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Black College Student Wins Fight to Display Confederate Flag in Dorm Room
THEBLAZE ^ | Posted on December 2, 2011 | Madeleine Morgenstern

Posted on 12/02/2011 2:33:09 PM PST by OL Hickory

A black college student has won the fight to keep a Confederate flag in his dorm room after school officials initially told him to take it down.

“It’s not racist for me,” Thomas, a Georgia native, said in the video. “All it is is a symbol that I see as a sign of respect, and people don’t want to see it that way.”

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TOPICS: Education; Government; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: blackconfederate; confederacy; confederate; flag; south; student
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1 posted on 12/02/2011 2:33:19 PM PST by OL Hickory
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To: OL Hickory

This will cause liberal heads to EXPLODE! lol


2 posted on 12/02/2011 2:37:34 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: OL Hickory

Are black people allowed to have pride in their Southern roots? It may be legal, but it’s not politically correct. Southerners are supposed to be ashamed of their heritage, especially if they’re black.


3 posted on 12/02/2011 2:42:44 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: OL Hickory

Great story, especially his comments on how he came to realise through a class project that the flag’s meaning had been hijacked. And that people should CONSIDER THINGS RATHER THAN HAVE KNEE-JERK REACTIONS. This young man’s advice would serve a few freepers well on this topic. Just sayin’...


4 posted on 12/02/2011 2:45:18 PM PST by thatdewd (I'm tired of watching stupid people do stupid things stupidly.)
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To: OL Hickory
Back when I was in HS you'd see dozens of confederate flags at concerts of any one of a dozen southern bands popular at the time - in the SF bay area!

We had no idea of how insensitive we were being. /s

5 posted on 12/02/2011 2:48:27 PM PST by skeeter
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To: OL Hickory

Good decision, however it’s not really a victory —does anyone really think that a WHITE guy would have been permitted this?

This is similar 2 the way it’s OK for black people 2 use a certain very bad word, but if a white guy says it, his/her career is finished —just ask Dr. Laura (who has disappeared).

Different rules for different people —one side-effect of the glorious trip from the melting pot to the “tossed salad”..


6 posted on 12/02/2011 2:48:42 PM PST by gaijin
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To: BykrBayb

There’s more than a few black southern families with GG-Grandaddy’s confederate reunion flag secreted away in the attic.


7 posted on 12/02/2011 2:49:10 PM PST by thatdewd (I'm tired of watching stupid people do stupid things stupidly.)
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To: skeeter

Back in the early 1960s, Disneyland had hundreds of children’s Confederate kepis (hats) for sale with the Confederate battle flag on top.


8 posted on 12/02/2011 2:53:24 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: thatdewd

I know that, and you know that, but stick around and we’re bound to see the morons commenting on how wrong it is for Southerners to be proud of who they are.


9 posted on 12/02/2011 2:54:13 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: gaijin

She does her show on the web, free from any restrictions.


10 posted on 12/02/2011 2:54:56 PM PST by Jonty30 (If a person won't learn under the best of times, than he must learn under the worst of times.)
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To: BykrBayb

Without a doubt!


11 posted on 12/02/2011 2:57:51 PM PST by thatdewd (I'm tired of watching stupid people do stupid things stupidly.)
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To: OL Hickory
“This flag was seen as a communication symbol” during the Civil War.

Huh? I think it was seen as a flag during the Civil War.

12 posted on 12/02/2011 3:00:24 PM PST by SoJoCo
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To: OL Hickory

OK, so now its illegal to display the stars and bars unless you are black. Great.


13 posted on 12/02/2011 3:01:21 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Inyo-Mono

I remember those!


14 posted on 12/02/2011 3:06:26 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'll vote for Mitt Romney when Hell freezes over. He's as bad or worse than Zero.)
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To: OL Hickory

15 posted on 12/02/2011 3:07:13 PM PST by magslinger (Who cares if they are"electable" if they are going to govern like Democrats? -noprogs)
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To: thatdewd
So True. Most people forget about the blacks who served with the Confederacy...


16 posted on 12/02/2011 3:10:15 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Pimp your blog for hits on Free Republic!)
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To: OL Hickory

God bless this young man. He is wiser beyond his years. I wish him the best success in his life. It is important to stand up for your ideals. I am a descendant of Confederate veterans. I look at it similarly. Slavery was a travesty but we must move past that (as our country has)and not try to erase history.


