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Sven Kullander On Rossi And eCat
Independent ECat News ^ | November 23, 2011 | admin

Posted on 11/24/2011 10:44:11 AM PST by Kevmo

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To: Lx

http://gigaom.com/cleantech/latest-doe-loan-guarantee-a123-battery-project-for-grid-storage/ HERE’S A SCAM ~ from just this last summer. These loan guarantees were going straight into the pockets of the scammers. The box and racks they show for mounting those batteries in modular units are exactly the same standard box and racks Rossi uses ~ even the battery plate systems (iron hydride with lithium somewhere in the annode side I believe) are the same except I don’t think Rossi uses the battery packs as batteries ~ just as a quick and dirty way to get an awful lot of hot electrons formerly part of hydrogen atoms. These packs work with proton holes (sucking down negative charge) like nobody’s business for quick release as needed on a power net. except for the plumbing to “burn” NI Rossi’s equipment, and its primary technology, is a commonly available 1 MW battery pack.


21 posted on 11/24/2011 6:33:37 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; dinodino
Don't forget Tachyons! Geordi of Star Trek TNG always uses Tachyons when he has some B.S. to spew to Picard.

That's what your posts always remind me of, spewing a bunch of scienc-y sounding words to describe something?

Are you sure the mob's not involved here? I pinged dinodino so he knows we're on to him...

22 posted on 11/24/2011 9:17:48 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Johnny B.
March 9, 1994: Rossi's Petrol Dragon company forced to shut down over toxic waste issues. According to the story, there was no sign of Rossi actually converting wast into fuel, and one of his customers had claimed to be purchasing the fuel from Rossi well over a year after Rossi's plant had been shut down. [Italian] [English]

Johnny B.'s original link:

waste oil from? useless and toxic!

This one is important.

A member of the Rossi Amen Chorus was saying he was selling 20 tons of fuel oil a day when it looks like he produced exactly nothing.

23 posted on 11/24/2011 9:24:13 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Johnny B.

Impressive research.


24 posted on 11/24/2011 9:30:01 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Kevmo
He also said that Rossi is definitely not a fraud and that his friend Focardi and Levi is absolutely not frauds. They are his friends and he trust them.

Which raises the question of whether Sven Kullander is a fraud.

25 posted on 11/24/2011 9:33:12 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Lx
A member of the Rossi Amen Chorus was saying he was selling 20 tons of fuel oil a day when it looks like he produced exactly nothing.
Right. I was very surprised just how damning this information was.

Remember, Rossi also got tax money from us for producing non-functioning "ThermoElectric power generators" for the Army. [LINK]

In fact, it seems he has a significant history of making money from bogus inventions, along with his significant history of racketeering.

26 posted on 11/25/2011 2:55:48 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Lx
Yeah, tachyons ~ I think I provided you with a reference to the "faster than light" neutrino experiment just reported on.

Tachyons always travel FTL ~ I don't think we know that as yet regarding the particular type of neutrino ~ maybe you do.

Still, it's close isn't it.

Does "neutrino" sound "scienc-y" to you?

27 posted on 11/25/2011 3:42:43 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Johnny B.

http://www.netl.doe.gov/business/solicitations/2001pdf/41428/ATTENDEE.PDF your link led to another Leonardo link, and you end up with Robert Gentile. This is at a Clean Coal Power Initiative in January 2002. http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=18065#axzz1eiUfJdIg shows that George Bush nominated him to be an Assistant Secretary of Energy in 1990. http://www.lti-global.com/ (which takes us back into the heart of LTI) shows their boys at a CO2 sequestration seminar sponsored by the Obama DOE ~ and this little doozy has in it a reference to an EPA initiative that is currently shutting down dozens of coal fired power plants in the Midwest (and is it’s own scandal). So, if I understand you guys correctly, LTI is part of a grand conspiracy by George Bush and Barack Obama to rip everybody off ~~~~~~~~~~ I’m all ears ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ‘splain?!


