Posted on 12/06/2011 6:22:41 AM PST by Johnny B.
This claim is made for two reasons:
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I am a moron, I just noticed your first name.
The article does a reasonably good job of explaining why LENR is not possible according to the knowledge of 1960's.Unfortunately, there is no explanation, based on knowledge of the 1960s or now, that can explain how Rossi is transmuting "natural" Nickel (meaning only the naturally-occuring isotopes, in precisely the same ratio as in nature) into "natural" Copper and "natural" Iron.
Focardi's paper doesn't offer a process that will do this. No one else's papers describe a way of producing this result. However, just mixing some Copper and Iron powder into some Nickel powder would produce exactly what Rossi supplied.
George Miley recently presented data from his research. Miley has found 39 non-natural isotope ratios in the "ash" from his process. This is compelling evidence that a nuclear process is occurring. Additionally, it would be very difficult and very expensive to "fake" such evidence.
Rossi has nothing comparable. His samples are identical to what you would get in a kid's chemistry set, mixed together using nothing more sophisticated than a kitchen scale. I suspect that producing realistic samples would be far too expensive for his scam, so he just ignored the issue and hoped that no one would notice.
Flagpole? I TRIPLE DOG Dare you!
For instance, the argument that the diesel gen-set was running during the test. Perhaps many here have not been around one, but you can tell when the load has been switched off and on. You can hear it. You can see it in the exhaust. Kind of like when an 18 wheeler starts up a steep grade. Black smoke out the exhaust...Although Rossi (and his secret "NATO Colonel") claimed about 470KW of power, that is based on the unsubstantiated claim that they were converting all the supplied water into steam. Based on the data they did provide, this seems unlikely.
Using the data supplied, the amount of power actually being "generated" could be as little as 65-75KW. That assumes that a trivial amount of water is actually being converted into steam. During this test, Rossi went out of his way to prevent any outsiders from being able to make even the most trivial measurements, so there is no reason to believe Rossi's conclusions.
A 500KW generator could easily provide 65-75KW without having to throttle up.
It’s interesting that my post was removed from that site... Wonder why that would be? I guess it didn’t support their agenda.
Your post is still there, for some reason, it’s #31 now. Did you repost it or do they use some funky posting order?
Granted, flag poles are colder, but you will have to find someone that will respond to a triple-dog dare.
BTW, did you know that the actor who played Ralphie also played the chief elf in the movie "Elf"?
If I was Rossi and had just invented something that will change the world overnight, I'd have it professionally tested by more than one group. Just make it clear that they can't open the box and have someone as his rep at each test to ensure they don't try to open it.
That's what doesn't make sense. If he had that kind of proof, he could stand on the rooftops and exclaim that he had just solved one of mankind's major problems! Imagine what would happen in the energy markets???
He would then be able to grant manufacturing rights to a company like GE and collect the royalty checks and he could also have GE outfit him with a complete lab to work on his inventions. I picked GE as an example, I don't like their products, I think their quality is way down from twenty years ago. But if the E-cat is real, Rossi would have his pick.
He also needs to get it out before a government entity decides it's too important for one man to own the rights and to steal it right out from under him. Now, don't say that's why he acts the way he does, none of his theatrics would protect him from an Atlas Shrugged type government.
>> I’m tempted to report you all to the admin and have you all removed from this site!!
PLEASE!! I triple dog dare ya! I need to get some work done.
>> BTW, did you know that the actor who played Ralphie also played the chief elf in the movie “Elf”?
I did not know that! What are you, the Renaissance Man? Movie trivia, physics, amateur comedian, hall monitor... what other talents do you have? :-)
The very words, “Cold fusion.” are oxymoronic-—If we are talking about a nuclear reaction.
“Although Rossi (and his secret “NATO Colonel”) claimed about 470KW of power, that is based on the unsubstantiated claim that they were converting all the supplied water into steam. Based on the data they did provide, this seems unlikely. “
It is my understanding that with the “1 megawatt” test they did not convert the water to steam, in order to get more reliable measurements.
It is my understanding that with the 1 megawatt test they did not convert the water to steam, in order to get more reliable measurements.That is not what has been widely reported. The "1MW" E-Cat supposedly produced steam, which was then fed into a closed-loop heat exchanger which converted it back into water. LINK, LINK, LINK.
Like all of Rossi's tests (except the February one, which had its own set of problems), the amount of steam actually generated was never properly determined. In the earlier tests, it was simply dumped down the drain. In this test, it was supposedly fed into a heat exchanger. Note that no one was allowed to get close enough to the heat exchanger to determine whether it was really giving off any heat or not.
The significance of this is that Rossi is claiming that the E-Cat is producing a excess heat in the ration of 6:1. This is the same ratio in the amount of energy required to convert water to steam versus heating it just to the boiling point. So, by lying about actually converting the water into steam, he "automatically" gets a apparent 6:1 gain where none exists.
I did not know that! What are you, the Renaissance Man? Movie trivia, physics, amateur comedian, hall monitor... what other talents do you have? :-)I'm a world-class insomniac... which is how I manage to do all the other things. ;-)
>> Im tempted to report you all to the admin and have you all removed from this site!!You and me both!PLEASE!! I triple dog dare ya! I need to get some work done.
I need to wean myself off of this story so I can get actual work done. But, it's like a good mystery story; I keep turning the pages to see "who done it".
Does that mean that's what your degree from Kensington University is in????
That's where I got my PhD in nuk-u-lar physics and I'm in charge of the local nuk plant. That's the ticket, yeah...
They bring nothing of value to this thread. They are flag pole sitting shore birds, circling en masse (when not sitting on flag poles) in hopes of lining up targets under their drop zone.
Here's my standard reply to the lot of them:
I invented an electric tea kettle...
Actually, it’s a combination tea kettle and steam iron!
In fact, it’s a MegaWatt cold fusion tea kettle and steam iron!
Yeah, that’s the ticket!
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