) the government gets a claim on the estate for the overage.

20 posted on 11/24/2011 5:14:06 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Gingrich/Cain 2012)
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To: Notary Sojac

My husband is a retired vet. He pays for additional health coverage. He had a stroke a few years ago. He requires ongoing medical care, and will for the rest of his life. Do you honestly think his coverage should be denied when (if) he turns 70? He should die because some bureaucrat evaluates the cost/benefit analysis does not generally indicate the continuation of life functions for a 70 year old unit?


21 posted on 11/24/2011 5:41:10 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Future Useless Eater

Thank you:)


22 posted on 11/24/2011 5:53:22 AM PST by jenk (The country needs Sarah Palin and the Constitution.)
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To: Future Useless Eater

This is so UN-American and insidiously EVIL, it is hard to really comprehend that it is taking place here in the USA!!!!!!!!!!!!


23 posted on 11/24/2011 5:57:26 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Notary Sojac

There may be a difference here....but it encourages the same END result (pun intended).


24 posted on 11/24/2011 6:02:14 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: BykrBayb

Well, I don’t think health care at the taxpayers expense is a “right”. Do you?


25 posted on 11/24/2011 6:14:28 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Gingrich/Cain 2012)
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To: BykrBayb

Well, I don’t think health care at the taxpayers expense is a “right”. Do you?


26 posted on 11/24/2011 6:17:04 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Gingrich/Cain 2012)
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To: Future Useless Eater
Brain Surgeon Reveals Disturbing Future For Those Over 70 Under Obamacare
27 posted on 11/24/2011 6:20:25 AM PST by jenk (The country needs Sarah Palin and the Constitution.)
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To: Notary Sojac

He earned his health care coverage, you ungrateful pig.


28 posted on 11/24/2011 6:27:33 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: SumProVita

Yes, it is incomprehensible. And I’m fuming over a FReeper who has the nerve to tell me that my husband’s 21 years of service in the Infantry don’t entitle him to the health care coverage he earned and is continuing to pay for, and that when he turns 70 he should lose his coverage and be forced to die.


29 posted on 11/24/2011 6:29:51 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

I completely understand. We have Medicare/Tri-Care too.

We ALL need to work hard for the upcoming election.

...And we earnestly need to PRAY for this nation.


30 posted on 11/24/2011 6:32:33 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita

Thanks for your kind words. Have a happy Thanksgiving.


31 posted on 11/24/2011 6:35:08 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Future Useless Eater

Thank you for posting the transcript. I’m so disgusted, appalled, etc. by the fact that HHS would even entertain this idea. Obviously, this would never apply to them.

Evil, pure evil.


32 posted on 11/24/2011 6:35:54 AM PST by azishot
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To: Notary Sojac

Military personnel have earned their healthcare....and they pay into the system. Thus, it IS their right. It is not their fault that the government has grossly mismanaged Medicare.


33 posted on 11/24/2011 6:37:47 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: BykrBayb
I did time in uniform too. Not in combat, but if they'd ordered me to get shot at I would have.

I don't believe that anyone owes me anything in return.

34 posted on 11/24/2011 6:40:30 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Gingrich/Cain 2012)
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To: BykrBayb

Thanks... you also have a very blessed Thanksgiving! I have to add that I DO believe our wonderful Lord will sustain us. This country is just BEGINNING to enter a VERY difficult time. There is more to come ....but we also have MUCH to be thankful for.

People are finally waking up to what Obama and the radical Democrats have wrought. Perhaps this is a wake up call that we have needed for a long time. I personally know many people who have begun to focus more on what God wants for their lives.....and this is good.

;-)


35 posted on 11/24/2011 6:43:25 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Notary Sojac

Did you refuse all pay and benefits for yourself, or is that just your policy for others?


36 posted on 11/24/2011 6:43:56 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: SumProVita
If you are saying that veterans have a right to lifetime healthcare and civilians do not, we might be able to get that to work, budgetwise. Kind of a Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers kind of thing.
37 posted on 11/24/2011 6:44:58 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Gingrich/Cain 2012)
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To: BykrBayb
See post 37. Let's have separate discussions about the VA system as opposed to Medicare. You'll note that all my posts upthread mentioned Medicare specifically.

Most Medicare recipients have not "earned" anything, in fact the total payments made by Medicare will exceed the cost of what they paid into the system by 3-4 times.

38 posted on 11/24/2011 6:48:14 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Gingrich/Cain 2012)
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To: Notary Sojac

Pound sand.


39 posted on 11/24/2011 6:50:08 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

Oh, well said, ma’am!!! You have summed up your argument to a nicety. My hat’s off!!


40 posted on 11/24/2011 6:52:32 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Gingrich/Cain 2012)
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To: Future Useless Eater
The Final Solution has come to America. God Damn them all.

I was very active when GWB tried to take on Social Security reform. I remember when it died a sudden death and came to the realization that both sides of the aisle figured out that the problem had a simple "solution" on the demand side. Now comes this. Sucks to be right.

41 posted on 11/24/2011 6:58:17 AM PST by NonValueAdded (At 4 AM, it is a test; at 2 PM, it is a demonstration)
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To: Future Useless Eater

Thanks for the transcript from those of us who are broad band impaired.


42 posted on 11/24/2011 7:01:32 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: No One Special; onyx

Sarah Palin was right. Onyx...I believe the ‘Palin ping list’ would be very interested in this...


43 posted on 11/24/2011 7:05:43 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: No One Special

It passed by ONE vote.


44 posted on 11/24/2011 7:11:37 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Notary Sojac; BykrBayb

When it is in the form of a promise to retired military and disabled veterans, you’re damn right I do!


45 posted on 11/24/2011 7:15:31 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

I could have told you that when obamacare was being debated. Not only the seniors but the infirm nd afflicted will be killed. I suppose that only sliver lining to an otherwise black cloud is that eventually work down to where the parasites and traitors that inflicted obama on us will eventually be killed. Check the histories of the old Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Communist China,and Cuba to see how those that inflicted the Communists and Nazis on the people fared after said “leaders” consolated their power. It will be no different here.


46 posted on 11/24/2011 7:19:03 AM PST by sport
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To: Future Useless Eater; wagglebee; little jeremiah; trisham; DJ MacWoW; Cronos

Read this transcript.

Any further proof needed that we have Satan running the White house?


47 posted on 11/24/2011 7:22:29 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Notary Sojac

Nothing to worry about then is there.

I would say that I believed you, but I would be lying.


48 posted on 11/24/2011 7:23:23 AM PST by sport
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To: Notary Sojac; wagglebee; little jeremiah; trisham; DJ MacWoW; Cronos; 50mm; darkwing104

IBTZ deathbot.


49 posted on 11/24/2011 7:23:59 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Notary Sojac; BykrBayb
Well, I don’t think health care at the taxpayers expense is a “right”. Do you?

Process this....

If that was part of the agreement the government made when he enlisted, then YES, it is his right.

That aside, I fully support healthcare for vets. Those brave men laid their lives on the line to protect our freedom. It's a small price to pay to show our gratitude, which you obviously don't have any of.

50 posted on 11/24/2011 7:27:21 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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