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Bill Authorizes Martial Law for America
A Semi-News/Semi-Satire from AzConservative ^ | 3 Dec 2011 | John Semmens

Posted on 12/05/2011 10:55:52 AM PST by John Semmens

A recently passed Senate Bill—the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA)—grants broad new authority to the Department of Defense (DOD) to arrest and detain civilians who are suspected of being enemies of the state. In any area that the DOD declares to be a “zone of conflict” it would be empowered to apprehend and imprison suspected enemies “for the duration of the conflict.” The Bill explicitly repeals the 1878 Posse Comitatus ban on the use of US troops against civilians within the borders of the United States.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta called the expanded authority “absolutely necessary tools for defeating those who would attempt to bring down our government—whether from external attack or internal sabotage.”

Panetta acknowledged that these new powers contradict protections guaranteed in the Bill of Rights, but asserted that “the threats we face today warrant extraordinary steps to counter them. After all, it’s not as if we’d be totally obliterating the protections against wrongful imprisonment. Those accused of crimes against the private sector would still be granted the privilege of a speedy trial before a jury of their peers. It would only be when then intended target is the government itself that this new emergency authority would be deployed.” The Secretary characterized fears that such sweeping powers could be abused as “overwrought.”

“Such fears postulate that the government itself would act against the people’s best interests,” Panetta observed. “But this overlooks the fact that the government is composed of persons who are of the people, elected by the people, and for the benefit of the people. An abuse of power would be a betrayal of trust that could only be contemplated by a tyrant. I assure you that I am not a tyrant and neither is President Obama.”

if you miss any of this week's semi-news posts you can find them at...

http://azconserv1.wordpress.com/2011/12/03/white-house-threatens-to-cancel-congressional-holidays/


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: constitution; craptire; justice; notworthreading; satire; stupid; tyranny; wasteoftime

1 posted on 12/05/2011 10:55:57 AM PST by John Semmens
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To: John Semmens

John ...This one’s gonna cause a ruckus


2 posted on 12/05/2011 11:02:49 AM PST by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: John Semmens

“They that would sacrifice Liberty for Security deserve neither and will lose both” Benjamin Franklin

Further proof of how special the founding fathers were and why they so mistrusted a central government.

Yet, no one rises to have this struck down as unconstitutional. The BOHICA Party has done it again. What further proof is needed that our elected representatives are a criminal enterprise, engaged in racketeering?

http://www.ask.com/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act


3 posted on 12/05/2011 11:05:20 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: John Semmens

I guess all I can say John is that you have done it again. Thought provoking, and hard hitting.


4 posted on 12/05/2011 11:09:49 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: John Semmens

I am guessing that Ron Paul will be on the side of individual freedom and vote “NO” on this bill.

Is there anyone else we can trust with our liberty besides Ron Paul?


5 posted on 12/05/2011 11:10:59 AM PST by CGalen
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To: John Semmens

The more “laws” the more criminals, the more that can be ignored for the government’s friends, and the more than can be used as tools to keep down the citizenry.


6 posted on 12/05/2011 11:11:40 AM PST by GraceG
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To: John Semmens
good one John.. hope you got that flame retardant suit on!!! LOL
7 posted on 12/05/2011 11:12:38 AM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: CGalen

[ I am guessing that Ron Paul will be on the side of individual freedom and vote “NO” on this bill.

Is there anyone else we can trust with our liberty besides Ron Paul? ]

Sadly When it comes to Domestic Constitutional Issues Ron Paul is all the GOP really has in terms of Original Founder’s intent.

I wish we had a someone who was good for Foreign Policy with Ron Paul’s Domestic “Founder’s Constitutionalism”.


8 posted on 12/05/2011 11:14:34 AM PST by GraceG
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To: John Semmens
"...“Such fears postulate that the government itself would act against the people’s best interests,” Panetta observed. ... An abuse of power would be a betrayal of trust that could only be contemplated by a tyrant...”

However, our Founding Fathers sought to place limits on government because they knew that a tyrant might be elected and then fail to relinquish power through free and open elections. The rationale for the Second Amendment is to provide the means for armed overthrow of such a tyrant. I also find it ironic that liberals who wring their hands when armed foreign enemies at war with the US aren't given trials in US courts would have no problem in denying US citizens their Constitutional rights by armed force for solely disagreeing with their government.

I hope members of the House will reject this act.

9 posted on 12/05/2011 11:14:34 AM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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An abuse of power would be a betrayal of trust that could only be contemplated by a tyrant. I assure you that I am not a tyrant and neither is President Obama.

Laughable....if it weren't in direct contradiction to EVERYTHING this administration were doing.... Obama may not be a tyrant....but he is setting up the infrastructure to become one. Only a mind-numbed, ignorant, kool-aid drinker would be blind to that reality.
10 posted on 12/05/2011 11:23:36 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: CGalen
Is there anyone else we can trust with our liberty besides Ron Paul?

Who cares about liberty when scary Muslim terrorists are out there plotting to kill or convert every American.

