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Reason #985-B To Think Ron Paul Sucks
My Undying Opposition To Ron Paul | 12/6/11 | Alan Levy

Posted on 12/06/2011 9:24:46 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama

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To: Hemingway's Ghost; Absolutely Nobama
My interests are in political philosophy; chiefly, the proper relationship between the government and the governed.

What does your political philosophy say about the government forcing either by law or judicial decision homosexuals in the military? Or homosexuality taught in public schools? Or legalizing "gay pride" parades? Or forcing everyone to tolerate and say nothing critical of acting out homosexuals in the public sphere?

Don't these issues fall under the aegis of "political philiosphy?

341 posted on 12/08/2011 10:59:03 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

Which comment were you linking to? There are a lot of deleted ones.


342 posted on 12/08/2011 11:18:25 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah

I had a teacher who liked banal and nauseating ‘writers’.
The worse the writer, the happier the teacher was.
No, you didn’t miss anything except having to write a report on how Hemingway’s ‘work’ was significant to current events.
*puke*
Yes, our teachers loved to give us an assignment and include a pre-ordained conclusion for us.
Needless to say, since I didn’t care for the Master of Banal Writing, I got a failing grade on that assignment.
Hemingway is to good writing what Ralph Bakshi is to good animation.


343 posted on 12/08/2011 11:37:07 AM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

Interesting.
Kurt Evans and a certain triple 7 handle were in there as well.
Kurt Evans was pushing support for homosexuals in this Conservative forum recently.
He is no longer with us in forum.
He thought he was being clever.


344 posted on 12/08/2011 11:42:59 AM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

Let’s expand, shall we?....

Conservatism 102:

The United States of America was founded on a legal document between the People and their Government (both State and Federal), the Constitution. Whereas, we are a nation of LAWS, not of MEN (nor their ideals).

THIS MEANS:

— Unless the power used was expressly granted by said document, is does NOT exist.
— All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void.

RE your 3 bullets:
1) Marriage is an institution of the church and God. Civil Unions != marriage, but DO == contracts (works for me), but don’t intrude one into the other.
2) I own me and my body/labor, piss off otherwise.
3) Implanted fertilized egg == new PERSON (its genetics are its own). Abortion is murder and no matter which way it goes w/ the law, I shouldn’t have to fund ‘em (see #2)

Just cause it gets your panties in a wad, doesn’t make it right nor legal. Get the gov’t and the busy-bodies the hell out of 90+% of what it’s nose is in and we can banter on the last 10% (and that goes at the local level as well. If the law(s) were made in a extortionist manor from the Fed, they should be repealed or re-voted upon).

As a Libertarian on a (sometimes hostile) Conservative site, I have yet to see ANYONE step up to the plate to ‘be the solution’, let alone BE Conservative. Talking platitudes mean sh!t if there’s no follow through, and I haven’t seen ONE department dismantled yet.


345 posted on 12/08/2011 12:24:36 PM PST by i_robot73
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To: little jeremiah

#362

I guess my “photographic memory” didn’t work on the post number!

LOL!


346 posted on 12/08/2011 6:28:43 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

ROTLFOL! I had skipped HG’s comment. Only weirdos call a homosexual a “gay man”. In line with that comment, one should call them Nature’s Noblemen.

(Could one thing in common he has with his namesake is the writing of...fiction?)


347 posted on 12/08/2011 6:47:59 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah
What does your political philosophy say about the government forcing either by law or judicial decision homosexuals in the military? Or homosexuality taught in public schools? Or legalizing "gay pride" parades? Or forcing everyone to tolerate and say nothing critical of acting out homosexuals in the public sphere?

The military, in my humble opinion, has two main "jobs," if you will: (1) in times of peace, to make potential enemies too intimidated to mess with us, (2) in times of war, to kill the enemy as expeditiously and efficiently in order to triumph. Again, anything, in my opinion, that prevents the military from doing those two things is a distraction.

I've never seen combat, so I do not know if there is anything inherent in combat that prevents a gay man or woman from doing his or her duty in combat. Like I've said on another thread, I know, personally, a former USN swift boat officer and graduate of USNA who performed so admirably in combat that he was awarded numerous medals for his bravery and heroism under fire. He's passed on now, but he was a gay man. Anecdotal evidence? Sure. But I cannot discount what I know to be true: He was an officer. He was a combat veteran. He was a legitimate combat hero. And he was a gay man. Honestly, man, make of it what you will, but those are the iron-clad facts.

Now, I do know something about serving in the military in peace time. I do know the importance of unit cohesion. I do know what it's like to serve in less-than-ideal conditions for long periods of time with the same group of idiots day in, day out, etc., without a break. I do know that in order to do all this effectively, efficiently, and pleasantly (as much as possible), a unit has to be able to--for lack of a better way to put it--josh around with each other, poke fun at each other, give and take barbs and insults, etc. In other words, to act like a typical Irish-American family.

And I do know that the gays, in general, tend to have a chip on their shoulder. And I do know that this chip on their shoulder often makes them the "pebble in the shoe" . . . you can't mess with them. You can't josh with them. You can't goof around with them. It only takes one person of this nature--gay or not, quite frankly--to destroy a unit's esprit de corps. I have literally seen it happen, although not with a gay guy, but with a woman (and you can draw your own conclusions there).

