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Black Friday Violence Reported at Stores Across the Country as Sales Soar
Fox News / The Associated Press ^ | November 25, 2011

Posted on 11/25/2011 5:36:23 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Despite a lagging economy and high unemployment rates, retailers are reporting this year is one of the best for sales, with 152 million shoppers expected to hit stores this Black Friday.

Early reports suggest that bigger crowds were found at the nation's malls and stores as retailers like Macy’s and Target opened their doors at Midnight.

It what seems to be a burgeoning Black Friday tradition, reports of violence erupted throughout the country....

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: blackfriday; christmas; economy; riots; scratch; shopping; simian; underarm
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To: CodeToad

Probably so. I am not old enough for that.....at least I was not interested in politics at that time.


21 posted on 11/25/2011 6:45:35 PM PST by napscoordinator (Anybody but Romney, Newt, Perry, Huntsman, Paul. Perry and Obama are 100 percent the same!!!!!)
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To: Track9

And beating each other senseless for sale items is just about the furthest thing I can imagine from a sign of “recovery”. It’s a clear symptom of the early stages of societal breakdown.


22 posted on 11/25/2011 6:46:32 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Comparative Advantage

152 million shoppers, half a dozen incidents, really driving to work monday is probably more dangerous. But we’re gonna do it anyway.


23 posted on 11/25/2011 6:48:54 PM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: CodeToad

These days black friday is really over by 9 or 10 in the morning. The door busters have turned it from an all day marathon to a morning sprint. Which is nice if it turns out you actually need to go to a store for something useful like soap.


24 posted on 11/25/2011 6:51:30 PM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Yeah, but the spinning of cliqued reasoning I guess is easy to fall for when you’re not actually paying attention to what is. I’m not a doomsayer, but it’s obvious we’re in a whole new economic environment and behavior is going to change accordingly.


25 posted on 11/25/2011 6:55:15 PM PST by Track9
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To: surroundedbyblue
Someone posted somewhere earlier they heard sales were way down.<<

That may be true....But I can damn well guarantee after watching todays market action...the consensus...Market commentators..(not the real market) will find it.. “better then expected!”

26 posted on 11/25/2011 6:57:26 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wife went out for some fabric and there wasn’t too much traffic after 10:00 am. Probably all the super sales were gone by then. My guess is that sales (despite the spin) will be down this year. All the people I have seen shopping have been buying necessities and bargains only. True test is how many stores fold after Christmas.


27 posted on 11/25/2011 6:59:43 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

‘with 152 million shoppers expected’——

‘expected’ by who? That’s HALF of the U.S. population.

HOGWASH.

Only the Unions and Fed employee’s are off today, the rest are children or are unemployed....


28 posted on 11/25/2011 7:08:47 PM PST by Freddd (NoPA ngineers.)
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To: napscoordinator

-——Symptom of a Capitalistic society. I am thrilled that it appears people are spending again. That is good for the economy and we need it to improve.-——

Black friday is but one day snapshot..... The operative word you used is “appears”

One day does not make a season .....I think many retailers had their one big day and the rest of the year will be cautious at best

I know I am doing all my shopping on line this year.....


29 posted on 11/25/2011 7:11:20 PM PST by Popman (Obama is God's curse upon the land....)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

“We won’t know anything until early next week, but I’m guessing the numbers that actually matter are going to be dismal. Although I’m sure that the AP will find a way to spin a happy face on them.”

Bearishly agreeing with you.


30 posted on 11/25/2011 7:30:53 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Madoff screwed the rich. Bernanke screwed us all.)
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To: Freddd

When you take away the nearly 30% of Americans under the age of 14, you’re left with roughly 240 million potential “shoppers”. So according to this, roughly 65% of all Americans over the age of 14 were out shopping today.

The only way that number is even remotely possible is if “shoppers” are defined as anyone participating in retail commerce. Buy a gallon of milk, you’re a shopper. Pack of smokes, you’re a shopper. Fill up your tank, you’re a shopper too. By that standard, there are probably between 130 and 140 million shoppers on every business day of the year.


31 posted on 11/25/2011 7:35:15 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Comparative Advantage
Ditto FRiend! I spent the better part of the day stripping copper wire, cutting copper pipe joints, and stripping aluminum windows. My haul from a years work of rehabbing various projects.The wife use to complain about my stash until I showed her the check! She participates in the collection and cleaning nowadays.I love my wife!
32 posted on 11/25/2011 7:39:33 PM PST by goodtomato (I'm really, really blessed! WWW.MIKEMcCALISTERFORSENATE.COM check him out!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Despite a lagging economy and high unemployment rates, retailers are reporting this year is one of the best for sales, with 152 million shoppers expected to hit stores this Black Friday.

152 million? I find that hard to believe...

33 posted on 11/25/2011 7:45:51 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

My husband and I own an antique shop. I’ve been a business owner for 24 years and I have always had a Christmas Open House the two days after Thanksgiving. Over the years, we’ve built up a good regular customer base of people that come from everywhere (mostly coming home to visit family). October & November have been slower than the last few years, which have been slower than before.

Today, we had the Open House. There were not as many people as last year, and a lot of my regular travelers were missing. Maybe they’ll show up tomorrow. Money-wise, our sales were OK - nothing to brag about, but we did OK. I know a lot of small business owners (was president of our local merchant’s association for years) that are hanging on by their fingernails. If they don’t have a good Christmas season, I know several that will close. It’s sad to see.


34 posted on 11/25/2011 7:46:25 PM PST by alicewonders
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To: alicewonders

You should of offered some antique flat screen TVs at bargain prices to draw them in. Just sayin’.


35 posted on 11/25/2011 7:48:39 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: who knows what evil?

Read the thread first...


36 posted on 11/25/2011 7:48:45 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Revolting cat!
You should of offered some antique flat screen TVs at bargain prices to draw them in. Just sayin’.

Hey, I had homemade cookies!

37 posted on 11/25/2011 7:56:22 PM PST by alicewonders
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To: discostu

“Which is nice if it turns out you actually need to go to a store for something useful like soap.”

You might be on to something. These mad dash events tend to scare away other shoppers so maybe this start at midnight thing is about clearing those guys out quickly.


38 posted on 11/25/2011 7:57:15 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: goodtomato

“I spent the better part of the day stripping copper wire, cutting copper pipe joints, and stripping aluminum windows. My haul from a years work of rehabbing various projects.The wife use to complain about my stash until I showed her the check! She participates in the collection and cleaning nowadays.I love my wife!”

Awesome! Well done!!


39 posted on 11/25/2011 8:17:22 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Drudge has this headline right now on top of his page:


Black Friday Spending Flat


Lamestream media in this country is so horrible (including Fox). How do they know what the total shopping revenue is when the f'ing day isn't over yet ?

40 posted on 11/25/2011 8:18:26 PM PST by hawkeye101 (Electing lawyers to political office is like hiring a raging alcoholic to run your bar!)
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