28 posted on 11/25/2011 3:56:57 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; Lx

muawiyah, tachyons don’t exist. They are from the show Star Trek. In the real world, they are merely a hypothetical particle and have never been detected in experiments.


29 posted on 11/25/2011 4:02:16 AM PST by dinodino
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To: Johnny B.
Too many Google.com translations there for reliability but the name "Guardia di Finanza", or FINANCE POLICE, popped up.

They have some powers IRS has ~ plus they wear uniforms and carry automatic firearms.

Because of the proclivity of people to lie on their tax declarations Italy has created this body to COLLECT TAXES one way or the other.

They get to lie in court ~ when the objective is to make someone pay. THeir favorite trick is to spy on people and then create arguments concerning where they got their money.

This is Italy, not a normal country!

30 posted on 11/25/2011 4:03:39 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Lx; muawiyah

Yeah youse guys bettah be careful, especially with all those hot electrons and proton donut holes.


31 posted on 11/25/2011 4:03:42 AM PST by dinodino
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To: dinodino; Lx
You'd better watch out too ~ looks like Rossi roped in George Bush and Barack Obama (according to your sources).

Well, what can we say about the intention of people who use Guardia di Finanza filings to justify their beliefs.

None of that means Rossi is honest, but it does demonstrate you have some real problems you should tend to quickly lest you be snatched away or something.

32 posted on 11/25/2011 4:06:21 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
looks like Rossi roped in George Bush and Barack Obama (according to your sources)

I never posted anything like that. Please cite.
33 posted on 11/25/2011 4:13:32 AM PST by dinodino
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To: dinodino
muawiyah, tachyons don’t exist.

Oh yes they do. I have one.
34 posted on 11/25/2011 4:16:28 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: ZX12R

Oh yeah? What color is it?


35 posted on 11/25/2011 4:17:54 AM PST by dinodino
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To: dinodino
Oh yeah? What color is it?

Mine came in a light shade of kevmo, with highlighted streaks of muawiyah. The color is called "e-cat fool's gold".
36 posted on 11/25/2011 4:24:16 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: dinodino
Follow LINK at post 23 provided by your persona as "Johnny B" to your persona as "LX" ~ it's all part of your intrafmilial discussion of why you believe Rossi is a fraud.

Don't you read each other's stuff?

37 posted on 11/25/2011 4:28:42 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

No, I didn’t read it because Petroldragon was a scam and Rossi was convicted for it—what else do I need to know? FYI, I just read the link in Post 23 and I don’t see the names Bush or Obama anywhere. It would be a neat trick if Obama was involved, considering the dates of Petroldragon.

Also, what’s with the “persona” comments?


38 posted on 11/25/2011 4:33:47 AM PST by dinodino
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To: dinodino
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/19/science/space/neutrino-finding-is-confirmed-in-second-experiment-opera-scientists-say.html but in the real world there are scientists using the world's most expensive machine who have come up with evidence they say shows something traveling faster than light.

BTW, Star Trek was released in 1966. Earlier in that decade a number of scientists had begun discussing tachyons as theoretical particles. Later on they began showing up as possible constructs inside newer theories that attempt to combine quantum physics and relativity.

This is all publicly available information so you should already be on top of it.

Regarding further "futuristic" entertainment shows string theory didn't arrive, even in part, until the end of the 1960s (the Bosonic String Theory).

So, here's your continuum ~ "tachyons, Star Trek, string theory) ~ in that order. Although you might argue that Star Trek somehow influenced string theory, you would be wrong to argue that Star Trek influenced tachyon theory ~ unless you want to jump into the time travel business.

39 posted on 11/25/2011 4:40:13 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: dinodino
Also, what’s with the “persona” comments?
muawiyah is really good at hijacking threads to insert his own wacky theories. For example, he thinks that, somehow, Rossi's "invention" proves that the North Koreans have some sort of super bomb with the power of a nuclear bomb, but no radiation or fallout.

It's fun to read his rants, but debating him is a waste of time.

40 posted on 11/25/2011 4:40:29 AM PST by Johnny B.
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