11 posted on 12/05/2011 11:26:20 AM PST by Roninf5-1
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To: John Semmens

This is a dangerous step and of course supported by the democrats. I hear crickets - where is the MSM on this one ?


12 posted on 12/05/2011 11:30:07 AM PST by CORedneck
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Not even Hitler or Stalin or Kim Jon Il could have done better ....


13 posted on 12/05/2011 11:35:57 AM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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Our Founding Fathers made it known the people had the God given right to dump the Government if and when it was necessary.

This bill, if signed into law, would enable the Government to do whatever it wants and call any citizen a terrorist or enemy if that citizens speaks or acts out against the tyranny.

This really makes me sick.


14 posted on 12/05/2011 11:38:27 AM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: John Semmens
No need to bait the hook, they're jumping right into the boat!

Regards,
GtG

15 posted on 12/05/2011 11:42:58 AM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: John Semmens
“Such fears postulate that the government itself would act against the people’s best interests,” Panetta observed. “But this overlooks the fact that the government is composed of persons who are of the people, elected by the people, and for the benefit of the people. An abuse of power would be a betrayal of trust that could only be contemplated by a tyrant. I assure you that I am not a tyrant and neither is President Obama.”

The last I checked Mr. Panetta and the Obozo are socialist liberal democrats. If those in government have been so concerned about preserving the Constitutional rights of the people why have so many of those rights (1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th & 10th) been eroded by those sworn to protect them? As well, why has the US government electorate and their bureaucrats worked diligently to put themselves above the laws of which the rest of us are subjected?

When there is no longer trust in the government to do what is right and good for the country it is time for the citizens to throw it off. Clearly that is what this legislation addresses and what the ruling elite fears the most.

16 posted on 12/05/2011 11:45:14 AM PST by drypowder
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Enemy of the state? No.
Soooo, when are they coming for folks like me who ARE enemies of obammy and his marxist B.S. and his ilk???
Bet they use this crappola law for that come martial law time (when it looks like obammy is going to lose big).


17 posted on 12/05/2011 11:49:42 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey obammy,just get out and take your wookie bride with ya)
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To: John Semmens

Semi-satire...are you joking here?


18 posted on 12/05/2011 11:50:14 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: John Semmens

OK, that’s not funny.
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(well maybe a little, but scarier more than funny)


19 posted on 12/05/2011 11:53:08 AM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: NTHockey
>>They that would sacrifice Liberty for Security deserve neither and will lose both” Benjamin Franklin<<

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Thomas Jefferson.

Tell me these guys did not have a diving foreknowledge!

Thomas didn't say, should be or might be or ought to be.

Not advocating anything, just thought the quote was fitting.

20 posted on 12/05/2011 11:55:08 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: NTHockey

>>They that would sacrifice Liberty for Security deserve neither and will lose both” Benjamin Franklin<<

The tree of liberty must be refreashed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Thomas Jefferson.

Tell me these guys did not have a divine foreknowledge!

Thomas didn’t say, should be or might be or ought to be.

Not advocating anything, just thought the quote was fitting.


21 posted on 12/05/2011 11:55:28 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

Damn slow internet....prolly the feds...hehe


22 posted on 12/05/2011 11:56:25 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: John Semmens

Well, hell; if they’re going to open up the borders to every form of vermin that crawls the earth, the Constitution ain’t going to be worth a roll of Charmin, anyway. We’ll all be toast at that point, just piling up the bags and hunkering down from the cross-fire. I’ll be glad as hell to snuggle up to U.S. troops against all other comers...... Better my snake than theirs.


23 posted on 12/05/2011 12:15:54 PM PST by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
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To: GraceG

It already passed in the house. It’s funding bill so it originated in the house as H.R. 1540, passed 322-96 on 5/26/2011. Paul voted no. Bachman voted aye.


24 posted on 12/05/2011 5:53:26 PM PST by WildSnail (The US government now has more control over the people than the old Soviet Union ever dreamed of)
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To: GraceG

It already passed in the house. It’s funding bill so it originated in the house as H.R. 1540, passed 322-96 on 5/26/2011. Paul voted no. Bachman voted aye.


25 posted on 12/05/2011 5:53:38 PM PST by WildSnail (The US government now has more control over the people than the old Soviet Union ever dreamed of)
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To: GraceG

It already passed in the house. It’s funding bill so it originated in the house as H.R. 1540, passed 322-96 on 5/26/2011. Paul voted no. Bachman voted aye.


26 posted on 12/05/2011 5:54:07 PM PST by WildSnail (The US government now has more control over the people than the old Soviet Union ever dreamed of)
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To: WildSnail

@#$%. First multi-post and it’s a triple!


27 posted on 12/05/2011 5:56:31 PM PST by WildSnail (The US government now has more control over the people than the old Soviet Union ever dreamed of)
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To: John Semmens

Is this why the socialist are allowing occupy to continue? An excuse to call martial law?


28 posted on 12/05/2011 5:59:10 PM PST by jetson
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