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It Can and Is Happening Here
The Dollar Vigilante ^ | 7 December, 2011 | NA

Posted on 12/08/2011 3:14:57 AM PST by marktwain

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What is really nasty here is the cavaler attitude toward a warrant. Perhaps someone can explain how this is not a direct violation of the 4th amendment?
1 posted on 12/08/2011 3:14:59 AM PST by marktwain
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cavaler should be cavalier
2 posted on 12/08/2011 3:15:48 AM PST by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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There are no laws.
There is no Constitution.
There are only powerful people who think they can get away with things.

And they are usually correct.


3 posted on 12/08/2011 3:32:13 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war. It's coming.)
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What arm of the government isn’t militarized now?? ,, Even the Dept. of Education has an arsenal. http://usgovinfo.about.com/b/2010/03/18/why-the-dept-of-education-needs-shotguns.htm


4 posted on 12/08/2011 3:32:25 AM PST by Neidermeyer
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Sounds like more to this story:

“Anderson had previously been held for 8 months just for being mentioned in a conversation with some other men supposedly wanted for planning to kill Alaska State Troopers or court officials”


5 posted on 12/08/2011 3:46:31 AM PST by FR_addict
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Why was this man not at his own home with his own wife and child instead of hiding there?

Just asking...seems like the FBI was expected.

I mean Anarchists seem to draw their attention for some reason.

6 posted on 12/08/2011 3:49:56 AM PST by DainBramage
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Because they say it is not. /s

This sucks and the FBI is digging its own grave so it can be by the DEA & ATF. Sad.

7 posted on 12/08/2011 5:00:57 AM PST by Ratman83
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Horse hockey! If the government was so severe, it would be using cattle prods on the OWS crowd as it should. Virgina is still paying disability to state troopers that injured their backs dragging lard arse striking union miners out of the road years ago when we expiermented with an affirmative action governor that should have been a warning about Obama.


8 posted on 12/08/2011 5:31:32 AM PST by BTCM (Death and destruction is the only treaty Muslims comprehend.)
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More to the story?

So that would justify the ignoring of requirements to enter a home when a warrant is requested?

If such behavior is OK when there ‘is more to the story’, then it WILL be OK when there is no story at all.


9 posted on 12/08/2011 5:45:25 AM PST by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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The continuing saga of libertarian lament. lol
10 posted on 12/08/2011 5:48:55 AM PST by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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“What is really nasty here is the cavaler attitude toward a warrant. Perhaps someone can explain how this is not a direct violation of the 4th amendment?”

I hate to be the one to tell you but thanks to the Patriot Act they don’t need a warrant anymore. And thanks to the recent Legislation passed by the SEnate last week they can snatch up anybody, accuse them of being Al Queda and put them in a detention camp incognito indefinitely. Welcome to the Police State ya’ll.


11 posted on 12/08/2011 6:52:57 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Gee... People who just want to be left alone, in a Country supposedly predicated upon individual Freedom, get pissed off when the government refuses to leave them alone...

Who'da thunk it...

In typical ham-handed fashion, said government then makes things worse by using the same kind of tyrant-tactics the kooks said they would...

Stick a fork in us. This isn't going to get any better from here.

12 posted on 12/08/2011 7:00:32 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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I’m glad you find the burgeoning police State funny. :-|


13 posted on 12/08/2011 7:16:23 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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It does not impact me. :-)


14 posted on 12/08/2011 8:27:43 AM PST by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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Yet...


15 posted on 12/08/2011 9:54:41 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

You are exactly right. The recent update to the spending bill
makes it clear that you only need to be “associated” with Al
Queda before they can treat you as a terrorist...no definition
or criteria is given as to the burden of proof prior to
declaring you as such. Thus they can pretty much pick a group
in secret and declare them terrorists and then round’em up
under the rule of war. No judicial process etc etc.


16 posted on 12/08/2011 9:55:16 AM PST by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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Al Queda, or other terrorist groups.

Give 'em a chance and the NRA/GOA/SAF/JPFO type groups will be added to that "list".

17 posted on 12/08/2011 10:04:11 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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I am confident in my assertion.


18 posted on 12/08/2011 10:27:47 AM PST by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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Some more info on this fiasco...

http://newsminer.com/bookmark/16691974-Judge-unseals-document-justifying-Anderson-s-detention-in-Fairbanks-militia-case

“If you can’t charge ‘em, break ‘em until they snap.”

Yeah... This’ll end well.


19 posted on 12/08/2011 11:12:27 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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Which means you either believe that you "have nothing to hide" and could never be a target of such a raid, or you are part of the Enforcer class performing said raids.

If the first, you are naive and are due a rude awakening.

If the latter, the same...

20 posted on 12/08/2011 11:16:23 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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