17 posted on 12/02/2011 3:14:37 PM PST by conservaDave
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[from wikipedia] The 1st Louisiana Native Guard (CSA) was a Confederate Louisiana militia of “free persons of color” formed on May 2, 1861 in New Orleans, Louisiana. It was disbanded in February 1862; ten per cent of its members joined the Union Army’s 1st Louisiana Native Guard regiment (later the 73rd Regiment Infantry U.S. Colored Troops). The CSA did not use this Confederate Native Guard regiment in any military action, and failed to provide it with uniforms or arms. Most of the men in the unit used their own resources to obtain weapons and uniforms which were displayed in a parade in New Orleans on January 8, 1862. When the Louisiana State Legislature passed a law in January 1862 that reorganized the militia by conscripting “all the free white males capable of bearing arms… irrespective of nationality”, the 1st Louisiana Native Guard was also affected. It was forced to disband on February 15, 1862.


18 posted on 12/02/2011 3:19:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: OL Hickory
Dayum! I'd be disowned by the black folks in my family if I ever displayed a Confederate flag. They're already pissed off that I'm a Tea Party conservative who moved to Texas, and wears a cowboy hat!



19 posted on 12/02/2011 3:19:50 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

They have disowned you - I got a FReepmail - they are trying to tell you - but you won’t listen;)


20 posted on 12/02/2011 3:25:23 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Newter the Democrats - top to bottom.)
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To: Windflier

Then I guess they wouldn’t want to see this website.. http://blackcowboys.com


21 posted on 12/02/2011 3:26:55 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Windflier
Back when I traveled a bit for work I was driving through Walpole Massachusetts. Not exactly the deep south to say the least but there were Confederate flags on everything: cars, in shop windows, flags etc.

Craziest thing this Yankee could imagine seeing and I figured there must be a lot of Southerns who had moved North. Then I drove by the Walpole High School which had “ Home of The Rebels “ on the side of the facade and a Confederate flag flying in front. Mystery solved.

22 posted on 12/02/2011 3:32:39 PM PST by warsaw44
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To: OL Hickory

On our high school 1960 Senior Trip, we went to, among other places, Gettysburg, where one could buy Confederate flags and hats with the Confederate flag in front I got mine.


23 posted on 12/02/2011 3:33:28 PM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: Inyo-Mono
Back then Frontierland featured indians attacking a pioneer & shooting him full of arrows. As a tyke I personally manned a log blockhouse and picked off a half dozen indians with a Winchester 73 popgun.

It was a different world.

24 posted on 12/02/2011 3:38:06 PM PST by skeeter
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To: BykrBayb
Southerners are supposed to be ashamed of their heritage, especially if they’re black.

I'm a black man pushing 60, and I can attest that what you say is correct. My entire family tree goes back to the Deep South, at least into the mid 1800s. I've got white ancestors who fought on both sides of the Civil War, and of course I have ancestors who were slaves (even some slave owners).

One of my ancestors was the author of the Crittenden Compromise. Some family members of my generation disown the man, because they disagree with that document. Can't say that I'm all that proud of it, either, but family is family in my mind. Even if they were long deceased before you were born. Those are my roots, for good or bad.

25 posted on 12/02/2011 3:40:39 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: OL Hickory

Pretty soon, we will hear accusations that he has sexually harassed multiple white women who are not only blonde, but have terrible FICO scores.


26 posted on 12/02/2011 3:41:18 PM PST by neocon1984
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To: Inyo-Mono
Back in the early 1960s, Disneyland had hundreds of children’s Confederate kepis (hats) for sale with the Confederate battle flag on top.

Back in the early 60s Disney was still acknowledging that they'd made an animated movie called "Song of the South".
27 posted on 12/02/2011 3:42:41 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: Windflier

I know all about that. Family is family, for good or bad. I have ancestors I’m very proud of, and some I’m ashamed of. I have some family that I’m both proud and ashamed of at the same time. What can you do? It is what it is.


28 posted on 12/02/2011 3:48:15 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: sodpoodle
They have disowned you - I got a FReepmail - they are trying to tell you - but you won’t listen;)

LOL! That's truer than you know!

29 posted on 12/02/2011 3:48:47 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: BykrBayb
blackcowboys.com

Cool website. Just goes to show that you can find anything on the web.

30 posted on 12/02/2011 3:51:30 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Family is family. One of my great-grandfathers fought for the CSA while his younger brother joined the Union. They were western Virginians and second cousins to Stonewall Jackson. My great-grandfather’s brother was denied a $5 a month pension by the War Dept. because his brother fought for the Confederates.


31 posted on 12/02/2011 3:53:12 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: Windflier
WOW...could it be that people are once again, learning what it means to be American, what an example this young man, I think so, first and foremost one should be proud to be American. The message is getting through despite political correctness, despite concentrated anti American school curriculum's, etc...One Nation Under God Indivisible With Liberty and Justice for All,... the truth does not die.
32 posted on 12/02/2011 3:54:30 PM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Windflier

Have long appreciated your writing skills on FReeper threads. Your family history is fascinating and I wonder if you have ever considered authoring a book on such an accomplished and diverse group of ancestors?