So there you go. That's what I "know" about gays in the military. I was only ever a JO and I never saw combat. I'll defer to the admirals and generals who have. It's their blood on the line, and the blood of the men and women beneath them. They don't shed that blood lightly.

I am flat out against sexuality being "taught" in schools. That's my job as a parent. The job of a school is to teach my kids literature, science, math, history, etc. Period. About the enforcement of "political correctness" I am dead set against it; I come from a family where ragging on each other in good fun was and is and will always be a cherished sport.

So there you go. If those stances make me a political enemy of yours, I'm sorry for it, but so be it.

348 posted on 12/09/2011 5:54:38 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost; Jim Robinson; little jeremiah

“I’ve never seen combat, so I do not know if there is anything inherent in combat that prevents a gay man or woman from doing his or her duty in combat........Now, I do know something about serving in the military in peace time. I do know the importance of unit cohesion. I do know what it’s like to serve in less-than-ideal conditions for long periods of time with the same group of idiots day in, day out, etc., without a break. I do know that in order to do all this effectively, efficiently, and pleasantly (as much as possible), a unit has to be able to—for lack of a better way to put it—josh around with each other, poke fun at each other, give and take barbs and insults, etc. In other words, to act like a typical Irish-American family.

And I do know that the gays, in general, tend to have a chip on their shoulder. And I do know that this chip on their shoulder often makes them the ‘pebble in the shoe’ . . . you can’t mess with them. You can’t josh with them. You can’t goof around with them. It only takes one person of this nature—gay or not, quite frankly—to destroy a unit’s esprit de corps.”

Watching left-leaning RINO pseudo-intellectuals contradict themselves is more fun than human being should allowed to have. (H/T: El Rushbo)


349 posted on 12/09/2011 9:44:53 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: Absolutely Nobama
Watching left-leaning RINO pseudo-intellectuals contradict themselves is more fun than human being should allowed to have. (H/T: El Rushbo)

Oh, brother. I'm not contradicting myself at all, just merely recounting some observations I've made out there. Heaven forbid someone try to inject a little honesty and observation into one of these threads.

Merry Christmas, Absolutely Nobama.

And Beat Army while you're at it. Here's a nice read about the Army/Navy game for you if you're interested. Some of these guys will be in harm's way in the near future on our behalf.

350 posted on 12/09/2011 10:26:50 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

“Heaven forbid someone try to inject a little honesty and observation into one of these threads.”

No, you’re attempting to push an agenda that’s unholy and immoral. There is no excuse for that. None whatsoever.


351 posted on 12/09/2011 10:57:15 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: Absolutely Nobama
No, you’re attempting to push an agenda that’s unholy and immoral. There is no excuse for that. None whatsoever.

100% incorrect. I'm "pushing" no agenda whatsoever.

352 posted on 12/09/2011 11:14:21 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Absolutely Nobama; Hemingway's Ghost

What to speak of the other problems homosexuals cause - sexual assault, rape, openly being sexual with each other in public, more prone to violence, favoritism due to sexual favors, higher rates of drug use and so on. And all these have happened under DADT, it’s going to get much worse now. I posted a list of FR numerous times of articles here on FR detailing from military experts why homosexuals are very destructive to morale, unit cohesion and military readiness. Anyone who thinks they are no problem IS the problem.


353 posted on 12/09/2011 11:20:57 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah

Agreed.


354 posted on 12/09/2011 11:27:32 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: little jeremiah
What to speak of the other problems homosexuals cause - sexual assault, rape, openly being sexual with each other in public, more prone to violence, favoritism due to sexual favors, higher rates of drug use and so on. And all these have happened under DADT, it’s going to get much worse now. I posted a list of FR numerous times of articles here on FR detailing from military experts why homosexuals are very destructive to morale, unit cohesion and military readiness. Anyone who thinks they are no problem IS the problem.

Like I said, I am happy to defer to the experts here. As long as our military is the greatest military on planet Earth, I'm happy. How they see to making it so is not my area of expertise.

355 posted on 12/09/2011 11:29:44 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Darksheare

The bible teaches homosexuality is wrong, but don’t you think you should have at least read the email?

I have homosexuals among people I care about. Disagree with that part of them but despite that they are quality people. Hate the sin but love the sinner!


356 posted on 08/10/2014 1:14:44 PM PDT by FTD33 (Counting down to January 20, 2017)
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To: FTD33; Jim Robinson; wagglebee; little jeremiah; DJ MacWoW; TheOldLady
Welcome to FR http://freerepublic.com/tag/by:ftd33/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change Also, nice of you to dig up a comment from "‎12‎/‎6‎/‎2011‎" to start a fight over.
357 posted on 08/10/2014 1:28:06 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee! First one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: FTD33

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3106822/posts?page=59#59

You sure like digging up old dead threads pal.


358 posted on 08/10/2014 1:29:38 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee! First one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: FTD33
but don’t you think you should have at least read the email?

No. If you can't say it on the forum, don't say it.

Why are you resurrecting an old thread?

359 posted on 08/10/2014 1:35:00 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: FTD33

http://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2816719/posts?page=56#56
And just like I said to the other poster whom you are pretending to be.


360 posted on 08/10/2014 1:40:13 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee! First one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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