It would be a great read.


33 posted on 12/02/2011 3:54:44 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Newter the Democrats - top to bottom.)
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To: BykrBayb
I have ancestors I’m very proud of, and some I’m ashamed of. I have some family that I’m both proud and ashamed of at the same time. What can you do? It is what it is.

We're sufficiently removed in time from that horrible episode in our nation's history, that I don't feel any sense of shame for the politics and social mores of my ancestors. They were people of their age, and were embarking on a learning experience that would come to reshape the whole nation.

I haven't done the research, but I'd willing to bet that my grandfather four generations removed, went to his death bed regretting the compromise he authored. He may even have known that he had a couple of mulatto grandchildren, before he died.

34 posted on 12/02/2011 3:59:52 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Inyo-Mono
One of my great-grandfathers fought for the CSA while his younger brother joined the Union.

Same thing happened with my G-G-G grandfather and his brother. Interestingly, I have the same schism with some of my own brothers now.

35 posted on 12/02/2011 4:02:39 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: PoloSec
One Nation Under God Indivisible With Liberty and Justice for All,... the truth does not die.

Amen. May it ever be so.

36 posted on 12/02/2011 4:03:45 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: sodpoodle
Geez, Sod, yer makin me blush :-)

Your family history is fascinating and I wonder if you have ever considered authoring a book on such an accomplished and diverse group of ancestors?

I've actually considered it. It's something that I hope to do after I retire. My dad has done decades of research into the family tree, so I've got a tremendous amount of leads to start from.

Thank you for the kind words.

37 posted on 12/02/2011 4:06:24 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

You BLUSH??????????????????????????

Gotcha!!!


38 posted on 12/02/2011 4:14:13 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Newter the Democrats - top to bottom.)
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To: sodpoodle
You BLUSH??????????????????????????

Gotcha!!!

Dammit. I just knew that was coming .. LOL

39 posted on 12/02/2011 4:17:53 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I still luv yah;)

p.s. hurry up with the chronicles - I’m old and barely hangin’ on.


40 posted on 12/02/2011 4:25:23 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Newter the Democrats - top to bottom.)
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To: tanknetter
Love that show!


41 posted on 12/02/2011 4:28:20 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Pimp your blog for hits on Free Republic!)
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To: OL Hickory

A clear double standard as racism is concerned.If the young man had been white, the flag would have come down and he would be out of school.The most discriminated against group in this country is the white American male. Glad that he stood his ground though


42 posted on 12/02/2011 4:32:18 PM PST by Figment
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To: conservaDave

Slavery was a travesty but we must move past that (as our country has)and not try to erase history.

Folks that can’t let the past be past, never mention that the USA was the only country to fight a war to end it. It still thrives in Africa and the middle east though


43 posted on 12/02/2011 4:38:38 PM PST by Figment
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To: neocon1984

really bad comparison


44 posted on 12/02/2011 4:42:46 PM PST by Figment
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To: Windflier
I'd be disowned by the black folks in my family if I ever displayed a Confederate flag. They're already pissed off that I'm a Tea Party conservative who moved to Texas, and wears a cowboy hat!

Now start listening to Bob Wills, Ernest Tubb, George Jones and real Country music. You may no longer have any black family members left! :-)

45 posted on 12/02/2011 4:50:26 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: BykrBayb; Windflier
"Family is family, for good or bad."

As I've mentioned a few times on FR, my mom and brother are dumb-assed libtards. Anyone who has managed to earn and save a few extra dollars is to blame for all their misery. It's really pathetic.

46 posted on 12/02/2011 4:53:22 PM PST by Mich Patriot (I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself. Ronald Reagan)
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To: warsaw44
Back when I traveled a bit for work I was driving through Walpole Massachusetts. Not exactly the deep south to say the least but there were Confederate flags on everything: cars, in shop windows, flags etc.

I sure hope none of them were any of were flying the Stars and Bars upside down.

47 posted on 12/02/2011 4:56:01 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Figment
really bad comparison

Your terseness leaves me wondering why that was a bad comparison. I also wonder if you have any sense of humor.

48 posted on 12/02/2011 5:06:48 PM PST by neocon1984
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To: re_nortex
Now start listening to Bob Wills, Ernest Tubb, George Jones and real Country music. You may no longer have any black family members left! :-)

Damn, you must be spying on me. LOL

I finally got over my allergy to country music a couple of years ago. Had to, because no other genre makes real music anymore.

"99.5 The Wolf - aaOOOOOO!"

49 posted on 12/02/2011 5:21:32 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: OL Hickory
"...and people don’t want to see it that way."

Nail meet Head.


50 posted on 12/02/2011 7:08:07 PM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; one box left.)
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